Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 All the talk of being unable to sleep,, is the a side affect of the surgery??? I didn't know about this/ Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 Hi Regina, These stories are just too funny! I guess I must have a real tolerance to these drugs from my college days, if you know what I mean (remember, I'll be 50 in Sept.). ******************************** > I had taken the spleeping pill and he tried to wake me up and for a split second my eyes opened and I looked at him and started looking around the room and then asked him " where's your wife " . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 Hi Regina, These stories are just too funny! I guess I must have a real tolerance to these drugs from my college days, if you know what I mean (remember, I'll be 50 in Sept.). ******************************** > I had taken the spleeping pill and he tried to wake me up and for a split second my eyes opened and I looked at him and started looking around the room and then asked him " where's your wife " . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 Hi Regina, These stories are just too funny! I guess I must have a real tolerance to these drugs from my college days, if you know what I mean (remember, I'll be 50 in Sept.). ******************************** > I had taken the spleeping pill and he tried to wake me up and for a split second my eyes opened and I looked at him and started looking around the room and then asked him " where's your wife " . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 One more thing on the Ambien. I'm actually see that if anything, it works too well on WLS patients. One man from my support group took ambien and woke up in the ER....seems his wife couldn't wake him and called 911. And another night I took on (you'd think I would have learned by now) and woke DH up so he could put me to bed! I have no idea why I did that but boy was he ticked ) This is why I don't think taking 2 will work. It's not about falling asleep it's about staying asleep. Ambien or Sonata are not meds that will keep us asleep. Talk to your doctor about something else. Sue in Las Vegas Ps.....I do still have eyebrows, they don't quite look the same but I have em! Sleepless in NJ : I took Ambien a few month ago and it worked like a champ. Unfortunately it almost led to divorce court the first night I took it. I took one about 10-15 minutes before bed and when I got to bed, my husband was shall I say, amorous, I fell asleep on him. The next morning he told me that he didn't realize I had taken the spleeping pill and he tried to wake me up and for a split second my eyes opened and I looked at him and started looking around the room and then asked him " where's your wife " . He told me this I was hysterical. I assured him that I wasn't having an affair and if I were to have an affair that it certainly would not be with a married man. I have my morals, they may be skewed at times, but I still have them. LOL The next time I took it, a friend of mine called and I literally fell asleep on the phone with her. Knowing that I hadn't been feeling well, she panicked because she tried for 45 minutes to get back to me and there was no answer, so she called the police!!!! My husband had been downstairs in his dungeon working on his computer and had no idea what was going on until the banging on the front door, the cops with an ambulance. They were very nice when Tim explained what probably had happened and the EMT's finally woke me up (not an easy thing) and were satisfied that I did not over dose. Needless to say, I don't take the Ambien anymore. Can't imagine what would happen next. LOL Sorry that you're having such a tough time, but worked a bit too well with me. Hope you get some much needed sleep, I know how it is. Regards, Regina Block Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 One more thing on the Ambien. I'm actually see that if anything, it works too well on WLS patients. One man from my support group took ambien and woke up in the ER....seems his wife couldn't wake him and called 911. And another night I took on (you'd think I would have learned by now) and woke DH up so he could put me to bed! I have no idea why I did that but boy was he ticked ) This is why I don't think taking 2 will work. It's not about falling asleep it's about staying asleep. Ambien or Sonata are not meds that will keep us asleep. Talk to your doctor about something else. Sue in Las Vegas Ps.....I do still have eyebrows, they don't quite look the same but I have em! Sleepless in NJ : I took Ambien a few month ago and it worked like a champ. Unfortunately it almost led to divorce court the first night I took it. I took one about 10-15 minutes before bed and when I got to bed, my husband was shall I say, amorous, I fell asleep on him. The next morning he told me that he didn't realize I had taken the spleeping pill and he tried to wake me up and for a split second my eyes opened and I looked at him and started looking around the room and then asked him " where's your wife " . He told me this I was hysterical. I assured him that I wasn't having an affair and if I were to have an affair that it certainly would not be with a married man. I have my morals, they may be skewed at times, but I still have them. LOL The next time I took it, a friend of mine called and I literally fell asleep on the phone with her. Knowing that I hadn't been feeling well, she panicked because she tried for 45 minutes to get back to me and there was no answer, so she called the police!!!! My husband had been downstairs in his dungeon working on his computer and had no idea what was going on until the banging on the front door, the cops with an ambulance. They were very nice when Tim explained what probably had happened and the EMT's finally woke me up (not an easy thing) and were satisfied that I did not over dose. Needless to say, I don't take the Ambien anymore. Can't imagine what would happen next. LOL Sorry that you're having such a tough time, but worked a bit too well with me. Hope you get some much needed sleep, I know how it is. Regards, Regina Block Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 One more thing on the Ambien. I'm actually see that if anything, it works too well on WLS patients. One man from my support group took ambien and woke up in the ER....seems his wife couldn't wake him and called 911. And another night I took on (you'd think I would have learned by now) and woke DH up so he could put me to bed! I have no idea why I did that but boy was he ticked ) This is why I don't think taking 2 will work. It's not about falling asleep it's about staying asleep. Ambien or Sonata are not meds that will keep us asleep. Talk to your doctor about something else. Sue in Las Vegas Ps.....I do still have eyebrows, they don't quite look the same but I have em! Sleepless in NJ : I took Ambien a few month ago and it worked like a champ. Unfortunately it almost led to divorce court the first night I took it. I took one about 10-15 minutes before bed and when I got to bed, my husband was shall I say, amorous, I fell asleep on him. The next morning he told me that he didn't realize I had taken the spleeping pill and he tried to wake me up and for a split second my eyes opened and I looked at him and started looking around the room and then asked him " where's your wife " . He told me this I was hysterical. I assured him that I wasn't having an affair and if I were to have an affair that it certainly would not be with a married man. I have my morals, they may be skewed at times, but I still have them. LOL The next time I took it, a friend of mine called and I literally fell asleep on the phone with her. Knowing that I hadn't been feeling well, she panicked because she tried for 45 minutes to get back to me and there was no answer, so she called the police!!!! My husband had been downstairs in his dungeon working on his computer and had no idea what was going on until the banging on the front door, the cops with an ambulance. They were very nice when Tim explained what probably had happened and the EMT's finally woke me up (not an easy thing) and were satisfied that I did not over dose. Needless to say, I don't take the Ambien anymore. Can't imagine what would happen next. LOL Sorry that you're having such a tough time, but worked a bit too well with me. Hope you get some much needed sleep, I know how it is. Regards, Regina Block Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 I do find that melatonin, the 3mg variety will knock me out. But, if you use it regularly, it loses effectiveness. I have one every few nights. They're supposed to help reset your clock after jet-lag, etc. in Austin RNY April 1998 Sleepless in NJ > > > > Hi All, > > > > I could use some help ) > > > > I haven't been able to sleep well for months. It's probably due to > menopause > > (I'll be 50 in Sept.), and Tylenol PM just wasn't cutting it anymore. So, > I > > went to the doc, and got a prescription for Ambien 10mg. > > > > Well, after 2 nights of taking it, and waking up at 4:30 AM, I had an > > epiphany. I called the pharmacist, and asked him if he was familiar with > > gastric bypass surgery. He said, " Um, uh, well...yes. " What that really > > meant was I've heard of it, but don't know a thing about it. So, I > briefly > > explained about the bypassed intestine, and asked him if that's where it > was > > absorbed, and if that's why it wasn't working. He said, " Oh, no, it's > > absorbed in the stomach. The stomach acid breaks it down. " RED FLAG!!! > Ok, > > so I told him I don't have a full stomach with acid anymore. So, he tells > me > > to maybe try taking it with something acidic, like orange juice. OK... > > > > Next, I call my PCP (didn't tell him I spoke to the pharmacist), but did > > mention that maybe due to the bypass, I wasn't absorbing it well. So, he > > tells me to take 1 before bed, then if I wake up, to take another half > pill. > > > > > > So, I do both...I took it last night with OJ, then when I awoke promptly > at > > 4:30, took another half. I dozed a little, but not good sleep until 6:30, > > when I finally got up totally frustrated and just made my coffee. > Needless > > to say, I'm plain old exhausted. > > > > So, my question is have any of you taken sleeping pills with success, and > not > > the kind where you wake up with a hangover? I'm on the road a lot for > work, > > so feeling like a zombie is just not a good idea. > > > > Thanks for any input! > > > > Hugs, > > Sleepless & GROUCHY in NJ > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 I don't think it's as much a side effect of WLS as a side effect of the changes in our lives. In addition to going through the physical changes we go through a lot of emotional changes too. Many find the losing weight wasn't a cure-all for all their problems. Many of us are dealing with relationships....good ones and bad ones. Marriages are failing or people who were never looked at are now visible and sexy. Some are playing the dating game and scared to death, and others are just plain scared! As we become more physically able we tend to take on everything. We want to do it all. After years of having others do for us...we want to do for them. We never say no and want to be there to help anyone who asks...or even those who don't! Actually losing weight is easy. It's the other changes that we go through that are so darn hard. With groups like this and live support groups many of us can work through this. But what about folks who don't have a forum like this? IMHO, depression preop is very common and anxiety/depression postop is also very common. Hopefully we all have surgeons or pcp's who are experienced in things such as this and will help us. But if we don't tell them what is behind it all, then they just prescribe a sleeping pill. Let your doctor know why you can't sleep. If your worries and fears creep into your mind during the night, waking you up...tell your physician. If your mind plays the worries tape as you are trying to drop off to sleep...tell your doctor! My pcp has increased my elavil three times now. And I think maybe it's finally working. Sometimes I do have problems dropping off to sleep in which case I will take a Sonata (because I know it will work in 10-15 minutes on me) But generally, the elavil makes me drowsy enough that I fall asleep in about 15 minutes. When I do wake up during the night I just stagger to the bathroom. The tape doesn't play at all and I fall right back to sleep. Wow, guess I had a lot to say on this subject. Who knew!? Bottom line though...is to talk to your doctor. They can't fix it if you don't tell them. Sue Open RNY 10/26/98 From 500 lbs to 161 Dr Barry L Fisher www.stomachbypass.com Truncoplasty 8/9/01 Brachioplasty Thighplasty 4/3/02 Dr Weiland www.weilandgroup.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.mygastricbypass.com We are all angels with one wing - we need friends to help us fly. Re: Sleepless in NJ All the talk of being unable to sleep,, is the a side affect of the surgery??? I didn't know about this/ Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 I don't think it's as much a side effect of WLS as a side effect of the changes in our lives. In addition to going through the physical changes we go through a lot of emotional changes too. Many find the losing weight wasn't a cure-all for all their problems. Many of us are dealing with relationships....good ones and bad ones. Marriages are failing or people who were never looked at are now visible and sexy. Some are playing the dating game and scared to death, and others are just plain scared! As we become more physically able we tend to take on everything. We want to do it all. After years of having others do for us...we want to do for them. We never say no and want to be there to help anyone who asks...or even those who don't! Actually losing weight is easy. It's the other changes that we go through that are so darn hard. With groups like this and live support groups many of us can work through this. But what about folks who don't have a forum like this? IMHO, depression preop is very common and anxiety/depression postop is also very common. Hopefully we all have surgeons or pcp's who are experienced in things such as this and will help us. But if we don't tell them what is behind it all, then they just prescribe a sleeping pill. Let your doctor know why you can't sleep. If your worries and fears creep into your mind during the night, waking you up...tell your physician. If your mind plays the worries tape as you are trying to drop off to sleep...tell your doctor! My pcp has increased my elavil three times now. And I think maybe it's finally working. Sometimes I do have problems dropping off to sleep in which case I will take a Sonata (because I know it will work in 10-15 minutes on me) But generally, the elavil makes me drowsy enough that I fall asleep in about 15 minutes. When I do wake up during the night I just stagger to the bathroom. The tape doesn't play at all and I fall right back to sleep. Wow, guess I had a lot to say on this subject. Who knew!? Bottom line though...is to talk to your doctor. They can't fix it if you don't tell them. Sue Open RNY 10/26/98 From 500 lbs to 161 Dr Barry L Fisher www.stomachbypass.com Truncoplasty 8/9/01 Brachioplasty Thighplasty 4/3/02 Dr Weiland www.weilandgroup.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.mygastricbypass.com We are all angels with one wing - we need friends to help us fly. Re: Sleepless in NJ All the talk of being unable to sleep,, is the a side affect of the surgery??? I didn't know about this/ Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 I don't think it's as much a side effect of WLS as a side effect of the changes in our lives. In addition to going through the physical changes we go through a lot of emotional changes too. Many find the losing weight wasn't a cure-all for all their problems. Many of us are dealing with relationships....good ones and bad ones. Marriages are failing or people who were never looked at are now visible and sexy. Some are playing the dating game and scared to death, and others are just plain scared! As we become more physically able we tend to take on everything. We want to do it all. After years of having others do for us...we want to do for them. We never say no and want to be there to help anyone who asks...or even those who don't! Actually losing weight is easy. It's the other changes that we go through that are so darn hard. With groups like this and live support groups many of us can work through this. But what about folks who don't have a forum like this? IMHO, depression preop is very common and anxiety/depression postop is also very common. Hopefully we all have surgeons or pcp's who are experienced in things such as this and will help us. But if we don't tell them what is behind it all, then they just prescribe a sleeping pill. Let your doctor know why you can't sleep. If your worries and fears creep into your mind during the night, waking you up...tell your physician. If your mind plays the worries tape as you are trying to drop off to sleep...tell your doctor! My pcp has increased my elavil three times now. And I think maybe it's finally working. Sometimes I do have problems dropping off to sleep in which case I will take a Sonata (because I know it will work in 10-15 minutes on me) But generally, the elavil makes me drowsy enough that I fall asleep in about 15 minutes. When I do wake up during the night I just stagger to the bathroom. The tape doesn't play at all and I fall right back to sleep. Wow, guess I had a lot to say on this subject. Who knew!? Bottom line though...is to talk to your doctor. They can't fix it if you don't tell them. Sue Open RNY 10/26/98 From 500 lbs to 161 Dr Barry L Fisher www.stomachbypass.com Truncoplasty 8/9/01 Brachioplasty Thighplasty 4/3/02 Dr Weiland www.weilandgroup.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.mygastricbypass.com We are all angels with one wing - we need friends to help us fly. Re: Sleepless in NJ All the talk of being unable to sleep,, is the a side affect of the surgery??? I didn't know about this/ Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 for 6 hours. If you do not have the waking up problem, you will sleep on through the night, If you have the wake up thing, like depression, then at 6 hrs, BOING, your eyes are open & your head goes right back to dealing with the bills, answering emails, fixing the broken car, etc. Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Re: Re: Sleepless in NJ > I'm reading here that Ambien is a pill just for GETTING to sleep, not for > STAYING asleep, but now I'm confused because a few mins. ago I saw an ad on > tv for it and it specifically said orally and in writing on the ad " Helps you > get to sleep, helps you stay asleep " > > Dianne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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