Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 In a message dated 8/17/2002 9:45:13 AM Central Standard Time, cherryontop3@... writes: > I seem to remember someone posting about a relatively new drug on the > market that is not stomach damaging. Actually, I have a prescription currently from the arthritis Doc for Bextra. I think this may be the one you are describing. I took it for a week or so and regained ability to kink and unkink in the middle from a right hip that pained me worse than my eldest daughter. I was so very careful to tell him about the pouch, NSAIDs, etc, but he was aware and wanted me to take it with food, and later told me not to take it daily but as I needed it. The general guides say that it can be taken with or without food, BUT I am taking no chances. I take it only as needed and most of the time I just decide the pain is not all that bad. It still falls in the class for NSAIDs however. One interesting thing he did tell me is that if anyone ever advises me to take something stronger, namely Vioxx (sp?) to never, ever, ever do that. Just said that my pouch and it would not mate at all. But the again, I have never been a pill taker in my life (until I ran across ) and the string of cardiologists who haunt my life these days so overmedicating is one issue I don't seem to have. Just one, whew! Without getting into great detail, I will just say that nitrates were never taken by Don or Cassanova. Yanno? Somethings might not be worth medicating oneself over! Dan Slone Surgery 5/2/2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 , my husband was prescribed Bextra as an anti-inflammatory for arthritis. It seems to be working fairly well and was recommended by the orthopedist at the recommendation of our surgeon. The insurance company did require an authorization by the physician as to why this particular medicine was necessary as opposed to others because of the expense. However, after they received the authorization it was approved without a hitch. in Akron " A. " wrote:I've just finished a short course of Naproxin for back pain related to a touch of arthritis & very slight degeneration. I can't even begin to tell you how CAREFULLY I took this because of the stomach damage I know is very possible. I'm now in a wait and see mode as to whether the Naproxin was effective in eliminating the inflamation. If not I presume I will need to take something long-term to deal with the pain. I don't see NSAID's as an option. So the obvious question is what are my options? I seem to remember someone posting about a relatively new drug on the market that is not stomach damaging. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! I want to know what the viable alternatives are before I see my doctor. ===== A. in Indy SRVG 4-11-00 Dr. Huse St. 's/Carmel,IN Pre-Op: 278 lbs. BMI 47 *As of 4-23-02: 150 lbs. BMI 25.5* Breast Reduction & Abdominoplasty 4-4-02 Dr. Brad Thurston ~see me at http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=Auch952842167 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 , my husband was prescribed Bextra as an anti-inflammatory for arthritis. It seems to be working fairly well and was recommended by the orthopedist at the recommendation of our surgeon. The insurance company did require an authorization by the physician as to why this particular medicine was necessary as opposed to others because of the expense. However, after they received the authorization it was approved without a hitch. in Akron " A. " wrote:I've just finished a short course of Naproxin for back pain related to a touch of arthritis & very slight degeneration. I can't even begin to tell you how CAREFULLY I took this because of the stomach damage I know is very possible. I'm now in a wait and see mode as to whether the Naproxin was effective in eliminating the inflamation. If not I presume I will need to take something long-term to deal with the pain. I don't see NSAID's as an option. So the obvious question is what are my options? I seem to remember someone posting about a relatively new drug on the market that is not stomach damaging. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! I want to know what the viable alternatives are before I see my doctor. ===== A. in Indy SRVG 4-11-00 Dr. Huse St. 's/Carmel,IN Pre-Op: 278 lbs. BMI 47 *As of 4-23-02: 150 lbs. BMI 25.5* Breast Reduction & Abdominoplasty 4-4-02 Dr. Brad Thurston ~see me at http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=Auch952842167 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 , my husband was prescribed Bextra as an anti-inflammatory for arthritis. It seems to be working fairly well and was recommended by the orthopedist at the recommendation of our surgeon. The insurance company did require an authorization by the physician as to why this particular medicine was necessary as opposed to others because of the expense. However, after they received the authorization it was approved without a hitch. in Akron " A. " wrote:I've just finished a short course of Naproxin for back pain related to a touch of arthritis & very slight degeneration. I can't even begin to tell you how CAREFULLY I took this because of the stomach damage I know is very possible. I'm now in a wait and see mode as to whether the Naproxin was effective in eliminating the inflamation. If not I presume I will need to take something long-term to deal with the pain. I don't see NSAID's as an option. So the obvious question is what are my options? I seem to remember someone posting about a relatively new drug on the market that is not stomach damaging. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! I want to know what the viable alternatives are before I see my doctor. ===== A. in Indy SRVG 4-11-00 Dr. Huse St. 's/Carmel,IN Pre-Op: 278 lbs. BMI 47 *As of 4-23-02: 150 lbs. BMI 25.5* Breast Reduction & Abdominoplasty 4-4-02 Dr. Brad Thurston ~see me at http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=Auch952842167 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 My bone doc gave me Ultram- a non-narcotic pain reliever. GB doc okayed it. Didn't do much for me but several people that I've talked to raved about it. Ask your doc. Alice The Loon RNY 12/28/00 > I've just finished a short course of Naproxin for back pain > related to a touch of arthritis & very slight degeneration. > I can't even begin to tell you how CAREFULLY I took this > because of the stomach damage I know is very possible. I'm > now in a wait and see mode as to whether the Naproxin was > effective in eliminating the inflamation. If not I presume > I will need to take something long-term to deal with the > pain. I don't see NSAID's as an option. So the obvious > question is what are my options? I seem to remember someone > posting about a relatively new drug on the market that is > not stomach damaging. Any suggestions would be greatly > appreciated! I want to know what the viable alternatives > are before I see my doctor. > > ===== > A. in Indy > SRVG 4-11-00 > Dr. Huse St. 's/Carmel,IN > Pre-Op: 278 lbs. BMI 47 *As of 4-23-02: 150 lbs. BMI 25.5* > Breast Reduction & Abdominoplasty 4-4-02 Dr. Brad Thurston > > ~see me at http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml? N=Auch952842167 > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 That's be Vioxx or Celebrex. Please E (One-L) for this. You know how everyone has their HoT Button? These are hers! Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Alternatives to NSAID's > I've just finished a short course of Naproxin for back pain > related to a touch of arthritis & very slight degeneration. > I can't even begin to tell you how CAREFULLY I took this > because of the stomach damage I know is very possible. I'm > now in a wait and see mode as to whether the Naproxin was > effective in eliminating the inflamation. If not I presume > I will need to take something long-term to deal with the > pain. I don't see NSAID's as an option. So the obvious > question is what are my options? I seem to remember someone > posting about a relatively new drug on the market that is > not stomach damaging. Any suggestions would be greatly > appreciated! I want to know what the viable alternatives > are before I see my doctor. > > ===== > A. in Indy > SRVG 4-11-00 > Dr. Huse St. 's/Carmel,IN > Pre-Op: 278 lbs. BMI 47 *As of 4-23-02: 150 lbs. BMI 25.5* > Breast Reduction & Abdominoplasty 4-4-02 Dr. Brad Thurston > > ~see me at http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=Auch952842167 > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 That's be Vioxx or Celebrex. Please E (One-L) for this. You know how everyone has their HoT Button? These are hers! Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Alternatives to NSAID's > I've just finished a short course of Naproxin for back pain > related to a touch of arthritis & very slight degeneration. > I can't even begin to tell you how CAREFULLY I took this > because of the stomach damage I know is very possible. I'm > now in a wait and see mode as to whether the Naproxin was > effective in eliminating the inflamation. If not I presume > I will need to take something long-term to deal with the > pain. I don't see NSAID's as an option. So the obvious > question is what are my options? I seem to remember someone > posting about a relatively new drug on the market that is > not stomach damaging. Any suggestions would be greatly > appreciated! I want to know what the viable alternatives > are before I see my doctor. > > ===== > A. in Indy > SRVG 4-11-00 > Dr. Huse St. 's/Carmel,IN > Pre-Op: 278 lbs. BMI 47 *As of 4-23-02: 150 lbs. BMI 25.5* > Breast Reduction & Abdominoplasty 4-4-02 Dr. Brad Thurston > > ~see me at http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=Auch952842167 > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 I can't remember the name of this stuff...I believe it starts with a B? I was kind of excited at the prospect as I have osteoarthritis pretty bad in my knees, back and hands. My PCP said that she wouldn't recommend it for me. Still might cause ulcers. She told me why...but for the life of me, my disappointed mind stopped listening after she went negative. I will try to get a better explanation for this next time. She usually goes along with whatever I want...but when she bucks something..there's usually a good reason...and that day..I just wasn't into the particulars. Sorry...will do better next time. =/ Regards~ Jacque > I've just finished a short course of Naproxin for back pain > related to a touch of arthritis & very slight degeneration. > I can't even begin to tell you how CAREFULLY I took this > because of the stomach damage I know is very possible. I'm > now in a wait and see mode as to whether the Naproxin was > effective in eliminating the inflamation. If not I presume > I will need to take something long-term to deal with the > pain. I don't see NSAID's as an option. So the obvious > question is what are my options? I seem to remember someone > posting about a relatively new drug on the market that is > not stomach damaging. Any suggestions would be greatly > appreciated! I want to know what the viable alternatives > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 I can't remember the name of this stuff...I believe it starts with a B? I was kind of excited at the prospect as I have osteoarthritis pretty bad in my knees, back and hands. My PCP said that she wouldn't recommend it for me. Still might cause ulcers. She told me why...but for the life of me, my disappointed mind stopped listening after she went negative. I will try to get a better explanation for this next time. She usually goes along with whatever I want...but when she bucks something..there's usually a good reason...and that day..I just wasn't into the particulars. Sorry...will do better next time. =/ Regards~ Jacque > I've just finished a short course of Naproxin for back pain > related to a touch of arthritis & very slight degeneration. > I can't even begin to tell you how CAREFULLY I took this > because of the stomach damage I know is very possible. I'm > now in a wait and see mode as to whether the Naproxin was > effective in eliminating the inflamation. If not I presume > I will need to take something long-term to deal with the > pain. I don't see NSAID's as an option. So the obvious > question is what are my options? I seem to remember someone > posting about a relatively new drug on the market that is > not stomach damaging. Any suggestions would be greatly > appreciated! I want to know what the viable alternatives > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 I can't remember the name of this stuff...I believe it starts with a B? I was kind of excited at the prospect as I have osteoarthritis pretty bad in my knees, back and hands. My PCP said that she wouldn't recommend it for me. Still might cause ulcers. She told me why...but for the life of me, my disappointed mind stopped listening after she went negative. I will try to get a better explanation for this next time. She usually goes along with whatever I want...but when she bucks something..there's usually a good reason...and that day..I just wasn't into the particulars. Sorry...will do better next time. =/ Regards~ Jacque > I've just finished a short course of Naproxin for back pain > related to a touch of arthritis & very slight degeneration. > I can't even begin to tell you how CAREFULLY I took this > because of the stomach damage I know is very possible. I'm > now in a wait and see mode as to whether the Naproxin was > effective in eliminating the inflamation. If not I presume > I will need to take something long-term to deal with the > pain. I don't see NSAID's as an option. So the obvious > question is what are my options? I seem to remember someone > posting about a relatively new drug on the market that is > not stomach damaging. Any suggestions would be greatly > appreciated! I want to know what the viable alternatives > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 Good idea...Ultram may be worth a try at least. I have heard some people are helped by it. It did nothing for my pain...but my arthritis is pretty severe, along with fibromyalgia that is constant. So I take a narcotic pain medication on a daily basis and have for many years. No, I'm not an addict, I just manage my pain. I've never exceeded the doseage the doc has me on, in fact, I am a full bottle ahead on the stuff, so I have had my better days. Lately, my days have not been so good. So I have been on my full doseage. I also take muscle relaxants too. I hate it, but it is a fact of life with me. Always looking for something else to change to like the Bextra...but that was not to be. Guess to have managed my pain, I would have burned my pouch up. Sigh. Regards~ Jacque > My bone doc gave me Ultram- a non-narcotic pain reliever. GB doc > okayed it. Didn't do much for me but several people that I've talked > to raved about it. Ask your doc. > Alice > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 OK, I am WAYYYYY behind on reading e-mails and if the topic of NSAIDS has died, I apologize. HOWEVER, I do feel that it is critical and important enough to address it even if I am late. Bextra is the newest, next generation of NSAIDS. It is simply an anti-inflammatory with no compound to aid in the protection of our GI systems. I want to help everyone understand the reason NSAIDS are dangerous for us. Contrary to popular belief, it is not just that they are " pouch burners " as the industry wants us to believe. It goes much deeper than that. According to an article published in the June 1999 New England Journal of Medicine, NSAIDS, once absorbed into the blood stream cause a chain of chemical reactions that affect the prostaglandins and this in turn reduces the production of mucus in the GI system. The mucus is what lines our GI system and protects our pouch and intestines from damage. If the mucus production is reduced, this would allow ANYTHING, including eating something with too sharp of an edge or foods that are extremely spicy, to inadvertently begin a marginal ulcer. The best answer is to avoid NSAIDS at all cost. Taking an H2 receptor drug such as Prilosec, Prevacid or Nexium is only a band-aid and no guarantee that it will protect you. If you are desperate to try an NSAID, my recommendation would be Arthrotec. It is an NSAID with a prostaglandin compound in it that tries to prevent the chemical chain of events I was speaking of in the above paragraph. There are still no guarantees. You are at risk for marginal ulcers any time you take an anti-inflammatory medication. Ultram is a mild narcotic and can be habit forming, so I would not recommend more than a six week course of it at any one time. Michele (with one L) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 Thanks so much Michele for that info! I'm going to print it up and take it with me when I see my doc. I have to admit it's a bit depressing though. I was also talking to a friend of mine who works for a chiropractor, and she mentioned that anti-inflamatories could also be damaging to your liver. All in all not what I wanted to hear. I think a long thorough talk with my doc is needed! ===== A. in Indy SRVG 4-11-00 Dr. Huse St. 's/Carmel,IN Pre-Op: 278 lbs. BMI 47 *As of 4-23-02: 150 lbs. BMI 25.5* Breast Reduction & Abdominoplasty 4-4-02 Dr. Brad Thurston ~see me at http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=Auch952842167 __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 I'm lucky that since my WL I haven't needed the Vioxx or the Celebrex I used to take prior to surgery. Both were hard on my stomach even back then. I've heard a lot of reports about those drugs not being very good for your heart though. Dianne B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 I'm lucky that since my WL I haven't needed the Vioxx or the Celebrex I used to take prior to surgery. Both were hard on my stomach even back then. I've heard a lot of reports about those drugs not being very good for your heart though. Dianne B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 I'm lucky that since my WL I haven't needed the Vioxx or the Celebrex I used to take prior to surgery. Both were hard on my stomach even back then. I've heard a lot of reports about those drugs not being very good for your heart though. Dianne B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 I'm not really educated on the difference between the -II inhibitors vs. NSAIDS, but I am taking Vioxx, 25m. one tablet daily with breakfast. I was taking them for a year before surgery, and continued, with doctor's approval, about 2 months after surgery. I am 18 months out now, and have had NO problems with my pouch whatsoever. The Vioxx definitely helps control my arthritis pain. Michele (with one L) tells me problems have been known to happen unexpectedly after a year or so. Is anyone else out there taking Vioxx? Any problems? Thanks. RE: Alternatives to NSAID's OK, I am WAYYYYY behind on reading e-mails and if the topic of NSAIDS has died, I apologize. HOWEVER, I do feel that it is critical and important enough to address it even if I am late. Bextra is the newest, next generation of NSAIDS. It is simply an anti-inflammatory with no compound to aid in the protection of our GI systems. I want to help everyone understand the reason NSAIDS are dangerous for us. Contrary to popular belief, it is not just that they are " pouch burners " as the industry wants us to believe. It goes much deeper than that. According to an article published in the June 1999 New England Journal of Medicine, NSAIDS, once absorbed into the blood stream cause a chain of chemical reactions that affect the prostaglandins and this in turn reduces the production of mucus in the GI system. The mucus is what lines our GI system and protects our pouch and intestines from damage. If the mucus production is reduced, this would allow ANYTHING, including eating something with too sharp of an edge or foods that are extremely spicy, to inadvertently begin a marginal ulcer. The best answer is to avoid NSAIDS at all cost. Taking an H2 receptor drug such as Prilosec, Prevacid or Nexium is only a band-aid and no guarantee that it will protect you. If you are desperate to try an NSAID, my recommendation would be Arthrotec. It is an NSAID with a prostaglandin compound in it that tries to prevent the chemical chain of events I was speaking of in the above paragraph. There are still no guarantees. You are at risk for marginal ulcers any time you take an anti-inflammatory medication. Ultram is a mild narcotic and can be habit forming, so I would not recommend more than a six week course of it at any one time. Michele (with one L) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 I'm not really educated on the difference between the -II inhibitors vs. NSAIDS, but I am taking Vioxx, 25m. one tablet daily with breakfast. I was taking them for a year before surgery, and continued, with doctor's approval, about 2 months after surgery. I am 18 months out now, and have had NO problems with my pouch whatsoever. The Vioxx definitely helps control my arthritis pain. Michele (with one L) tells me problems have been known to happen unexpectedly after a year or so. Is anyone else out there taking Vioxx? Any problems? Thanks. RE: Alternatives to NSAID's OK, I am WAYYYYY behind on reading e-mails and if the topic of NSAIDS has died, I apologize. HOWEVER, I do feel that it is critical and important enough to address it even if I am late. Bextra is the newest, next generation of NSAIDS. It is simply an anti-inflammatory with no compound to aid in the protection of our GI systems. I want to help everyone understand the reason NSAIDS are dangerous for us. Contrary to popular belief, it is not just that they are " pouch burners " as the industry wants us to believe. It goes much deeper than that. According to an article published in the June 1999 New England Journal of Medicine, NSAIDS, once absorbed into the blood stream cause a chain of chemical reactions that affect the prostaglandins and this in turn reduces the production of mucus in the GI system. The mucus is what lines our GI system and protects our pouch and intestines from damage. If the mucus production is reduced, this would allow ANYTHING, including eating something with too sharp of an edge or foods that are extremely spicy, to inadvertently begin a marginal ulcer. The best answer is to avoid NSAIDS at all cost. Taking an H2 receptor drug such as Prilosec, Prevacid or Nexium is only a band-aid and no guarantee that it will protect you. If you are desperate to try an NSAID, my recommendation would be Arthrotec. It is an NSAID with a prostaglandin compound in it that tries to prevent the chemical chain of events I was speaking of in the above paragraph. There are still no guarantees. You are at risk for marginal ulcers any time you take an anti-inflammatory medication. Ultram is a mild narcotic and can be habit forming, so I would not recommend more than a six week course of it at any one time. Michele (with one L) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 I'm not really educated on the difference between the -II inhibitors vs. NSAIDS, but I am taking Vioxx, 25m. one tablet daily with breakfast. I was taking them for a year before surgery, and continued, with doctor's approval, about 2 months after surgery. I am 18 months out now, and have had NO problems with my pouch whatsoever. The Vioxx definitely helps control my arthritis pain. Michele (with one L) tells me problems have been known to happen unexpectedly after a year or so. Is anyone else out there taking Vioxx? Any problems? Thanks. RE: Alternatives to NSAID's OK, I am WAYYYYY behind on reading e-mails and if the topic of NSAIDS has died, I apologize. HOWEVER, I do feel that it is critical and important enough to address it even if I am late. Bextra is the newest, next generation of NSAIDS. It is simply an anti-inflammatory with no compound to aid in the protection of our GI systems. I want to help everyone understand the reason NSAIDS are dangerous for us. Contrary to popular belief, it is not just that they are " pouch burners " as the industry wants us to believe. It goes much deeper than that. According to an article published in the June 1999 New England Journal of Medicine, NSAIDS, once absorbed into the blood stream cause a chain of chemical reactions that affect the prostaglandins and this in turn reduces the production of mucus in the GI system. The mucus is what lines our GI system and protects our pouch and intestines from damage. If the mucus production is reduced, this would allow ANYTHING, including eating something with too sharp of an edge or foods that are extremely spicy, to inadvertently begin a marginal ulcer. The best answer is to avoid NSAIDS at all cost. Taking an H2 receptor drug such as Prilosec, Prevacid or Nexium is only a band-aid and no guarantee that it will protect you. If you are desperate to try an NSAID, my recommendation would be Arthrotec. It is an NSAID with a prostaglandin compound in it that tries to prevent the chemical chain of events I was speaking of in the above paragraph. There are still no guarantees. You are at risk for marginal ulcers any time you take an anti-inflammatory medication. Ultram is a mild narcotic and can be habit forming, so I would not recommend more than a six week course of it at any one time. Michele (with one L) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 I know 2 who had gastric bleed (no pain, no warning) with Vioxx. I did Celebrex, for a few weeks, cost me 4 months to heal the mess I made. At least mine hurt. I'm scared of 'em. Shoot, I'm such a wimp, I was scared of 'em before One L told me to be scared of 'em! Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com RE: Alternatives to NSAID's > > > OK, I am WAYYYYY behind on reading e-mails and if the topic of NSAIDS > has died, I apologize. HOWEVER, I do feel that it is critical and > important enough to address it even if I am late. > > Bextra is the newest, next generation of NSAIDS. It is simply an > anti-inflammatory with no compound to aid in the protection of our GI > systems. > > I want to help everyone understand the reason NSAIDS are dangerous for > us. Contrary to popular belief, it is not just that they are " pouch > burners " as the industry wants us to believe. It goes much deeper than > that. According to an article published in the June 1999 New England > Journal of Medicine, NSAIDS, once absorbed into the blood stream cause a > chain of chemical reactions that affect the prostaglandins and this in > turn reduces the production of mucus in the GI system. The mucus is what > lines our GI system and protects our pouch and intestines from damage. > If the mucus production is reduced, this would allow ANYTHING, including > eating something with too sharp of an edge or foods that are extremely > spicy, to inadvertently begin a marginal ulcer. The best answer is to > avoid NSAIDS at all cost. Taking an H2 receptor drug such as Prilosec, > Prevacid or Nexium is only a band-aid and no guarantee that it will > protect you. > > If you are desperate to try an NSAID, my recommendation would be > Arthrotec. It is an NSAID with a prostaglandin compound in it that tries > to prevent the chemical chain of events I was speaking of in the above > paragraph. There are still no guarantees. You are at risk for marginal > ulcers any time you take an anti-inflammatory medication. > > Ultram is a mild narcotic and can be habit forming, so I would not > recommend more than a six week course of it at any one time. > > Michele (with one L) > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 I know 2 who had gastric bleed (no pain, no warning) with Vioxx. I did Celebrex, for a few weeks, cost me 4 months to heal the mess I made. At least mine hurt. I'm scared of 'em. Shoot, I'm such a wimp, I was scared of 'em before One L told me to be scared of 'em! Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com RE: Alternatives to NSAID's > > > OK, I am WAYYYYY behind on reading e-mails and if the topic of NSAIDS > has died, I apologize. HOWEVER, I do feel that it is critical and > important enough to address it even if I am late. > > Bextra is the newest, next generation of NSAIDS. It is simply an > anti-inflammatory with no compound to aid in the protection of our GI > systems. > > I want to help everyone understand the reason NSAIDS are dangerous for > us. Contrary to popular belief, it is not just that they are " pouch > burners " as the industry wants us to believe. It goes much deeper than > that. According to an article published in the June 1999 New England > Journal of Medicine, NSAIDS, once absorbed into the blood stream cause a > chain of chemical reactions that affect the prostaglandins and this in > turn reduces the production of mucus in the GI system. The mucus is what > lines our GI system and protects our pouch and intestines from damage. > If the mucus production is reduced, this would allow ANYTHING, including > eating something with too sharp of an edge or foods that are extremely > spicy, to inadvertently begin a marginal ulcer. The best answer is to > avoid NSAIDS at all cost. Taking an H2 receptor drug such as Prilosec, > Prevacid or Nexium is only a band-aid and no guarantee that it will > protect you. > > If you are desperate to try an NSAID, my recommendation would be > Arthrotec. It is an NSAID with a prostaglandin compound in it that tries > to prevent the chemical chain of events I was speaking of in the above > paragraph. There are still no guarantees. You are at risk for marginal > ulcers any time you take an anti-inflammatory medication. > > Ultram is a mild narcotic and can be habit forming, so I would not > recommend more than a six week course of it at any one time. > > Michele (with one L) > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 I know 2 who had gastric bleed (no pain, no warning) with Vioxx. I did Celebrex, for a few weeks, cost me 4 months to heal the mess I made. At least mine hurt. I'm scared of 'em. Shoot, I'm such a wimp, I was scared of 'em before One L told me to be scared of 'em! Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com RE: Alternatives to NSAID's > > > OK, I am WAYYYYY behind on reading e-mails and if the topic of NSAIDS > has died, I apologize. HOWEVER, I do feel that it is critical and > important enough to address it even if I am late. > > Bextra is the newest, next generation of NSAIDS. It is simply an > anti-inflammatory with no compound to aid in the protection of our GI > systems. > > I want to help everyone understand the reason NSAIDS are dangerous for > us. Contrary to popular belief, it is not just that they are " pouch > burners " as the industry wants us to believe. It goes much deeper than > that. According to an article published in the June 1999 New England > Journal of Medicine, NSAIDS, once absorbed into the blood stream cause a > chain of chemical reactions that affect the prostaglandins and this in > turn reduces the production of mucus in the GI system. The mucus is what > lines our GI system and protects our pouch and intestines from damage. > If the mucus production is reduced, this would allow ANYTHING, including > eating something with too sharp of an edge or foods that are extremely > spicy, to inadvertently begin a marginal ulcer. The best answer is to > avoid NSAIDS at all cost. Taking an H2 receptor drug such as Prilosec, > Prevacid or Nexium is only a band-aid and no guarantee that it will > protect you. > > If you are desperate to try an NSAID, my recommendation would be > Arthrotec. It is an NSAID with a prostaglandin compound in it that tries > to prevent the chemical chain of events I was speaking of in the above > paragraph. There are still no guarantees. You are at risk for marginal > ulcers any time you take an anti-inflammatory medication. > > Ultram is a mild narcotic and can be habit forming, so I would not > recommend more than a six week course of it at any one time. > > Michele (with one L) > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 I developed an ulcer taking Excedrin once a day for two weeks! No pain or symptoms of the ulcer. Found by accident on an upper G.I. My PCP put me on 20 mg. Pepcid (rx) and the ulcer healed within a month. I'm a lot more careful now. in Akron Vitalady wrote:I know 2 who had gastric bleed (no pain, no warning) with Vioxx. I did Celebrex, for a few weeks, cost me 4 months to heal the mess I made. At least mine hurt. I'm scared of 'em. Shoot, I'm such a wimp, I was scared of 'em before One L told me to be scared of 'em! Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com RE: Alternatives to NSAID's > > > OK, I am WAYYYYY behind on reading e-mails and if the topic of NSAIDS > has died, I apologize. HOWEVER, I do feel that it is critical and > important enough to address it even if I am late. > > Bextra is the newest, next generation of NSAIDS. It is simply an > anti-inflammatory with no compound to aid in the protection of our GI > systems. > > I want to help everyone understand the reason NSAIDS are dangerous for > us. Contrary to popular belief, it is not just that they are " pouch > burners " as the industry wants us to believe. It goes much deeper than > that. According to an article published in the June 1999 New England > Journal of Medicine, NSAIDS, once absorbed into the blood stream cause a > chain of chemical reactions that affect the prostaglandins and this in > turn reduces the production of mucus in the GI system. The mucus is what > lines our GI system and protects our pouch and intestines from damage. > If the mucus production is reduced, this would allow ANYTHING, including > eating something with too sharp of an edge or foods that are extremely > spicy, to inadvertently begin a marginal ulcer. The best answer is to > avoid NSAIDS at all cost. Taking an H2 receptor drug such as Prilosec, > Prevacid or Nexium is only a band-aid and no guarantee that it will > protect you. > > If you are desperate to try an NSAID, my recommendation would be > Arthrotec. It is an NSAID with a prostaglandin compound in it that tries > to prevent the chemical chain of events I was speaking of in the above > paragraph. There are still no guarantees. You are at risk for marginal > ulcers any time you take an anti-inflammatory medication. > > Ultram is a mild narcotic and can be habit forming, so I would not > recommend more than a six week course of it at any one time. > > Michele (with one L) > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 My surgeon gives the OK on Vioxx and Celebrex. Helene > > From: DianneOSU@... > Date: 2002/08/18 Sun PM 07:49:08 CDT > To: graduate-ossg > Subject: Re: Alternatives to NSAID's > > I'm lucky that since my WL I haven't needed the Vioxx or the Celebrex I used > to take prior to surgery. Both were hard on my stomach even back then. I've > heard a lot of reports about those drugs not being very good for your heart > though. > > Dianne B. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 My surgeon gives the OK on Vioxx and Celebrex. Helene > > From: DianneOSU@... > Date: 2002/08/18 Sun PM 07:49:08 CDT > To: graduate-ossg > Subject: Re: Alternatives to NSAID's > > I'm lucky that since my WL I haven't needed the Vioxx or the Celebrex I used > to take prior to surgery. Both were hard on my stomach even back then. I've > heard a lot of reports about those drugs not being very good for your heart > though. > > Dianne B. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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