Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 WELL, I work on a database that shows different variations of drugs and today I just happened to notice that Aspirin comes in SUPPOSITORIES! SO my next question IS... can WE take it in suppository form instead of orally, and if not, then why? I never thought of that end, wonder if any of the other stuff could be taken that way??? hugzzz flo RE: Alternatives to NSAID's > > > > > > OK, I am WAYYYYY behind on reading e-mails and if the topic of NSAIDS > > has died, I apologize. HOWEVER, I do feel that it is critical and > > important enough to address it even if I am late. > > > > Bextra is the newest, next generation of NSAIDS. It is simply an > > anti-inflammatory with no compound to aid in the protection of our GI > > systems. > > > > I want to help everyone understand the reason NSAIDS are dangerous for > > us. Contrary to popular belief, it is not just that they are " pouch > > burners " as the industry wants us to believe. It goes much deeper than > > that. According to an article published in the June 1999 New England > > Journal of Medicine, NSAIDS, once absorbed into the blood stream cause a > > chain of chemical reactions that affect the prostaglandins and this in > > turn reduces the production of mucus in the GI system. The mucus is what > > lines our GI system and protects our pouch and intestines from damage. > > If the mucus production is reduced, this would allow ANYTHING, including > > eating something with too sharp of an edge or foods that are extremely > > spicy, to inadvertently begin a marginal ulcer. The best answer is to > > avoid NSAIDS at all cost. Taking an H2 receptor drug such as Prilosec, > > Prevacid or Nexium is only a band-aid and no guarantee that it will > > protect you. > > > > If you are desperate to try an NSAID, my recommendation would be > > Arthrotec. It is an NSAID with a prostaglandin compound in it that tries > > to prevent the chemical chain of events I was speaking of in the above > > paragraph. There are still no guarantees. You are at risk for marginal > > ulcers any time you take an anti-inflammatory medication. > > > > Ultram is a mild narcotic and can be habit forming, so I would not > > recommend more than a six week course of it at any one time. > > > > Michele (with one L) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 No protein enemas yet? Anonymous ----- Original Message ----- > WELL, I work on a database that shows different variations of drugs and > today I just happened to notice that Aspirin comes in SUPPOSITORIES! > hugzzz > flo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 In a message dated 08/20/2002 12:27:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, vitalady@... writes: > > > > Been thinking about this. If aspirin enters the blood stream, then, does > it > still do the damage like Vioxx & Celebrex....? I know that I had not been > able to take aspirin or ibuprofen for years, but was using a ketoprophen > cream on a bad wrist. Even with it on my SKIN, it came with a warning that > it might cause gastric distress! Wow, huh? > That is really amazing.. that absorption of aspirin through the skin could cause gastric distress.. Since I seem prone to ulcer development, I think I will avoid all aspirin containing products and nsaids.. and anything questionable.. Hugs from GA open RNY 12/12/00 Revision 04/18/01 Revision 02/07/02 St wt.... 392 Cw........198 Wt loss..-194 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 In a message dated 08/20/2002 12:27:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, vitalady@... writes: > > > > Been thinking about this. If aspirin enters the blood stream, then, does > it > still do the damage like Vioxx & Celebrex....? I know that I had not been > able to take aspirin or ibuprofen for years, but was using a ketoprophen > cream on a bad wrist. Even with it on my SKIN, it came with a warning that > it might cause gastric distress! Wow, huh? > That is really amazing.. that absorption of aspirin through the skin could cause gastric distress.. Since I seem prone to ulcer development, I think I will avoid all aspirin containing products and nsaids.. and anything questionable.. Hugs from GA open RNY 12/12/00 Revision 04/18/01 Revision 02/07/02 St wt.... 392 Cw........198 Wt loss..-194 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 But.........if can burn out our pouches what kind of damage will it do to the 'nother end? Alice The Loon RNY 12/28/00 > WELL, I work on a database that shows different variations of drugs and > today I just happened to notice that Aspirin comes in SUPPOSITORIES! SO my > next question IS... can WE take it in suppository form instead of orally, > and if not, then why? I never thought of that end, wonder if any of the > other stuff could be taken that way??? > > hugzzz > flo .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 But.........if can burn out our pouches what kind of damage will it do to the 'nother end? Alice The Loon RNY 12/28/00 > WELL, I work on a database that shows different variations of drugs and > today I just happened to notice that Aspirin comes in SUPPOSITORIES! SO my > next question IS... can WE take it in suppository form instead of orally, > and if not, then why? I never thought of that end, wonder if any of the > other stuff could be taken that way??? > > hugzzz > flo .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 Been thinking about this. If aspirin enters the blood stream, then, does it still do the damage like Vioxx & Celebrex....? I know that I had not been able to take aspirin or ibuprofen for years, but was using a ketoprophen cream on a bad wrist. Even with it on my SKIN, it came with a warning that it might cause gastric distress! Wow, huh? Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com RE: Alternatives to NSAID's > > > > > > > > > OK, I am WAYYYYY behind on reading e-mails and if the topic of NSAIDS > > > has died, I apologize. HOWEVER, I do feel that it is critical and > > > important enough to address it even if I am late. > > > > > > Bextra is the newest, next generation of NSAIDS. It is simply an > > > anti-inflammatory with no compound to aid in the protection of our GI > > > systems. > > > > > > I want to help everyone understand the reason NSAIDS are dangerous for > > > us. Contrary to popular belief, it is not just that they are " pouch > > > burners " as the industry wants us to believe. It goes much deeper than > > > that. According to an article published in the June 1999 New England > > > Journal of Medicine, NSAIDS, once absorbed into the blood stream cause a > > > chain of chemical reactions that affect the prostaglandins and this in > > > turn reduces the production of mucus in the GI system. The mucus is what > > > lines our GI system and protects our pouch and intestines from damage. > > > If the mucus production is reduced, this would allow ANYTHING, including > > > eating something with too sharp of an edge or foods that are extremely > > > spicy, to inadvertently begin a marginal ulcer. The best answer is to > > > avoid NSAIDS at all cost. Taking an H2 receptor drug such as Prilosec, > > > Prevacid or Nexium is only a band-aid and no guarantee that it will > > > protect you. > > > > > > If you are desperate to try an NSAID, my recommendation would be > > > Arthrotec. It is an NSAID with a prostaglandin compound in it that tries > > > to prevent the chemical chain of events I was speaking of in the above > > > paragraph. There are still no guarantees. You are at risk for marginal > > > ulcers any time you take an anti-inflammatory medication. > > > > > > Ultram is a mild narcotic and can be habit forming, so I would not > > > recommend more than a six week course of it at any one time. > > > > > > Michele (with one L) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 Been thinking about this. If aspirin enters the blood stream, then, does it still do the damage like Vioxx & Celebrex....? I know that I had not been able to take aspirin or ibuprofen for years, but was using a ketoprophen cream on a bad wrist. Even with it on my SKIN, it came with a warning that it might cause gastric distress! Wow, huh? Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com RE: Alternatives to NSAID's > > > > > > > > > OK, I am WAYYYYY behind on reading e-mails and if the topic of NSAIDS > > > has died, I apologize. HOWEVER, I do feel that it is critical and > > > important enough to address it even if I am late. > > > > > > Bextra is the newest, next generation of NSAIDS. It is simply an > > > anti-inflammatory with no compound to aid in the protection of our GI > > > systems. > > > > > > I want to help everyone understand the reason NSAIDS are dangerous for > > > us. Contrary to popular belief, it is not just that they are " pouch > > > burners " as the industry wants us to believe. It goes much deeper than > > > that. According to an article published in the June 1999 New England > > > Journal of Medicine, NSAIDS, once absorbed into the blood stream cause a > > > chain of chemical reactions that affect the prostaglandins and this in > > > turn reduces the production of mucus in the GI system. The mucus is what > > > lines our GI system and protects our pouch and intestines from damage. > > > If the mucus production is reduced, this would allow ANYTHING, including > > > eating something with too sharp of an edge or foods that are extremely > > > spicy, to inadvertently begin a marginal ulcer. The best answer is to > > > avoid NSAIDS at all cost. Taking an H2 receptor drug such as Prilosec, > > > Prevacid or Nexium is only a band-aid and no guarantee that it will > > > protect you. > > > > > > If you are desperate to try an NSAID, my recommendation would be > > > Arthrotec. It is an NSAID with a prostaglandin compound in it that tries > > > to prevent the chemical chain of events I was speaking of in the above > > > paragraph. There are still no guarantees. You are at risk for marginal > > > ulcers any time you take an anti-inflammatory medication. > > > > > > Ultram is a mild narcotic and can be habit forming, so I would not > > > recommend more than a six week course of it at any one time. > > > > > > Michele (with one L) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 My precise question. Ouch! Ring of Fire RNY April 1998 Re: Alternatives to NSAID's > But.........if can burn out our pouches what kind of damage will it > do to the 'nother end? > Alice > The Loon > RNY 12/28/00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 My precise question. Ouch! Ring of Fire RNY April 1998 Re: Alternatives to NSAID's > But.........if can burn out our pouches what kind of damage will it > do to the 'nother end? > Alice > The Loon > RNY 12/28/00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 One other suggestion is never ever let your mother in-law fill your generic Tylenol bottle with generic Motrin. Can't tell the difference between the two, especially if you don't take Tylenol a lot. My mother in-law came over one day after going to Costco and asked my husband if he wanted any Motrin, he said yes and for her to put it in the medicine chest. He thought she was putting a bottle in the medicine chest, not giving us half of her huge bottle that she bought. As we only have Tylenol in the house, she put the Motrin in there. That was about a week before I started getting a lot of headaches and taking 800-1000 mg of Tylenol a day for the headaches for weeks and wondering why my stomach was bothering me. Well a lot of uncomfortable days, and one gastroscopy later, ulcers, gastritis, etc. I knew they didn't like me, but wasn't prepared for this. Reminded me of the Twilight Zone episode where the woman killed her husband with the frozen leg of lamb then cooked it and served it to the police officers. Have to admit, it's never dull around here. As for me, it's name brand from now on. I like those little colored Tylenol pills. At least I know what I'm taking. It could have been a lot worse. Regina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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