Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 From almost the onset of significant symptoms, my brother has complained of the extreme fatigue as being a major issue. I have not though noticed that the fatigue is associated with meal time. Jerry Cash Re: Stress, Exertion and Symptoms , Yes, yes, yes! Rob certainly has the same problem with stress and/or physical exertion exacerbating his symptoms, and many others have complained of it as well. If you think of the brain as a computer, it's like having a shortage of RAM -- if it's taken up by too much physical or mental exertion, there aren't enough MIPS to run the body functions -- especially, it seems, the autonomic functions. How the brain prioritizes which things to process is a complete mystery to me. It certainly would be better for MSA patients if it gave first priority to the basic bodily functions, but that doesn't seem to be the case. At least not always. Theonly " cure " I know of is to rest and relax and avoid stressful situations, including crowds and places/things with too much sensory input. You will re-stabalize, but it will take a few days. This disease really stinks, doesn't it? Carol & Rob > In the past few weeks, the stresses of everyday life (not even > counting the stresses of MSA itself) have been piling up. During this > time, my symptoms have all gotten much worse. > > I've also had occasion to exert myself in multiple ways, some > physical some mental. Saturday I had the stress and physical exertion > of cleaning out the offices that my business occupied for six years, > but which we now must close due to my illness. Saturday night and all > day Sunday I was very fatigued, and Sunday night I woke several times > in the night with my heart alternating between racing and going slow, > the clear sensation of " hearing " my heartbeat, not to mention labored > breathing, even with my CPAP. I also had flu-like body aches, which > sometimes persist for days after I have severe periods of dystonia. > > I was just starting to get " back on my feet " so to speak, when I made > my first visit to the physical therapist this morning. Although I did > not have to exert myself at all, just the fact that she put my body > into certain postures has lest me exhausted and cramped (and very > sore). Now I'm sitting in a chair feeling like a vegetable and having > difficulty even typing. > > So, my question is, do other MSA patients suffer from this seemingly > disproportinate elevation in symptoms from what would seem to be > relatively little activity or stimulus? > > I'm about to start a 4-6 week regimine of PT twice per week. My hope > is that over time, my body will adjust, but I also fear that I could > spend a lot of time in a pretty useless state, just when I seemed to > be finding some level of " groove " in this illness. I'm at the point > where I've made the decision to be a productive person and not let > the disease get the better of me, but I also frequently feel like I > not only missed the bus, but that it ran me over. > > I have another question, which I'm going to write in another thread. > > Thanks for your responses. > > Pax, > If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may unsubscribe by sending a blank email to shydrager-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 From almost the onset of significant symptoms, my brother has complained of the extreme fatigue as being a major issue. I have not though noticed that the fatigue is associated with meal time. Jerry Cash Re: Stress, Exertion and Symptoms , Yes, yes, yes! Rob certainly has the same problem with stress and/or physical exertion exacerbating his symptoms, and many others have complained of it as well. If you think of the brain as a computer, it's like having a shortage of RAM -- if it's taken up by too much physical or mental exertion, there aren't enough MIPS to run the body functions -- especially, it seems, the autonomic functions. How the brain prioritizes which things to process is a complete mystery to me. It certainly would be better for MSA patients if it gave first priority to the basic bodily functions, but that doesn't seem to be the case. At least not always. Theonly " cure " I know of is to rest and relax and avoid stressful situations, including crowds and places/things with too much sensory input. You will re-stabalize, but it will take a few days. This disease really stinks, doesn't it? Carol & Rob > In the past few weeks, the stresses of everyday life (not even > counting the stresses of MSA itself) have been piling up. During this > time, my symptoms have all gotten much worse. > > I've also had occasion to exert myself in multiple ways, some > physical some mental. Saturday I had the stress and physical exertion > of cleaning out the offices that my business occupied for six years, > but which we now must close due to my illness. Saturday night and all > day Sunday I was very fatigued, and Sunday night I woke several times > in the night with my heart alternating between racing and going slow, > the clear sensation of " hearing " my heartbeat, not to mention labored > breathing, even with my CPAP. I also had flu-like body aches, which > sometimes persist for days after I have severe periods of dystonia. > > I was just starting to get " back on my feet " so to speak, when I made > my first visit to the physical therapist this morning. Although I did > not have to exert myself at all, just the fact that she put my body > into certain postures has lest me exhausted and cramped (and very > sore). Now I'm sitting in a chair feeling like a vegetable and having > difficulty even typing. > > So, my question is, do other MSA patients suffer from this seemingly > disproportinate elevation in symptoms from what would seem to be > relatively little activity or stimulus? > > I'm about to start a 4-6 week regimine of PT twice per week. My hope > is that over time, my body will adjust, but I also fear that I could > spend a lot of time in a pretty useless state, just when I seemed to > be finding some level of " groove " in this illness. I'm at the point > where I've made the decision to be a productive person and not let > the disease get the better of me, but I also frequently feel like I > not only missed the bus, but that it ran me over. > > I have another question, which I'm going to write in another thread. > > Thanks for your responses. > > Pax, > If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may unsubscribe by sending a blank email to shydrager-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 HELLO,I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS EVERY HAD A PLUMARY FUNCTION TEST DONE BEFORE.I HAD ONE THE OTHER DAY AND I FELT THAT THEY REALLY GOT MAD WITH ME BECAUSE I COULDN,T DO THE THINGS THE WAY THAT THEY WANTED THEM DONE,OR MAYBE IT IS JUST ME.THE WAY THAT I HAD BEEN FEELING LATELY I FEEL LIKE THAT I CAN,T DO ANYTHING TO PLEASE PEOPLE.THEYB ALSO HAD ME DO A MUSCLE THING SAING THAT THEY WERE SEEING HOW MUCH MUSCLE THAT I HAD,OR SOMTHING LIKE THAT.I AM ALSO DUE TO HAVE A EMG DONE MONDAY.WILL THIS TEST DETEMINE WHAT I HAVE.PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF ANY OF YA HAVE EVERY DONE THESE TEST BEFORE..THANK YOU JANICE HARRELL 1-904 534-2882 OR 374-1362 YOU CAN CALL ANYTIME IT IS NICE TALKING TO PEOPLE THAT KNOWS A LITTLE ABOUT WHAT WE ARE ALL GOING THREW.. --- belnorest Belindastime@...> wrote: > -, > I know what you are talking about. I too can only do > an extremely > small fraction of what I use to do. They say you > have to find your > limitations on when to stop. I think that when your > body tells you to > stop don't force the issue " stop " . I too would not > be able to do > anything for 2 or 3 days later when surpassing the > limit. It is very > frustrating but something that we have to do. I hope > this helps. > God Bless, > Belinda > > -- In shydrager@y..., " bigredbmw " > wrote: > > In the past few weeks, the stresses of everyday > life (not even > > counting the stresses of MSA itself) have been > piling up. During > this > > time, my symptoms have all gotten much worse. > > > > I've also had occasion to exert myself in multiple > ways, some > > physical some mental. Saturday I had the stress > and physical > exertion > > of cleaning out the offices that my business > occupied for six > years, > > but which we now must close due to my illness. > Saturday night and > all > > day Sunday I was very fatigued, and Sunday night I > woke several > times > > in the night with my heart alternating between > racing and going > slow, > > the clear sensation of " hearing " my heartbeat, not > to mention > labored > > breathing, even with my CPAP. I also had flu-like > body aches, which > > sometimes persist for days after I have severe > periods of dystonia. > > > > I was just starting to get " back on my feet " so to > speak, when I > made > > my first visit to the physical therapist this > morning. Although I > did > > not have to exert myself at all, just the fact > that she put my body > > into certain postures has lest me exhausted and > cramped (and very > > sore). Now I'm sitting in a chair feeling like a > vegetable and > having > > difficulty even typing. > > > > So, my question is, do other MSA patients suffer > from this > seemingly > > disproportinate elevation in symptoms from what > would seem to be > > relatively little activity or stimulus? > > > > I'm about to start a 4-6 week regimine of PT twice > per week. My > hope > > is that over time, my body will adjust, but I also > fear that I > could > > spend a lot of time in a pretty useless state, > just when I seemed > to > > be finding some level of " groove " in this illness. > I'm at the point > > where I've made the decision to be a productive > person and not let > > the disease get the better of me, but I also > frequently feel like I > > not only missed the bus, but that it ran me over. > > > > I have another question, which I'm going to write > in another thread. > > > > Thanks for your responses. > > > > Pax, > > > > > If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may > unsubscribe by sending a blank email to > > shydrager-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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