Re: Subject: I need help concerning bladder infections>Aletta

May 25, 2002

What is the difference between inflammation and infection?

> >Belinda:

> >Fred's Neurologist sent him to an urologist because of the UTI's.

The

> >Urologist put him on Nitrofuran MCR 50mg Cap everyday. His been on

this

> >for a year now.

> >I think that I would ask your Neurologist to send you to a

urologist to

> >see if there is something else that he thinks should be done for

these

> >bladder infections that you are getting.

> >..

> >

> >Take Care

> >Vera

> >

> >Subject: I need help concerning bladder infections

> >

> >Hi all,

> >I know that we have talked several times on here about bladder

> >infections but I was wondering does someone with this disease have

to

> >take antibiotics longer than a " normal " person does. I have had a

> >bladder infection took antibiotic for 5 days and then started

feeling

> >better to just start hurting real bad again after 3 or 4 days. I

then

> >go back on the antibiotic and continue with this process. My

> >neurologist said this isn't his job and my internist knows about

> >infections but not MSA or CBGD. I have put information about it in

my

> >folder but I think that is as far as it got. If you can help me

with

> >this I would appreciate it.

> >Thanks and God bless,

> >Belinda

> >

> >If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> >unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

> >

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> >

May 25, 2002

What is the difference between inflammation and infection?

> >Belinda:

> >Fred's Neurologist sent him to an urologist because of the UTI's.

The

> >Urologist put him on Nitrofuran MCR 50mg Cap everyday. His been on

this

> >for a year now.

> >I think that I would ask your Neurologist to send you to a

urologist to

> >see if there is something else that he thinks should be done for

these

> >bladder infections that you are getting.

> >..

> >

> >Take Care

> >Vera

> >

> >Subject: I need help concerning bladder infections

> >

> >Hi all,

> >I know that we have talked several times on here about bladder

> >infections but I was wondering does someone with this disease have

to

> >take antibiotics longer than a " normal " person does. I have had a

> >bladder infection took antibiotic for 5 days and then started

feeling

> >better to just start hurting real bad again after 3 or 4 days. I

then

> >go back on the antibiotic and continue with this process. My

> >neurologist said this isn't his job and my internist knows about

> >infections but not MSA or CBGD. I have put information about it in

my

> >folder but I think that is as far as it got. If you can help me

with

> >this I would appreciate it.

> >Thanks and God bless,

> >Belinda

> >

> >If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> >unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

> >

> >shydrager-unsubscribe@y...

> >

May 25, 2002

What is the difference between inflammation and infection?

> >Belinda:

> >Fred's Neurologist sent him to an urologist because of the UTI's.

The

> >Urologist put him on Nitrofuran MCR 50mg Cap everyday. His been on

this

> >for a year now.

> >I think that I would ask your Neurologist to send you to a

urologist to

> >see if there is something else that he thinks should be done for

these

> >bladder infections that you are getting.

> >..

> >

> >Take Care

> >Vera

> >

> >Subject: I need help concerning bladder infections

> >

> >Hi all,

> >I know that we have talked several times on here about bladder

> >infections but I was wondering does someone with this disease have

to

> >take antibiotics longer than a " normal " person does. I have had a

> >bladder infection took antibiotic for 5 days and then started

feeling

> >better to just start hurting real bad again after 3 or 4 days. I

then

> >go back on the antibiotic and continue with this process. My

> >neurologist said this isn't his job and my internist knows about

> >infections but not MSA or CBGD. I have put information about it in

my

> >folder but I think that is as far as it got. If you can help me

with

> >this I would appreciate it.

> >Thanks and God bless,

> >Belinda

> >

> >If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> >unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

> >

> >shydrager-unsubscribe@y...

> >

May 25, 2002

Belinda,

Inflammation and infection have some similarities. Both can have tenderness

and swelling at the problem sight and bacteria can cause inflammation. The

difference here is that the doctor has reason to believe the inflammation is

chemically or mechanically caused. Since it does not involve a pathogen,

antibiotics would be totally inappropriate.

God Bless,

Judy & Jim

I need help concerning bladder infections

> > >

> > >Hi all,

> > >I know that we have talked several times on here about bladder

> > >infections but I was wondering does someone with this disease have

> to

> > >take antibiotics longer than a " normal " person does. I have had a

> > >bladder infection took antibiotic for 5 days and then started

> feeling

> > >better to just start hurting real bad again after 3 or 4 days. I

> then

> > >go back on the antibiotic and continue with this process. My

> > >neurologist said this isn't his job and my internist knows about

> > >infections but not MSA or CBGD. I have put information about it in

> my

> > >folder but I think that is as far as it got. If you can help me

> with

> > >this I would appreciate it.

> > >Thanks and God bless,

> > >Belinda

> > >

> > >If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> > >unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

> > >

> > >shydrager-unsubscribe@y...

> > >

May 25, 2002

Belinda,

Inflammation and infection have some similarities. Both can have tenderness

and swelling at the problem sight and bacteria can cause inflammation. The

difference here is that the doctor has reason to believe the inflammation is

chemically or mechanically caused. Since it does not involve a pathogen,

antibiotics would be totally inappropriate.

God Bless,

Judy & Jim

I need help concerning bladder infections

> > >

> > >Hi all,

> > >I know that we have talked several times on here about bladder

> > >infections but I was wondering does someone with this disease have

> to

> > >take antibiotics longer than a " normal " person does. I have had a

> > >bladder infection took antibiotic for 5 days and then started

> feeling

> > >better to just start hurting real bad again after 3 or 4 days. I

> then

> > >go back on the antibiotic and continue with this process. My

> > >neurologist said this isn't his job and my internist knows about

> > >infections but not MSA or CBGD. I have put information about it in

> my

> > >folder but I think that is as far as it got. If you can help me

> with

> > >this I would appreciate it.

> > >Thanks and God bless,

> > >Belinda

> > >

> > >If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> > >unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

> > >

> > >shydrager-unsubscribe@y...

> > >

May 25, 2002

Belinda,

Inflammation and infection have some similarities. Both can have tenderness

and swelling at the problem sight and bacteria can cause inflammation. The

difference here is that the doctor has reason to believe the inflammation is

chemically or mechanically caused. Since it does not involve a pathogen,

antibiotics would be totally inappropriate.

God Bless,

Judy & Jim

I need help concerning bladder infections

> > >

> > >Hi all,

> > >I know that we have talked several times on here about bladder

> > >infections but I was wondering does someone with this disease have

> to

> > >take antibiotics longer than a " normal " person does. I have had a

> > >bladder infection took antibiotic for 5 days and then started

> feeling

> > >better to just start hurting real bad again after 3 or 4 days. I

> then

> > >go back on the antibiotic and continue with this process. My

> > >neurologist said this isn't his job and my internist knows about

> > >infections but not MSA or CBGD. I have put information about it in

> my

> > >folder but I think that is as far as it got. If you can help me

> with

> > >this I would appreciate it.

> > >Thanks and God bless,

> > >Belinda

> > >

> > >If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> > >unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

> > >

> > >shydrager-unsubscribe@y...

> > >

May 25, 2002

Speaking of anti-biotics.. an experience I had might be relevent -

when I had symptomes of pnemonia a couple of years ago, when that

nasty flu bug was going around, I finally went to the doctor when I

realized I wasn't getting better.. The doctor prescribed an

anti-biotic whose treatment course was like a week or two (I can't

remember exactly) and the doc sends me home saying " try this. " So I

try it for several days, and it turns out to be totally

ineffective... but I am expecting it to be effective, so I keep

trying it, thinking maybe it's supposed to take this long. Well

eventually towards the end of the treatment I call the doctor back

and advise the stuff's not helping.. so then the doctor prescribes a

stronger antibiotic.. the stuff has like just 3 or 4 pills, taken

once per day, is 3 times more expensive than the previous treatment's

20 or so pills, which were taken more than once per day, the

treatment course for this new anti-biotic is therefore just a very

few days.. like 5 at the most.. again I can't rememebr the exact

numbers.. and viola .. it kicks my infection on it's butt.

So what I concluded from my experience is that if the doctor doesn't

make clear that he is prescribing some weak watered down anti-biotic

as an experiment, then it's going to take a lot longer before the

patient is able to realize that the anti-biotic isn't working.

and I know doctors are concerned that over-prescription of

anti-biotics might breed stronger germs. I wonder if

under-prescription might not have the same effect... gradually

increasing the dosage of anti-biotic would kill off the weaker germs

first, allow the stronger germs room to live and grow. no? That's

just a lay person's theory there.

So.. the impression I get is that perhaps the general policy of

doctors may be to prescribe the weakest anti-biotic first, and then

move to stronger stuff if that doesn't help.

I've never had a bladder infection that I know of, but I did have an

infection of the lower urinary tract once. that was interesting.. At

one point I was literally pissing blood. That was in France. The

French doctor visited me at my home, and prescribed something, (I

don't remember what, that was several years ago.. ) and well that

cleared it right up. Why can't I get that kind of experience in

America? Compare that to American medicine where you have to be the

one to visit the doctor.. after all the hastle of going out in your

car while you're sick, waiting in the waiting room, speaking to a

nurse, then waiting a half hour more, then speaking to the doctor, in

a strange and uncomfortable setting, it really makes it less likely

that the two of you will communicate effectivly, the doctor is seeing

you outside of the context of your normal environment, which might

not hurt the diagnosis in all cases but certainly won't help..

*grumble grumble*

-elliot

--

Elliot

elliot01@...

www.xenopink.com

May 25, 2002

Inflammation results from irritation (urine too thick, been

there too long, stones in urine etc.), infection involves bacteria (the

kind that are bad for you, some bateria are good for you, the ones you

don't want to kill with constant medications).

At Saturday 5/25/02 12:53 AM, you wrote:

What is the difference between

inflammation and infection?

> >Belinda:

> >Fred's Neurologist sent him to an urologist because of the

UTI's.

The

> >Urologist put him on Nitrofuran MCR 50mg Cap everyday. His been

on

this

> >for a year now.

> >I think that I would ask your Neurologist to send you to a

urologist to

> >see if there is something else that he thinks should be done for

these

> >bladder infections that you are getting.

> >..

> >

> >Take Care

> >Vera

> >

> >Subject: I need help concerning bladder infections

> >

> >Hi all,

> >I know that we have talked several times on here about

bladder

> >infections but I was wondering does someone with this disease

have

to

> >take antibiotics longer than a " normal " person does. I

have had a

> >bladder infection took antibiotic for 5 days and then started

feeling

> >better to just start hurting real bad again after 3 or 4 days. I

then

> >go back on the antibiotic and continue with this process.

My

> >neurologist said this isn't his job and my internist knows

about

> >infections but not MSA or CBGD. I have put information about it

in

my

> >folder but I think that is as far as it got. If you can help me

with

> >this I would appreciate it.

> >Thanks and God bless,

> >Belinda

> >

> >If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> >unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

> >

> >shydrager-unsubscribe@y...

> >

May 25, 2002

Inflammation results from irritation (urine too thick, been

there too long, stones in urine etc.), infection involves bacteria (the

kind that are bad for you, some bateria are good for you, the ones you

don't want to kill with constant medications).

At Saturday 5/25/02 12:53 AM, you wrote:

What is the difference between

inflammation and infection?

> >Belinda:

> >Fred's Neurologist sent him to an urologist because of the

UTI's.

The

> >Urologist put him on Nitrofuran MCR 50mg Cap everyday. His been

on

this

> >for a year now.

> >I think that I would ask your Neurologist to send you to a

urologist to

> >see if there is something else that he thinks should be done for

these

> >bladder infections that you are getting.

> >..

> >

> >Take Care

> >Vera

> >

> >Subject: I need help concerning bladder infections

> >

> >Hi all,

> >I know that we have talked several times on here about

bladder

> >infections but I was wondering does someone with this disease

have

to

> >take antibiotics longer than a " normal " person does. I

have had a

> >bladder infection took antibiotic for 5 days and then started

feeling

> >better to just start hurting real bad again after 3 or 4 days. I

then

> >go back on the antibiotic and continue with this process.

My

> >neurologist said this isn't his job and my internist knows

about

> >infections but not MSA or CBGD. I have put information about it

in

my

> >folder but I think that is as far as it got. If you can help me

with

> >this I would appreciate it.

> >Thanks and God bless,

> >Belinda

> >

> >If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> >unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

> >

> >shydrager-unsubscribe@y...

> >

May 25, 2002

Inflammation results from irritation (urine too thick, been

there too long, stones in urine etc.), infection involves bacteria (the

kind that are bad for you, some bateria are good for you, the ones you

don't want to kill with constant medications).

At Saturday 5/25/02 12:53 AM, you wrote:

What is the difference between

inflammation and infection?

> >Belinda:

> >Fred's Neurologist sent him to an urologist because of the

UTI's.

The

> >Urologist put him on Nitrofuran MCR 50mg Cap everyday. His been

on

this

> >for a year now.

> >I think that I would ask your Neurologist to send you to a

urologist to

> >see if there is something else that he thinks should be done for

these

> >bladder infections that you are getting.

> >..

> >

> >Take Care

> >Vera

> >

> >Subject: I need help concerning bladder infections

> >

> >Hi all,

> >I know that we have talked several times on here about

bladder

> >infections but I was wondering does someone with this disease

have

to

> >take antibiotics longer than a " normal " person does. I

have had a

> >bladder infection took antibiotic for 5 days and then started

feeling

> >better to just start hurting real bad again after 3 or 4 days. I

then

> >go back on the antibiotic and continue with this process.

My

> >neurologist said this isn't his job and my internist knows

about

> >infections but not MSA or CBGD. I have put information about it

in

my

> >folder but I think that is as far as it got. If you can help me

with

> >this I would appreciate it.

> >Thanks and God bless,

> >Belinda

> >

> >If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> >unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

> >

> >shydrager-unsubscribe@y...

> >

May 25, 2002

Depends on the doctor, my son's neurologist has my son

regularly give samples for cultures (monthly), when one turns out to be

positive for bacterial infection, the phone rings and the Cipro is

waiting at the parmacy. Luck of the draw my friend.

At Saturday 5/25/02 01:03 PM, you wrote:

Speaking of anti-biotics.. an

experience I had might be relevent -

when I had symptomes of pnemonia a couple of years ago, when that

nasty flu bug was going around, I finally went to the doctor when I

realized I wasn't getting better.. The doctor prescribed an

anti-biotic whose treatment course was like a week or two (I can't

remember exactly) and the doc sends me home saying " try

this. " So I