Guest guest Posted September 22, 2000 Report Share Posted September 22, 2000 Hi, Zippy and Steve, >Have heard it costs between $14-20 U.S. dollars to manufacture one vial of >HGH. That vial then retails for $215-260. (!) I look forward to the >patent rights coming off this drug. Is this the raw materials cost? If so that is misleading because there are a lot of FDA-mandated overhead and administrative costs that have to be counted in. (Been there - QC lab in a pharmaceutical plant. The paperwork is incredible, enough to require half as many people to handle the paperwork as to run the QC tests.) >The patent was suppose to expire this year I think but some congressman (a >republican; I'm voting for Gore now) pushed through an extension of the >patent. Patents are usually extended as compensation for some other consideration on the part of the manufacturer - doing additional studies for 'label indications' for children, for instance, or having gotten orphan drug status (which means fewer patients to sell to.) Not that all the drug companies are innocent - drug company profits are steadily high for a manufacturer. Jerry _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2000 Report Share Posted September 23, 2000 > Hi, Zippy and Steve, > > >Have heard it costs between $14-20 U.S. dollars to manufacture one vial of HGH. Hi Jerry, Yes , I believe that was the raw material cost. Didn't mean to be vilifying the drug companies. It's their product, and I think they should be able to charge whatever they want for it, even if it's ten-thousand dollars a vial. I know the FDA must give them a lot of grief. I just meant simply what I said , I wish it was cheaper. Zippy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 In response to 's statement, I agree with her except for two things: 1. The convention is the hotel's main business that week with all the rooms, the dance, the ballrooms we need, etc. 2. The convention traditionally ever since I've been a member has had at least 1400, 1600 in LA I think. My point is this is a good idea but it wouldn't accommodate all the convention attendees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 I am very new to some of the terms flying around on here. Can someone explain them to me? Chelation. What is it? And how do I know if it affects my son? Fenol. Ditto. I thought the latest thing was Dietary Intervention with Enzymes. There appears to be a whole can of worms I've yet to learn about. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 In a message dated 8/23/02 12:34:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, RBloom0566@... writes: > Fenol. Ditto. > > I thought the latest thing was Dietary Intervention with Enzymes. There > appears to be a whole can of worms I've yet to learn about. > > Thanks, > > -- We've never chelated, so I can't advise you on that. There is a Group called . You could join and read what others have posted. Also, check the files section of this group for all the information you need on phenols (what No-Fenol is used for) and enzymes. Also, Dana posts a lot of information about the chelation successes she's had with her kids. Good luck! Celia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 >>> Chelation. What is it? Basically the removal of heavy metals from the body - such as mercury, lead, tin, arsenic, antimony, aluminum, etc. Some people suffer from metal toxicity acquired through a variety of means. Some people, some with autism and some without, are greatly helped and their health returns once the metals are removed from the body. >>>And how do I know if it affects my son? There are certain things you can do such as the hair analysis test. Here is the link to the autism treatment group and they have lots of information in their Files section, and feel free to just post too: >>> Fenol. Ditto. A " phenol " is a chemical found in all foods (basically a 6-sided carbon ring with an OH group on it). Some people have a problem processing phenols out of the body (the body sees it as toxic) which can lead to an assortment of symptoms both behavioral and physical. The long-standing Feingold diet/program is based on eliminating these compounds from the diet. This program has helped many with autism and ADD/ADHD and other behavioral problems. They have a lot of research at their site www.feingold.org. Dana has a quicker description at her site and a list of common highly phenolic foods. http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/phenol.htm The enzyme product No-Fenol from Houston is the first ever enzyme supplement to have an impact on helping people process these phenolic foods and compounds. Since phenols occur in all foods you cannot completely erradicate them from the diet. Here is a link from the company describing No-Fenol. http://216.114.78.114/webcenter/sites/HNI/Section.asp?SID=3536 Here is a link to The No-Fenol File which talks about how No-Fenol might be working and who may be a good candidate to see results from it. My younger son and my husband take it because they have irritable bowel syndrome, not phenol issues. Also, people who struggle with yeast overgrowth see excellent results when the No- Fenol is combined with an antifungal such as grapefruit seed extract. /files/The%20No-Fenol% 20File . > I thought the latest thing was Dietary Intervention with Enzymes. There > appears to be a whole can of worms I've yet to learn about. > > Thanks, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 > I am very new to some of the terms flying around on here. Can someone > explain them to me? > > Chelation. What is it? And how do I know if it affects my son? Removal of metals http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/chelate.htm > Fenol. Ditto. A component of foods and other things http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/phenol.htm > > I thought the latest thing was Dietary Intervention with Enzymes. Depends on who you are talking to. The " latest " thing is one of many things, depending on the source. There > appears to be a whole can of worms I've yet to learn about. Always. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 Hello RObert, > I am very new to some of the terms flying around on here. Can someone > explain them to me? > > Chelation. What is it? And how do I know if it affects my son? > Fenol. Ditto. Well, it seems you have had several answers to what chelate and fenol mean. I thought I would also offer this informal glossary: /files/Glossary [you do NOT need to " join " that list to read this.] It is eclectic, and tends toward words used on the autism treatment list--- so it is probably missing most " enzymatic " words..... still may be some help..... also has references to medical-type sites where one can search, etc.... > I thought the latest thing was Dietary Intervention with Enzymes. There > appears to be a whole can of worms I've yet to learn about. Oh, I think it is a whole can alright. I don't know what you already know about or don't but there is definately a lot to know about.... perhaps 2 cans of worms? best wishes, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 In a message dated 8/31/03 11:47:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, writes: > essage: 2 > Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:17:55 -0000 > From: " scma2girls " <SCma2girls@...> > Subject: Re: Hello - brand new > > Hi Mark, > > Thank you for your prayers and helpful words. I am on the hunt for > things that may trigger her seizures. Although she is only 3, she > understands that she doesn't want to do anything that may cause the > seizure. I will watch the cokes. Would you think it has to do with > the caffeine? Or did you mean soda in general? Luckily we have > the " seizure procedure " down pat. Faith's sisters and Papa are very > helpful and we live about 1 minute from the hospital. God Bless, > > > ANY exictotoxins or neurotoxins in food trigger my son.... caffeine and sugar are high up on the list. Get some books on nutritional healing and epilepsy. mjh MJH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 In a message dated 10/17/04 7:37:39 AM Mountain Daylight Time, SSRI medications writes: > > I believe that these drugs are 'class A' hypnotics and just wanted to > relish over the facts. > I thought you would be the best person to ask. > Dear Chris: To my knowledge, the history of Paxil is still posted at my pal's website, SSRI Citizen. I believe it is under Founder's Statement. Yes, Paxil was indeed registered as a " hypnotic for human consumption " back in 1980. It was originally formulated by Dr. Buus-Laassen, who was a veterinarian. Neither Rob nor I have quite pieced together how it went from being a HYPNOTIC to being an ANTIDEPRESSANT, and of course, the fact that it was once registered as a hynotic gives new meaning to some of the side effects we all had. Let me know if you can or cannot access this information from Rob's site, otherwise I'll see if I can access the story he wrote last summer when we were both digging into Nazi concentration camp experiements and tracing the origins of Paxil to some rather unseemly connections. " Blind Reason " a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 In a message dated 10/17/04 7:37:39 AM Mountain Daylight Time, SSRI medications writes: > > I believe that these drugs are 'class A' hypnotics and just wanted to > relish over the facts. > I thought you would be the best person to ask. > Dear Chris: To my knowledge, the history of Paxil is still posted at my pal's website, SSRI Citizen. I believe it is under Founder's Statement. Yes, Paxil was indeed registered as a " hypnotic for human consumption " back in 1980. It was originally formulated by Dr. Buus-Laassen, who was a veterinarian. Neither Rob nor I have quite pieced together how it went from being a HYPNOTIC to being an ANTIDEPRESSANT, and of course, the fact that it was once registered as a hynotic gives new meaning to some of the side effects we all had. Let me know if you can or cannot access this information from Rob's site, otherwise I'll see if I can access the story he wrote last summer when we were both digging into Nazi concentration camp experiements and tracing the origins of Paxil to some rather unseemly connections. " Blind Reason " a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 In a message dated 10/17/04 7:37:39 AM Mountain Daylight Time, SSRI medications writes: > > I believe that these drugs are 'class A' hypnotics and just wanted to > relish over the facts. > I thought you would be the best person to ask. > Dear Chris: To my knowledge, the history of Paxil is still posted at my pal's website, SSRI Citizen. I believe it is under Founder's Statement. Yes, Paxil was indeed registered as a " hypnotic for human consumption " back in 1980. It was originally formulated by Dr. Buus-Laassen, who was a veterinarian. Neither Rob nor I have quite pieced together how it went from being a HYPNOTIC to being an ANTIDEPRESSANT, and of course, the fact that it was once registered as a hynotic gives new meaning to some of the side effects we all had. Let me know if you can or cannot access this information from Rob's site, otherwise I'll see if I can access the story he wrote last summer when we were both digging into Nazi concentration camp experiements and tracing the origins of Paxil to some rather unseemly connections. " Blind Reason " a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 In a message dated 10/17/04 7:37:39 AM Mountain Daylight Time, SSRI medications writes: > > I believe that these drugs are 'class A' hypnotics and just wanted to > relish over the facts. > I thought you would be the best person to ask. > Dear Chris: To my knowledge, the history of Paxil is still posted at my pal's website, SSRI Citizen. I believe it is under Founder's Statement. Yes, Paxil was indeed registered as a " hypnotic for human consumption " back in 1980. It was originally formulated by Dr. Buus-Laassen, who was a veterinarian. Neither Rob nor I have quite pieced together how it went from being a HYPNOTIC to being an ANTIDEPRESSANT, and of course, the fact that it was once registered as a hynotic gives new meaning to some of the side effects we all had. Let me know if you can or cannot access this information from Rob's site, otherwise I'll see if I can access the story he wrote last summer when we were both digging into Nazi concentration camp experiements and tracing the origins of Paxil to some rather unseemly connections. " Blind Reason " a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 thanks glitter...found it on Robs site.. Best regards, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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