Re: Neurologists/Barb Woodford

May 24, 2002

WOW!!! We must have hit the jackpot. All of the neurologists,

and family physicians, we dealt with were fantastic in every way.

I am sorry some are not treated as they ought to be. This awful

illness is enough to contend with. Bad doctors are not what you need.

Barb in Arlington

Rain

coming our way tonight.

--

"You have to wonder about humans, they think God is dead

and Elvis is still alive!" Anon

May 24, 2002

WOW!!! We must have hit the jackpot. All of the neurologists,

and family physicians, we dealt with were fantastic in every way.

I am sorry some are not treated as they ought to be. This awful

illness is enough to contend with. Bad doctors are not what you need.

Barb in Arlington

Rain

coming our way tonight.

--

"You have to wonder about humans, they think God is dead

and Elvis is still alive!" Anon

May 24, 2002

WOW!!! We must have hit the jackpot. All of the neurologists,

and family physicians, we dealt with were fantastic in every way.

I am sorry some are not treated as they ought to be. This awful

illness is enough to contend with. Bad doctors are not what you need.

Barb in Arlington

Rain

coming our way tonight.

--

"You have to wonder about humans, they think God is dead

and Elvis is still alive!" Anon

May 25, 2002

Our neurologist was a peach. He even sent me a lovely sympathy

card after Jack died. Judy

Barb wrote:

WOW!!! We must have hit the jackpot.

All of the neurologists, and family physicians, we dealt with were

fantastic in every way.

I am sorry some are not treated as they ought to be. This awful

illness is enough to contend with. Bad doctors are not what you need.

Barb in Arlington

Rain

coming our way tonight.

--

"You have to wonder about humans, they think God is dead

and Elvis is still alive!" Anon

May 25, 2002

Thank goodness, perhaps I could still find one. Luck

of the draw, where you happen to be has a lot to do with it, and who

refers you. We should keep a database rating them and listing them

by area, also, a section for compliments and horror stories.

Sometimes a doctor works out for one person and totally fail to connect

with another.

Glad to see you're still keeping us company - sending warm fuzzies your

way (akward but genuine fuzzies.)

At Friday 5/24/02 11:33 PM, you wrote:

Our neurologist was a

peach. He even sent me a lovely sympathy card after Jack

died. Judy

Barb wrote:

WOW!!! We must have hit the

jackpot. All of the neurologists, and family physicians, we

dealt with were fantastic in every way.

I am sorry some are not treated as they ought to be. This awful

illness is enough to contend with. Bad doctors are not what you need.

Barb in Arlington

Rain

coming our way tonight.

--

" You have to wonder about humans, they think God is dead

and Elvis is still alive! " Anon

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vancouver, bc Canada

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May 25, 2002

Ok, now I wonder if it is just women who aren't taken seriously. I

think doctors listen to men and believe them faster then they do

women. I think most of them want to say its a woman's problem, they

might be abused by their husbands or think women might be a mental

case. What do others think? I am not male bashing only putting out a

question.

Belinda

> WOW!!! We must have hit the jackpot. All of the neurologists, and

> family physicians, we dealt with were fantastic in every way.

>

> I am sorry some are not treated as they ought to be. This awful

illness

> is enough to contend with. Bad doctors are not what you need.

>

> Barb in Arlington

>

> [image]Rain coming our way tonight.

>

> --

> " You have to wonder about humans, they think God is dead

> and Elvis is still alive! " Anon

May 25, 2002

,

Very well said.

A favorite question, we as pharmaceutical reps., would ask a person who was

complaining about their doctor was: What do you call the person that

graduates with the lowest GPA in his medical class? DOCTOR! They are not

all the same and most don't want to be put on that pedestal.

God Bless,

Judy & Jim Stark

RE: Neurologists/Barb Woodford

> Folks, get off it! Everyone faces doctors that don't have a clue. I

> just wonder how my customers feel about me sometimes!

>

> Please remember, that in general we hire our doctors and can fire them.

> I realize this is not always the case. Even when it is not, you have an

> avenue of grievance. The important thing is to stay calm and

> professional about the situation.

>

> And yes, there is some sexual discrimination in play. My wife and I

> have gone shopping for a car, that she was purchasing. Not me. Her

> money, her choice. Well of course we get to the car lot and the sales

> 'thing' would ONLY talk with me. I march into the sales manager's

> office and explain what a slime ball his sales rep has been, and we WILL

> take our business elsewhere. My wife goes several times and hears

> statements such as " Bring your husband back and we can talk... " . The

> difference. She does not confront. This is a male vs. female

> difference. Women on general attempt to socialize and not confront.

> Men tend to see the world in pecking orders. And I REFUSE to have some

> person paid minimal wage treat me or my wife as if I do not exist. I

> confront.

>

> As a result of this difference doctors do pay attention to me. Or I

> fire them. I had a neurologist decide to blame the patient and tell me

> it was just anxiety. I confronted. I wondered where he Diploma of

> Psychiatry was located. I had not seen it. I then asked her to prove

> to me that it was anxiety. She could not, but did not want to change

> her diagnosis. I walked and found another doctor. That simple. But I

> bet she will think twice before blaming the patient again.

>

> Doctors are no different than the rest of us. Believe me. I see

> similar behaviors in computer 'experts' all the time. When in doubt,

> blame the customer. When in doubt, assume the client is incompetent.

> When in doubt ... And you know what? I confront them all the time.

> And I also see more male customers confront us when someone pulls such a

> maneuver on them.

>

> So, get off it! Doctors are people too. If you don't want them to act

> as if they are on a pedestal, don't treat them that way.

>

> Regards,

> =jbf=

>

> B. Fisher

>

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May 25, 2002

,

I don't know what we are suppose to get off of? I think we are saying

that not all doctors know about rare diseases and tell the

experiences we have had. I think you just did that yourself, if I am

not mistaken. Do you think that we kept the doctors who did this to

us? NO! We fired them just like you did. That is why we finally have

a doctor to help us. We just wanted other people to know that we have

been there and done that and not to worry that they also will find

the doctor they need. Like you also said not all women are in the

pushy broad club but alot of us have learned how to be. So as I have

said many times before everyone has the right to express their

opinion and to tell others that yes this does happen but don't give

up because there is a doctor out there to help you. As far as women

going out and buying thier own car, I have done that also. I bought a

35,000.00 Ford Expedition in my name. I think I know how to do that

also without my husbands help. If a person comes to me male or female

and asked me if there was problems with that also, I could also say

yes. So before you want to blow up and get on your high horse

think about what we are saying and not what you think we said.

Belinda

> Folks, get off it! Everyone faces doctors that don't have a clue.

I

> just wonder how my customers feel about me sometimes!

>

> Please remember, that in general we hire our doctors and can fire

them.

> I realize this is not always the case. Even when it is not, you

have an

> avenue of grievance. The important thing is to stay calm and

> professional about the situation.

>

> And yes, there is some sexual discrimination in play. My wife and I

> have gone shopping for a car, that she was purchasing. Not me. Her

> money, her choice. Well of course we get to the car lot and the

sales

> 'thing' would ONLY talk with me. I march into the sales manager's

> office and explain what a slime ball his sales rep has been, and we

WILL

> take our business elsewhere. My wife goes several times and hears

> statements such as " Bring your husband back and we can talk... " .

The

> difference. She does not confront. This is a male vs. female

> difference. Women on general attempt to socialize and not confront.

> Men tend to see the world in pecking orders. And I REFUSE to have

some

> person paid minimal wage treat me or my wife as if I do not exist.

I

> confront.

>

> As a result of this difference doctors do pay attention to me. Or I

> fire them. I had a neurologist decide to blame the patient and

tell me

> it was just anxiety. I confronted. I wondered where he Diploma of

> Psychiatry was located. I had not seen it. I then asked her to

prove

> to me that it was anxiety. She could not, but did not want to

change

> her diagnosis. I walked and found another doctor. That simple.

But I

> bet she will think twice before blaming the patient again.

>

> Doctors are no different than the rest of us. Believe me. I see

> similar behaviors in computer 'experts' all the time. When in

doubt,

> blame the customer. When in doubt, assume the client is

incompetent.

> When in doubt ... And you know what? I confront them all the time.

> And I also see more male customers confront us when someone pulls

such a

> maneuver on them.

>

> So, get off it! Doctors are people too. If you don't want them to

act

> as if they are on a pedestal, don't treat them that way.

>

> Regards,

> =jbf=

>

> B. Fisher

May 25, 2002