Re: Eating Idea's... thoughts....

[Guest guest]

One of the best things I learned from my dieting classes was " environmental

control. " If it ain't in the house at night, chances are I'm not going to

leave the house to get it. I realize with kids, this might be a bit of a

problem, but I'm not sure how " real " of a problem it is. When I was an

overweight kid, my Mom commented that I wasn't getting fat on what she was

giving me at home. Kids can always find good junk if they want it.

But, I could never, ever resist cookies that were actually in my house.

That's asking too much. That's the only part I can really relate to......

If I buy cheese at the store, I buy a piece knowing it's going to be

*completely* consumed in only 2 days.

Just my $.02

in Austin

RNY April 1998

Eating Idea's... thoughts....

[Guest guest]

One of the best things I learned from my dieting classes was " environmental

control. " If it ain't in the house at night, chances are I'm not going to

leave the house to get it. I realize with kids, this might be a bit of a

problem, but I'm not sure how " real " of a problem it is. When I was an

overweight kid, my Mom commented that I wasn't getting fat on what she was

giving me at home. Kids can always find good junk if they want it.

But, I could never, ever resist cookies that were actually in my house.

That's asking too much. That's the only part I can really relate to......

If I buy cheese at the store, I buy a piece knowing it's going to be

*completely* consumed in only 2 days.

Just my $.02

in Austin

RNY April 1998

Eating Idea's... thoughts....

[Guest guest]

One of the best things I learned from my dieting classes was " environmental

control. " If it ain't in the house at night, chances are I'm not going to

leave the house to get it. I realize with kids, this might be a bit of a

problem, but I'm not sure how " real " of a problem it is. When I was an

overweight kid, my Mom commented that I wasn't getting fat on what she was

giving me at home. Kids can always find good junk if they want it.

But, I could never, ever resist cookies that were actually in my house.

That's asking too much. That's the only part I can really relate to......

If I buy cheese at the store, I buy a piece knowing it's going to be

*completely* consumed in only 2 days.

Just my $.02

in Austin

RNY April 1998

Eating Idea's... thoughts....

[Guest guest]

I fill my house with every food I love and whatever my family wants

as well. Don't label it good or bad . . .In the beginning there was

lots of junk and I ate it too. After time I gradually moved away from

foods that didn't make me feel energized, light and energetic. I

don't eat much junk because it doesn't help me feel good. I even

learned to quit saving food for later as I only like freshly made

food or home leftovers. I am almost 4 years post op and getting

over the junk and eating it in spite of feeling bad took a couple of

years . . .2 1/2 to be exact. As soon as I got over the junk, the

last 20 pounds fell off and that was after my 3 year anniversary. I

realize this isn't average or common. It did work for me because I

am such a rebel and rule breaker therefore I made none. BTW, I

naturally eat more protein and fresh veggies, some fruit, very few

carbs . . . and , it would have been easier without kids, cause

half the stuff I had to learn to dislike was there for them!

) Vicki

> One of the best things I learned from my dieting classes

was " environmental

> control. " If it ain't in the house at night, chances are I'm not

going to

> leave the house to get it. I realize with kids, this might be a

bit of a

> problem, but I'm not sure how " real " of a problem it is. When I

was an

> overweight kid, my Mom commented that I wasn't getting fat on what

she was

> giving me at home. Kids can always find good junk if they want it.

> But, I could never, ever resist cookies that were actually in my

house.

> That's asking too much. That's the only part I can really relate

to......

> If I buy cheese at the store, I buy a piece knowing it's going to be

> *completely* consumed in only 2 days.

>

[Guest guest]

I fill my house with every food I love and whatever my family wants

as well. Don't label it good or bad . . .In the beginning there was

lots of junk and I ate it too. After time I gradually moved away from

foods that didn't make me feel energized, light and energetic. I

don't eat much junk because it doesn't help me feel good. I even

learned to quit saving food for later as I only like freshly made

food or home leftovers. I am almost 4 years post op and getting

over the junk and eating it in spite of feeling bad took a couple of

years . . .2 1/2 to be exact. As soon as I got over the junk, the

last 20 pounds fell off and that was after my 3 year anniversary. I

realize this isn't average or common. It did work for me because I

am such a rebel and rule breaker therefore I made none. BTW, I

naturally eat more protein and fresh veggies, some fruit, very few

carbs . . . and , it would have been easier without kids, cause

half the stuff I had to learn to dislike was there for them!

) Vicki

> One of the best things I learned from my dieting classes

was " environmental

> control. " If it ain't in the house at night, chances are I'm not

going to

> leave the house to get it. I realize with kids, this might be a

bit of a

> problem, but I'm not sure how " real " of a problem it is. When I

was an

> overweight kid, my Mom commented that I wasn't getting fat on what

she was

> giving me at home. Kids can always find good junk if they want it.

> But, I could never, ever resist cookies that were actually in my

house.

> That's asking too much. That's the only part I can really relate

to......

> If I buy cheese at the store, I buy a piece knowing it's going to be

> *completely* consumed in only 2 days.

>

[Guest guest]

I fill my house with every food I love and whatever my family wants

as well. Don't label it good or bad . . .In the beginning there was

lots of junk and I ate it too. After time I gradually moved away from

foods that didn't make me feel energized, light and energetic. I

don't eat much junk because it doesn't help me feel good. I even

learned to quit saving food for later as I only like freshly made

food or home leftovers. I am almost 4 years post op and getting

over the junk and eating it in spite of feeling bad took a couple of

years . . .2 1/2 to be exact. As soon as I got over the junk, the

last 20 pounds fell off and that was after my 3 year anniversary. I

realize this isn't average or common. It did work for me because I

am such a rebel and rule breaker therefore I made none. BTW, I

naturally eat more protein and fresh veggies, some fruit, very few

carbs . . . and , it would have been easier without kids, cause

half the stuff I had to learn to dislike was there for them!

) Vicki

> One of the best things I learned from my dieting classes

was " environmental

> control. " If it ain't in the house at night, chances are I'm not

going to

> leave the house to get it. I realize with kids, this might be a

bit of a

> problem, but I'm not sure how " real " of a problem it is. When I

was an

> overweight kid, my Mom commented that I wasn't getting fat on what

she was

> giving me at home. Kids can always find good junk if they want it.

> But, I could never, ever resist cookies that were actually in my

house.

> That's asking too much. That's the only part I can really relate

to......

> If I buy cheese at the store, I buy a piece knowing it's going to be

> *completely* consumed in only 2 days.

>

[Guest guest]

And I want something to chew with my protein shakes sometimes so if

you find a " free " , crunchy, chewy, food please share. I have been

really good about the no eating and drinking thing but there are just

times that I really, really want to chew with the shake (no, not

lumps in the shake. I can't do the hairy prevert thing yet!).

Carrots are sometimes the thing that I think the most about but I

admit that sometimes it's biscotti or shortbread and I really don't

even like sweets.

Alice

The Loon

RNY 12/28/00

.....hot tea or hot coffee " break " I want something to eat with my

> tea/coffee -- obviously, anything I eat with a drink is going to

wash right through but the only things that come to mind are

like " coffee cake " stuff and that is SO NOT going to happen -- yet, I

want that chew thing going on and I want to pay no calorie costs for

it...

hugz,

~denise

[Guest guest]

,

When did you have your surgery? How much have you lost? Regained? Where are

you now?

se

In a message dated 10/4/02 6:11:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

datwell@... writes:

>

>

> Hey Gang,

> I'm attempting to gather some ideas / thoughts / theory's / on how the

> " out

> of control " eating goes on... so, I'm going to share and ask for feedback

> about what y'all think.

>

> 1.) I tend to think about food when I am in an eating area (kitchen, dining

> room, living room) but, if I'm in a place I don't eat (bed room) then I

> don't think about food. So, if I'm obsessing about food, grab a " curl up

> book " and go to my room for quiet time and a read... gardening my hands are

> dirty so I can't eat... cleaning out my closet, drawers or painting on

> canvas my hands are busy or I'm in an inappropriate place to eat.... go for

> a leisure walk. (please feel free to add your ideas here)

>

> 2.) Today I obsessed about a bag of cookies on the counter -- so, in my mind

> I built up the whole " how great that chocolate chip cookie must taste... "

> For about 2 hours I just yummed out in my head how great the cookie must

> be..... finally, I took one, bite and was able to spit it out, throw out the

> cookie -- it just did NOT taste like I had imagined

>

> 3.) I've been " night feeding " lately -- really wanting food after my little

> one is in bed, the day has " de-stressed " and I'm ready to dig into some

> FOOD!!! To " ready " myself, I prepare a " food " and have it in the fridge,

> ready to zap in the microwave and eat.

> Now this sounds like a lot of work (and I'm lazy) so I get a lean

> quezine

> (sp?) take out the meat portion (Salisbury steak, meat loaf, whatever) put

> it on a plate so IF I'm going to " night feed " then I'm going to eat what I

> " planned " to eat PLUS I have to get out of bed, sit at the breakfast table

> and eat that (I was eating a grilled cheese in bed and gaining weight

> steadily.)

> SO, no food is allowed in bed except SF popsicles and if I want to

> " night

> feed " I have to: Get out of bed, zap it, sit at the table, eat it and only

> eat what I have " planned for " in advance...

> OR

> I can have a shake in bed if I just don't want to go through all the

> above

> for something that doesn't taste nearly as good.

>

> 4.) This one I haven't gotten worked out at all so suggestions are SO

> welcome -- hot tea or hot coffee " break " I want something to eat with my

> tea/coffee -- obviously, anything I eat with a drink is going to wash right

> through but the only things that come to mind are like " coffee cake " stuff

> and that is SO NOT going to happen -- yet, I want that chew thing going on

> and I want to pay no calorie costs for it... LOL.... (yeah, I want to win

> the lotto too!!!) Any idea's for that one? (the coffee break, not the

> lotto...)

>

> 5.) I've started putting all my " portioned food " into my small containers so

> I have a " grip " on how much is the right amount -- plus I put the " timer "

> back on myself to be sure and eat a little and often enough to not get

> HUNGRY... but to stay " steady "

>

> Any other ideas?

>

> hugz,

>

[Guest guest]

> ,

> When did you have your surgery? How much have you lost? Regained? Where

are you now?

> se

Open RnY (proximal, 12 " ) Lost 140 lbs to 120 lbs, maintained for about 15

months, had an eating binge and gained about 14 lbs, the needle is edging

down to a loss of 5 lbs so I'm still over at 9lbs and trying to let it come

off naturally by getting my eating / shake / habits back under control as

well as my water and exercise along with lowering my daily stress level

(that's been the hard part.. stress) I'm 5' 6 " , wear a 4 in most stuff (was

a 26) my 2 year blood work was good except my iron was high -- will retest

in 4 months to check the iron thing. My DEXA was average for 41 yr old woman

(not menopausal)

I think I began the struggle and slipped into the bad habits when

Kindergarten started and pre-that time... mostly stress related and I tried

to switch protein brands and began adding stuff to them (sf puddings and

such -- big mistake for me)

Anyway, I've got it back on-track now, things back under control and doing

what works for me -- My purpose in the e-mail was to " see " for myself in

writing some of the changes I've had to make to keep myself from getting

into trouble again and to see others ideas on what they do to help them stay

on-track...

last time I weighed I'm still 9lbs over my goal, jeans are still fitting

really tight (which beats a couple of weeks ago when they didn't zip at

all...)

My " life " goal is 2 part -- optimal health and good habits -- and learning

to be " steady " ... staying one size (not the up and down of the past) staying

satisfied... not full, not hungry... just in the middle... not incorporating

any drastic measures (the temptation now / or the thought process... is to

loose an extra 5lbs so I can gain it back over the winter months without

worry.... BAD thoughts for me...) Just " staying " in one place and being

healthy doing it.

I'm looking a lot at the stress right now and attempting to get some of the

balls out of the air by completing projects and getting back to a manageable

zone... just part of the over all " steady " process in all things.

I think the word " balance " is what I'm striving for... what I wanted from

the start and what I want to keep -- balance.

hugz,

~denise