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In a message dated 10/4/02 12:47:39 PM Central Daylight Time,

sness@... writes:

<< The feeling of weakness etc, become so bad

that I end up reaching for whatever I can to combat the feeling I

experience and then the day ends up unsuccessful. >>

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Are you supplementing at all with protein shakes?

Carol A

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In a message dated 10/4/02 12:47:39 PM Central Daylight Time,

sness@... writes:

<< The feeling of weakness etc, become so bad

that I end up reaching for whatever I can to combat the feeling I

experience and then the day ends up unsuccessful. >>

------------------------------

Are you supplementing at all with protein shakes?

Carol A

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In a message dated 10/4/02 12:47:39 PM Central Daylight Time,

sness@... writes:

<< The feeling of weakness etc, become so bad

that I end up reaching for whatever I can to combat the feeling I

experience and then the day ends up unsuccessful. >>

------------------------------

Are you supplementing at all with protein shakes?

Carol A

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Hi ,

Where in PA are you? I am in Lansdale (burbs of Philly). I was having the

hypoglycemic problems as well. When I follow the Schwarzbein Principle (low

carbs - but good unrefined carbs) I do beautifully. The book is available in

any bookstore.

Marjie

" crazymomof2kids " sness@...> wrote:

>Hello Everyone

>

>I had an RNY in November 2000.  Since then I have lost 110 lbs.

>however, I have gained 20 of that back this past year.  I know that I

>am taking in too many carbs and munching on all kinds of things that

>I shouldn't.  Now that I am ready to get my act together my body is

>not cooperating.  I begin each day with thoughts of changing my

>habits and I start off great.  I am walking everyday and taking my

>vitamins.   About half way through the day I start with symptoms of

>Reactive Hypoglycemia.  The feeling of weakness etc, become so bad

>that I end up reaching for whatever I can to combat the feeling I

>experience and then the day ends up unsuccessful.  Has enyone else

>suffered from a similar situation and if you have what did you do to

>overcome it so that you can gain control and lose the extra pounds?  

>Any and all thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

>

> in PA  

>

>

>

>Homepage:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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Hi ,

Where in PA are you? I am in Lansdale (burbs of Philly). I was having the

hypoglycemic problems as well. When I follow the Schwarzbein Principle (low

carbs - but good unrefined carbs) I do beautifully. The book is available in

any bookstore.

Marjie

" crazymomof2kids " sness@...> wrote:

>Hello Everyone

>

>I had an RNY in November 2000.  Since then I have lost 110 lbs.

>however, I have gained 20 of that back this past year.  I know that I

>am taking in too many carbs and munching on all kinds of things that

>I shouldn't.  Now that I am ready to get my act together my body is

>not cooperating.  I begin each day with thoughts of changing my

>habits and I start off great.  I am walking everyday and taking my

>vitamins.   About half way through the day I start with symptoms of

>Reactive Hypoglycemia.  The feeling of weakness etc, become so bad

>that I end up reaching for whatever I can to combat the feeling I

>experience and then the day ends up unsuccessful.  Has enyone else

>suffered from a similar situation and if you have what did you do to

>overcome it so that you can gain control and lose the extra pounds?  

>Any and all thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

>

> in PA  

>

>

>

>Homepage:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

>Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi ,

Where in PA are you? I am in Lansdale (burbs of Philly). I was having the

hypoglycemic problems as well. When I follow the Schwarzbein Principle (low

carbs - but good unrefined carbs) I do beautifully. The book is available in

any bookstore.

Marjie

" crazymomof2kids " sness@...> wrote:

>Hello Everyone

>

>I had an RNY in November 2000.  Since then I have lost 110 lbs.

>however, I have gained 20 of that back this past year.  I know that I

>am taking in too many carbs and munching on all kinds of things that

>I shouldn't.  Now that I am ready to get my act together my body is

>not cooperating.  I begin each day with thoughts of changing my

>habits and I start off great.  I am walking everyday and taking my

>vitamins.   About half way through the day I start with symptoms of

>Reactive Hypoglycemia.  The feeling of weakness etc, become so bad

>that I end up reaching for whatever I can to combat the feeling I

>experience and then the day ends up unsuccessful.  Has enyone else

>suffered from a similar situation and if you have what did you do to

>overcome it so that you can gain control and lose the extra pounds?  

>Any and all thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

>

> in PA  

>

>

>

>Homepage:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

>Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

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Hi, I'm wondering if you've had your hypoglycemia diagnosed by the

doctor -- if not, please read that url I listed as so many " things " can

cause the symptoms so to me... the first line of action would be to get a

proper diagnoses (click below)

http://my.webmd.com/encyclopedia/article/1667.53922

Until then though -- and if this is a temporary thing (I had about a 3

month stage of the extreme symptoms) and I found the " grab what I can to

combat the feeling... " was a bad thing for me -- since I " knew " I was going

to get the symptoms one or more times a day I planned ahead and provided

" grabbing " foods for myself -- usually in the form of fruit which works

slower than fruit juices but has less sugar and less possibility of setting

me up for carb / sugar cravings later in the day -- If it was a banana, I

cut off about 2 inches and threw the rest away -- an orange, 2 slices and

throw the rest away or store it in 2/3 slices per baggie in the fridge --

these take much longer to " act " than a bite of candy but provided a much

more stable rise in blood sugar so I also didn't get the post-sugar crash

that made me just want more sugar to combat the crash.

If I woke up in the middle of the night with it, cold sweating, tremors,

shaking, weak, dizzy -- I'd pour about an ounce of OJ to an ounce of water

and drink that and lay back down.

I think, for me, planning ahead was critical in making better choices of

what I " grabbed " for to combat the symptoms -- If I planned ahead I had

something healthy to grab -- if I didn't then I'd easily grab a cookie or

other quick fix that sent my whole day into the sugar spiral downwards.

>>About half way through the day I start with symptoms of Reactive

Hypoglycemia. The feeling of weakness etc, become so bad that I end up

reaching for whatever I can to combat the feeling<<<

One of my (what I ended up with) is grabbing a protein shake -- some time's

guzzling it but *shrug* it worked and didn't / doesn't / set me up for the

carb / sugar / cravings the rest of the day. If / when / that isn't possible

how about a protein bar? A hand full of granola or other fiber?

Plan ahead -- you know the crash is coming just be ready for it with YOUR

choices so your in control and your body isn't controlling you -- I still

keep the protein bar in my purse just in case it happens and I'm not home or

near a good food supply...

I also found that dehydration -- not enough water -- symptoms are very much

like low blood sugar symptoms so I do try to down a glass of water first --

then eat the PLANNED thing and wait it out.

Doing it that way helps me to stay in control of my choices BUT NONE OF IT

replaces what your doctor should diagnose FIRST -- and that is the " cause "

of your hypoglosimic symptoms.

Hope this helps --

hugz,

~denise

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Hi, I'm wondering if you've had your hypoglycemia diagnosed by the

doctor -- if not, please read that url I listed as so many " things " can

cause the symptoms so to me... the first line of action would be to get a

proper diagnoses (click below)

http://my.webmd.com/encyclopedia/article/1667.53922

Until then though -- and if this is a temporary thing (I had about a 3

month stage of the extreme symptoms) and I found the " grab what I can to

combat the feeling... " was a bad thing for me -- since I " knew " I was going

to get the symptoms one or more times a day I planned ahead and provided

" grabbing " foods for myself -- usually in the form of fruit which works

slower than fruit juices but has less sugar and less possibility of setting

me up for carb / sugar cravings later in the day -- If it was a banana, I

cut off about 2 inches and threw the rest away -- an orange, 2 slices and

throw the rest away or store it in 2/3 slices per baggie in the fridge --

these take much longer to " act " than a bite of candy but provided a much

more stable rise in blood sugar so I also didn't get the post-sugar crash

that made me just want more sugar to combat the crash.

If I woke up in the middle of the night with it, cold sweating, tremors,

shaking, weak, dizzy -- I'd pour about an ounce of OJ to an ounce of water

and drink that and lay back down.

I think, for me, planning ahead was critical in making better choices of

what I " grabbed " for to combat the symptoms -- If I planned ahead I had

something healthy to grab -- if I didn't then I'd easily grab a cookie or

other quick fix that sent my whole day into the sugar spiral downwards.

>>About half way through the day I start with symptoms of Reactive

Hypoglycemia. The feeling of weakness etc, become so bad that I end up

reaching for whatever I can to combat the feeling<<<

One of my (what I ended up with) is grabbing a protein shake -- some time's

guzzling it but *shrug* it worked and didn't / doesn't / set me up for the

carb / sugar / cravings the rest of the day. If / when / that isn't possible

how about a protein bar? A hand full of granola or other fiber?

Plan ahead -- you know the crash is coming just be ready for it with YOUR

choices so your in control and your body isn't controlling you -- I still

keep the protein bar in my purse just in case it happens and I'm not home or

near a good food supply...

I also found that dehydration -- not enough water -- symptoms are very much

like low blood sugar symptoms so I do try to down a glass of water first --

then eat the PLANNED thing and wait it out.

Doing it that way helps me to stay in control of my choices BUT NONE OF IT

replaces what your doctor should diagnose FIRST -- and that is the " cause "

of your hypoglosimic symptoms.

Hope this helps --

hugz,

~denise

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Hi, I'm wondering if you've had your hypoglycemia diagnosed by the

doctor -- if not, please read that url I listed as so many " things " can

cause the symptoms so to me... the first line of action would be to get a

proper diagnoses (click below)

http://my.webmd.com/encyclopedia/article/1667.53922

Until then though -- and if this is a temporary thing (I had about a 3

month stage of the extreme symptoms) and I found the " grab what I can to

combat the feeling... " was a bad thing for me -- since I " knew " I was going

to get the symptoms one or more times a day I planned ahead and provided

" grabbing " foods for myself -- usually in the form of fruit which works

slower than fruit juices but has less sugar and less possibility of setting

me up for carb / sugar cravings later in the day -- If it was a banana, I

cut off about 2 inches and threw the rest away -- an orange, 2 slices and

throw the rest away or store it in 2/3 slices per baggie in the fridge --

these take much longer to " act " than a bite of candy but provided a much

more stable rise in blood sugar so I also didn't get the post-sugar crash

that made me just want more sugar to combat the crash.

If I woke up in the middle of the night with it, cold sweating, tremors,

shaking, weak, dizzy -- I'd pour about an ounce of OJ to an ounce of water

and drink that and lay back down.

I think, for me, planning ahead was critical in making better choices of

what I " grabbed " for to combat the symptoms -- If I planned ahead I had

something healthy to grab -- if I didn't then I'd easily grab a cookie or

other quick fix that sent my whole day into the sugar spiral downwards.

>>About half way through the day I start with symptoms of Reactive

Hypoglycemia. The feeling of weakness etc, become so bad that I end up

reaching for whatever I can to combat the feeling<<<

One of my (what I ended up with) is grabbing a protein shake -- some time's

guzzling it but *shrug* it worked and didn't / doesn't / set me up for the

carb / sugar / cravings the rest of the day. If / when / that isn't possible

how about a protein bar? A hand full of granola or other fiber?

Plan ahead -- you know the crash is coming just be ready for it with YOUR

choices so your in control and your body isn't controlling you -- I still

keep the protein bar in my purse just in case it happens and I'm not home or

near a good food supply...

I also found that dehydration -- not enough water -- symptoms are very much

like low blood sugar symptoms so I do try to down a glass of water first --

then eat the PLANNED thing and wait it out.

Doing it that way helps me to stay in control of my choices BUT NONE OF IT

replaces what your doctor should diagnose FIRST -- and that is the " cause "

of your hypoglosimic symptoms.

Hope this helps --

hugz,

~denise

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I think many of us have experienced what you are going through. I lost

200 pounds and regained 20 this past year. I go through periods,

alternating with feeling out-of-control, eating mega-carbs and gaining

with exercise, sanity, and healthy eating. What I've been told, and

have found works, is: get yourself totally off simple carbs [pasta,

rice, potato, breads that aren't whole grain] and sugar. It's hard, and

like an addict, I feel myself go through withdrawal the first three

days. Drink water non-stop. Eat mostly protein [good to start the day

with a protein shake]. Try to increase exercise. If I can get myself

past day three of this plan, it gets easier, Keep reading and posting

on this board. I start feeling better, and I lose back some of what I

gained.

I thought that at almost three years out it would get easier, but it

hasn't. I need to make my health the focus of my days. I need to plan

time into a crazy schedule for the gym, for walks, for cooking healthy

foods to bring for lunch. But the trade-off is that most of the time I

feel great. And today I wore size 8 Ralph pants........

Helene

RNY 12/22/99

35-/170

crazymomof2kids wrote:

>Hello Everyone

>

>I had an RNY in November 2000. Since then I have lost 110 lbs.

>however, I have gained 20 of that back this past year. I know that I

>am taking in too many carbs and munching on all kinds of things that

>I shouldn't. Now that I am ready to get my act together my body is

>not cooperating. I begin each day with thoughts of changing my

>habits and I start off great. I am walking everyday and taking my

>vitamins. About half way through the day I start with symptoms of

>Reactive Hypoglycemia. The feeling of weakness etc, become so bad

>that I end up reaching for whatever I can to combat the feeling I

>experience and then the day ends up unsuccessful. Has enyone else

>suffered from a similar situation and if you have what did you do to

>overcome it so that you can gain control and lose the extra pounds?

>Any and all thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

>

> in PA

>

>

>

>Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

>Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

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>

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I think many of us have experienced what you are going through. I lost

200 pounds and regained 20 this past year. I go through periods,

alternating with feeling out-of-control, eating mega-carbs and gaining

with exercise, sanity, and healthy eating. What I've been told, and

have found works, is: get yourself totally off simple carbs [pasta,

rice, potato, breads that aren't whole grain] and sugar. It's hard, and

like an addict, I feel myself go through withdrawal the first three

days. Drink water non-stop. Eat mostly protein [good to start the day

with a protein shake]. Try to increase exercise. If I can get myself

past day three of this plan, it gets easier, Keep reading and posting

on this board. I start feeling better, and I lose back some of what I

gained.

I thought that at almost three years out it would get easier, but it

hasn't. I need to make my health the focus of my days. I need to plan

time into a crazy schedule for the gym, for walks, for cooking healthy

foods to bring for lunch. But the trade-off is that most of the time I

feel great. And today I wore size 8 Ralph pants........

Helene

RNY 12/22/99

35-/170

crazymomof2kids wrote:

>Hello Everyone

>

>I had an RNY in November 2000. Since then I have lost 110 lbs.

>however, I have gained 20 of that back this past year. I know that I

>am taking in too many carbs and munching on all kinds of things that

>I shouldn't. Now that I am ready to get my act together my body is

>not cooperating. I begin each day with thoughts of changing my

>habits and I start off great. I am walking everyday and taking my

>vitamins. About half way through the day I start with symptoms of

>Reactive Hypoglycemia. The feeling of weakness etc, become so bad

>that I end up reaching for whatever I can to combat the feeling I

>experience and then the day ends up unsuccessful. Has enyone else

>suffered from a similar situation and if you have what did you do to

>overcome it so that you can gain control and lose the extra pounds?

>Any and all thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

>

> in PA

>

>

>

>Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

>Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

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>

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In a message dated Fri, 4 Oct 2002 5:30:38 AM Eastern Standard Time,

sness@... writes:

> I begin each day with thoughts of changing my

> habits and I start off great. I am walking everyday and taking my

> vitamins. About half way through the day I start with

> symptoms of

> Reactive Hypoglycemia.

You have the same symptoms I had when I had severe anemia and protein

malnutrition. Have you had your labs checked lately? How many " mini " meals are

you eating a day? You need to eat more often and do protein shakes, in my

opinion.

B

Distal RNY 12/95

275/155

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You have to look very hard for unrefined carbs, but sometimes it's worth it.

I get " woven wheat " crackers at Whole Foods Market for my salty, crunchy

fix. Nothing in them but " whole wheat " and salt. No dye just to make them

look brown and healthy.

in Austin

RNY April 1998

RE: getting my act together once again

> Hi ,

> Where in PA are you? I am in Lansdale (burbs of Philly). I was having

the hypoglycemic problems as well. When I follow the Schwarzbein Principle

(low carbs - but good unrefined carbs) I do beautifully. The book is

available in any bookstore.

>

> Marjie

>

>

> " crazymomof2kids " sness@...> wrote:

>

> >Hello Everyone

> >

> >I had an RNY in November 2000. Since then I have lost 110 lbs.

> >however, I have gained 20 of that back this past year. I know that I

> >am taking in too many carbs and munching on all kinds of things that

> >I shouldn't. Now that I am ready to get my act together my body is

> >not cooperating. I begin each day with thoughts of changing my

> >habits and I start off great. I am walking everyday and taking my

> >vitamins. About half way through the day I start with symptoms of

> >Reactive Hypoglycemia. The feeling of weakness etc, become so bad

> >that I end up reaching for whatever I can to combat the feeling I

> >experience and then the day ends up unsuccessful. Has enyone else

> >suffered from a similar situation and if you have what did you do to

> >overcome it so that you can gain control and lose the extra pounds?

> >Any and all thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > in PA

> >

> >

> >

> >Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> >Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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You have to look very hard for unrefined carbs, but sometimes it's worth it.

I get " woven wheat " crackers at Whole Foods Market for my salty, crunchy

fix. Nothing in them but " whole wheat " and salt. No dye just to make them

look brown and healthy.

in Austin

RNY April 1998

RE: getting my act together once again

> Hi ,

> Where in PA are you? I am in Lansdale (burbs of Philly). I was having

the hypoglycemic problems as well. When I follow the Schwarzbein Principle

(low carbs - but good unrefined carbs) I do beautifully. The book is

available in any bookstore.

>

> Marjie

>

>

> " crazymomof2kids " sness@...> wrote:

>

> >Hello Everyone

> >

> >I had an RNY in November 2000. Since then I have lost 110 lbs.

> >however, I have gained 20 of that back this past year. I know that I

> >am taking in too many carbs and munching on all kinds of things that

> >I shouldn't. Now that I am ready to get my act together my body is

> >not cooperating. I begin each day with thoughts of changing my

> >habits and I start off great. I am walking everyday and taking my

> >vitamins. About half way through the day I start with symptoms of

> >Reactive Hypoglycemia. The feeling of weakness etc, become so bad

> >that I end up reaching for whatever I can to combat the feeling I

> >experience and then the day ends up unsuccessful. Has enyone else

> >suffered from a similar situation and if you have what did you do to

> >overcome it so that you can gain control and lose the extra pounds?

> >Any and all thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > in PA

> >

> >

> >

> >Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> >Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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You have to look very hard for unrefined carbs, but sometimes it's worth it.

I get " woven wheat " crackers at Whole Foods Market for my salty, crunchy

fix. Nothing in them but " whole wheat " and salt. No dye just to make them

look brown and healthy.

in Austin

RNY April 1998

RE: getting my act together once again

> Hi ,

> Where in PA are you? I am in Lansdale (burbs of Philly). I was having

the hypoglycemic problems as well. When I follow the Schwarzbein Principle

(low carbs - but good unrefined carbs) I do beautifully. The book is

available in any bookstore.

>

> Marjie

>

>

> " crazymomof2kids " sness@...> wrote:

>

> >Hello Everyone

> >

> >I had an RNY in November 2000. Since then I have lost 110 lbs.

> >however, I have gained 20 of that back this past year. I know that I

> >am taking in too many carbs and munching on all kinds of things that

> >I shouldn't. Now that I am ready to get my act together my body is

> >not cooperating. I begin each day with thoughts of changing my

> >habits and I start off great. I am walking everyday and taking my

> >vitamins. About half way through the day I start with symptoms of

> >Reactive Hypoglycemia. The feeling of weakness etc, become so bad

> >that I end up reaching for whatever I can to combat the feeling I

> >experience and then the day ends up unsuccessful. Has enyone else

> >suffered from a similar situation and if you have what did you do to

> >overcome it so that you can gain control and lose the extra pounds?

> >Any and all thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > in PA

> >

> >

> >

> >Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> >Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I too have had to combat hypoglycemia. Mine usually bottoms out if I eat

something too high in carbs.... Like a bunch of chips. It happens about 6

out of 10 times. It also happens if I drink a protein shake. I've had to cut

them out completely.... and I so loved 'em. If I have three meals a day, I'm

usually okay, unless the meal is too high in carbs.

Randy

rlogle@...

www.geocities.com/rogle32/

AIM: rlogleeln

Open RNY: Sept. 26, 2001: 195 lbs gone.

Daddy to Doogun, Jasper, and Zoe.

Lord, Please help me to become the Person

my Dog's think I am.

RE: getting my act together once again

> Hi, I'm wondering if you've had your hypoglycemia diagnosed by the

> doctor -- if not, please read that url I listed as so many " things " can

> cause the symptoms so to me... the first line of action would be to get a

> proper diagnoses (click below)

> http://my.webmd.com/encyclopedia/article/1667.53922

>

> Until then though -- and if this is a temporary thing (I had about a 3

> month stage of the extreme symptoms) and I found the " grab what I can to

> combat the feeling... " was a bad thing for me -- since I " knew " I was

going

> to get the symptoms one or more times a day I planned ahead and provided

> " grabbing " foods for myself -- usually in the form of fruit which works

> slower than fruit juices but has less sugar and less possibility of

setting

> me up for carb / sugar cravings later in the day -- If it was a banana, I

> cut off about 2 inches and threw the rest away -- an orange, 2 slices and

> throw the rest away or store it in 2/3 slices per baggie in the fridge --

> these take much longer to " act " than a bite of candy but provided a much

> more stable rise in blood sugar so I also didn't get the post-sugar crash

> that made me just want more sugar to combat the crash.

> If I woke up in the middle of the night with it, cold sweating, tremors,

> shaking, weak, dizzy -- I'd pour about an ounce of OJ to an ounce of water

> and drink that and lay back down.

>

> I think, for me, planning ahead was critical in making better choices of

> what I " grabbed " for to combat the symptoms -- If I planned ahead I had

> something healthy to grab -- if I didn't then I'd easily grab a cookie or

> other quick fix that sent my whole day into the sugar spiral downwards.

>

> >>About half way through the day I start with symptoms of Reactive

> Hypoglycemia. The feeling of weakness etc, become so bad that I end up

> reaching for whatever I can to combat the feeling<<<

>

> One of my (what I ended up with) is grabbing a protein shake -- some

time's

> guzzling it but *shrug* it worked and didn't / doesn't / set me up for the

> carb / sugar / cravings the rest of the day. If / when / that isn't

possible

> how about a protein bar? A hand full of granola or other fiber?

>

> Plan ahead -- you know the crash is coming just be ready for it with YOUR

> choices so your in control and your body isn't controlling you -- I still

> keep the protein bar in my purse just in case it happens and I'm not home

or

> near a good food supply...

> I also found that dehydration -- not enough water -- symptoms are very

much

> like low blood sugar symptoms so I do try to down a glass of water

first --

> then eat the PLANNED thing and wait it out.

>

> Doing it that way helps me to stay in control of my choices BUT NONE OF IT

> replaces what your doctor should diagnose FIRST -- and that is the " cause "

> of your hypoglosimic symptoms.

>

> Hope this helps --

> hugz,

> ~denise

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

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