Re: The chicken or the egg?????HELP

[Guest guest]

Rose,

Yes, a rare bird indeed, a cadmium turkey. But you give good hugs

) You have to stop eating off those aluminum and cadmium coated

plates. Sorry, I have never heard of anything like that. Are

you eating your chain link fence? Now I do know some West Virginians

who have one leg shorter than the other from walking around the mountaian

in the same direction all the time )

Take care thorny Rose

Hugs, Bill

[Guest guest]

Rose,

Wow! Sounds like you really are baffling the docs -- even more than

most MSA patients. I don't know much about all this, but I do

remember that high levels of heavy metals in the body can cause a

myriad of neurological problems, so if I had to guess (and that's ALL

this is) I'd say the metals are the chicken and the MSA-type symptoms

are the egg. There is a doctor at NIH that was looking for patients

with high serum feretin levels wtih MSA-type symptoms for a study she

is doing. She might be of some help -- I don't remember her name but

I'll bet Bill does. (Rob's tests for serum feretin were normal.)

Carol & Rob

> Hi Gang,

> Many of you know me and know I don't post a lot because I don't

feel

> qualified (unless its for group support). I need to ask if anyone

has

> had experiences with/or knowledge of unusual blood test results. I

am

> only DX'd so far with Orthosatic Hypotension w/autonomic problems.

I

> do have many other

> symptoms>> neuropathy, spasms w/ twitching, poor gait, balance

> problems, low body temps,etc etc.I have been having numerous

stomach

> problems and test show gall bladder, thyroid, liver, pancreas, and

> kidney problems. The wonderful gastro doc and my neuro have been

> working to try and DX me while treating my symptoms. This included

a

> battery of test with numerous abnormal results.(We expected some of

> them). The most baffling are the latest blood test. Too low insulin

> on fasting> ( I believe I have read that is a problem with some

here).

> Many high levels of unusual metals, cadmium and aluminum are the

most

> prominate. I saw a specailist for this Thursday, and he said he

> thought it was a joke (fake test from my doc)because the cadmium

> levels were so high, he has never heard of another living

> person 'ever' to have these levels. It is usually encountered in

> industrial accidents. At this point they are not sure

> if these toxins caused my medical problems OR if there could be a

> malfunctioning protein in me disabling my body to rid toxins. I

know

> this area is wayyyyy beyond most of us including my doctors.

However,

> it was suggested for me to ask this group if anyone else has

> encountered anything similar. Could be all of my problems stem from

> metal poisionings OR because of my autonomic problems my body cant

> get rid of toxins... So thus the " chicken or egg " . They are going

to

> try to set up a 'spring cleaning' for my blood to get the toxins

out.

> The doctor says I'm a rare bird. (LOL I know Bill is going to

comment

> on that). So surgery is on hold for the gall bladder until this is

> addressed.In hopes this is causing all the problems with my organs.

> Sorry for such a long post, but needed to explain details

> to post this question....... Thanks gang, w/ hugs... Rose