Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 Sue, thank you so much for posting this message. I live in constant fear of somehow going back to the life I had before. I planned on going on disability before I had a chance to retire. The description of the woman in the wheel chair is so frightening. I was almost there. What I hated most was seeing pity in the eyes of other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 >>> now she has to use one of those hover around (3 wheel personal carrier things) she is unable to walk & is missing all but 2 toes on her left foot).... For the first time I saw that life ! (but is it really life?) >>> two things this woman said that sorta struck home with me - the first just pointing out what disabilities the woman now has as the weight and medical condition has gotten out of control. and of course the fact of what is the quality of life. lately I have been really pondering/wondering/thinking about my current health and whether some of the problems I've had in the last four years are a direct result of wls or not. would they have happened anyhow? would I have needed my gallbladder removed? would I have osteoporosis? would I have needed my appendix removed? even my uterine health - if the estrogen stores in the fat cells had not been messed with.........? and of course the two adhesions surgeries - I can fairly accurately say I would not have adhesions if I had never had wls. the multitudes of vitamins and minerals and protein supplementation I consume. perhaps that would just be replaced with diabetes medicine and high blood pressure meds........ who knows? I was fairly healthy, other than my thyroid and a general discomfort with my weight, my labs looked good and I was considered healthy. I felt like it was just a matter of time though - the clock was ticking till ill health smacked me upside the head and took me down. my parents died in their late 50's and they were not obese. bad family genes. anyhow lately I've just been really thinking about all this and not that I would change a thing about the initial decision to have wls, but I wonder about all the things that have happened in the last 3yr. and whether any of that would have still happened or could have been prevented........... we really have no way of knowing what our future would have been - hovercraft and unable to walk or not....... I've seen malnourished wls patients in my docs office in wheelchairs too......... just thinking outloud..... sue guess I'm a little introspective with the empty nest ready to hit sunday when both kids head off to SC for college, wanting to move and change jobs as well. where's ceep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 And I hated the disgust in their faces & voices. As if I was subhuman, too stupid and too much of an eyesore to be allowed to live. Your post made me wonder if my own obsession with remaining at a comfortable wt for my feet & hips is, in fact, a form of PTSD. Facing your own mortality as you watch your _________ collapse (lungs, in my case) on a daily basis, but with the certainty of an oncoming train SURELY must be living on a daily stress level that is somewhat higher than when I was 25 & worried about having clean babies & a clean house by 5pm. Know what I mean? I'm certainly not minimizing your struggles or anyone else's! What other people have survived is WAY beyond anything I could have, I'm certain! The degree of stress or the interminability of it are not comparable person to person. Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Re: Remember when? > Sue, thank you so much for posting this message. I live in constant fear of > somehow going back to the life I had before. I planned on going on > disability before I had a chance to retire. The description of the woman in > the wheel chair is so frightening. I was almost there. What I hated most > was seeing pity in the eyes of other people. > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 Those thoughts have trickled across my mind from time to time. But I never get very far with them. Would I have osteoporosis? No. I'm sure of it. I would not have lived long enough, and since I was gaining.... no. Without this list I'd never have been tested, even if I'd lived a little longer. Would my sleep apnea have taken me out? Most likely, Has I survived, even with mechanized breath, what day would the diabetes have kicked in and to what degree & how fast? High BP, high cholesterol, squished joints, asthma (& more) and just think, I was in better shape than most, having only been morbid for about 5 yrs. I never get past the lungs thing. I had to make a conscious effort to take a deep breath. It didn't come automatically any more. And then, had I lived, would I have had the same issues I have today? Sooner? My ex is dead. He dies in 1996 at 49 of, basically, cholesterol. He had diabetes, high BP, at least 2 bouts with pancreatitis, and the whole litany. And he was ONLY 100# over! But he's dead! Not sick. Gone! It was 2 yrs after my surgery, He coulda. He had the right ins, the comorbs..... but he didn't. And he's gone. Just like that. No real warnings, just didn't wake up. When I think about the SURE things that were my future, I'm less inclined to whine about anything NOW, you know? At least I lived long enough to whine about wrinkles & gray hairs, right? Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Re: Remember when? > >>> now she has to use one of those hover around (3 wheel personal carrier > things) she is unable to walk & is missing all but 2 toes on her left > foot).... > For the first time I saw that life ! (but is it really life?) > >>> > > two things this woman said that sorta struck home with me - the first just > pointing out what disabilities the woman now has as the weight and medical > condition has gotten out of control. and of course the fact of what is the > quality of life. > lately I have been really pondering/wondering/thinking about my current > health and whether some of the problems I've had in the last four years are > a direct result of wls or not. would they have happened anyhow? would I have > needed my gallbladder removed? would I have osteoporosis? would I have > needed my appendix removed? even my uterine health - if the estrogen stores > in the fat cells had not been messed with.........? and of course the two > adhesions surgeries - I can fairly accurately say I would not have adhesions > if I had never had wls. the multitudes of vitamins and minerals and protein > supplementation I consume. perhaps that would just be replaced with > diabetes medicine and high blood pressure meds........ who knows? I was > fairly healthy, other than my thyroid and a general discomfort with my > weight, my labs looked good and I was considered healthy. I felt like it was > just a matter of time though - the clock was ticking till ill health smacked > me upside the head and took me down. my parents died in their late 50's and > they were not obese. bad family genes. > anyhow lately I've just been really thinking about all this and not that I > would change a thing about the initial decision to have wls, but I wonder > about all the things that have happened in the last 3yr. and whether any of > that would have still happened or could have been prevented........... > we really have no way of knowing what our future would have been - > hovercraft and unable to walk or not....... I've seen malnourished wls > patients in my docs office in wheelchairs too......... > > just thinking outloud..... > sue > guess I'm a little introspective with the empty nest ready to hit sunday > when both kids head off to SC for college, wanting to move and change jobs > as well. > where's ceep? > > > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 Sure as heck beats the alternative right.?..and all the rest is just moot...who really knows what woulda been? Regards~ Jacque > ? At least I lived long enough to whine > about wrinkles & gray hairs, right? > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 I think we are all, as people pretty adaptable. We adapt to whatever the environment is that we find ourselves...and most of us are survivors of one sort or another. Either we survive or we don't. Those of us who are alive and are of relatively sound mind are survivors...even those with the best of pasts going for them. Life is traumatic at it's very best. The brightest diamonds are formed under heat and pressure. I certainly hope when I'm a done deal, I will shine brightly. Thoughtfully~ Jacque > > And I hated the disgust in their faces & voices. As if I was subhuman, too > stupid and too much of an eyesore to be allowed to live. > > Your post made me wonder if my own obsession with remaining at a comfortable > wt for my feet & hips is, in fact, a form of PTSD. Facing your own > mortality as you watch your _________ collapse (lungs, in my case) on a > daily basis, but with the certainty of an oncoming train SURELY must be > living on a daily stress level that is somewhat higher than when I was 25 & > worried about having clean babies & a clean house by 5pm. Know what I mean? > > I'm certainly not minimizing your struggles or anyone else's! What other > people have survived is WAY beyond anything I could have, I'm certain! > > The degree of stress or the interminability of it are not comparable person > to person. > > > Thanks, > > > Vitalady T > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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