Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 In a message dated 11/04/2002 6:04:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, dr4kids2@... writes: > When I was about 2 and a half years old I was told, " regular " babies grow in > their mommy's tummies, but adopted babies grow in their mommy's hearts This is beautiful.. I had never heard this expression before, but you can be sure I will remember it always. Thank you, Doc Carolyn , for sharing such an inspirational story. Hugs, from GA open RNY 12/12/00 Revision 04/18/01 Revision 02/07/02 St wt.... 392 Cw.......187 Wt loss..-205 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 In a message dated 11/4/2002 7:00:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, dr4kids2@... writes: > When I was about 2 and a half years old I was told, " regular " babies grow in > their mommy's tummies, but adopted babies grow in their mommy's hearts. I > always loved that, and never forgot it. We were at the Catholic Charities > Office picking up my brother at the time. > doc carolyn ************************************** You guys are making me cry. Didn't Barbara Walters do a show on adoption called " Born in My Heart, " or something like that? in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 : I read your post and cried. Having been adopted by my mother at the age of 5 (biologically, I am my father's daughter, the product of an affair he had), I know first hand how fortunate your daughter is to have someone love her and make her part of a family. It took a lot of courage for my real mother to give me up (she moved back to Italy without me. Bringing an illegitimate child home to the family was something you didn't do 35 years ago) and for my adoptive mother to take me in. How blessed I was to have this wonderful woman love me like I was her own, when she surely must have harbored some mighty nasty thoughts about my father. I don't know many women, including myself, that would have been so selfless in that type of situation. Like you said, it's a personal choice. She chose to take care of me and raise me with love. Their marriage never made it though they tried, but when my dad left, she told him that I was staying with her. As a mother now, I look back and am truly amazed at what she did and what she went through for me. She passed away almost 9 years ago and because I didn't know all the details of my life, I never really got to tell her how much I truly, truly loved her and appreciated all that she did for me. I tell her now in my own way. I wish you much joy and happiness with your new daughter. May you all have many years of happiness together. Best wishes, Regina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 Dear Regina, I think their must be something very special about adopted children ~smile~ by no design of my own my longest term best friend is adopted and my favorite daughter in law is adopted and now my favorite little girl is adopted ~smile~ and you have always been such a wonderful voice of calm and loving sharing to this group and your adopted -- so, you all are pretty darned special too {{{ big hugs }}} It is awesome what your mom did... truly a woman with a huge heart and a great deal of confidence (a better person than I) to do what she did and do such a wonderful job at it too! luv ya ~denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 and any other " birth moms " , I never would have guessed that on the grad list I would have been blessed to be given the opportunity to do something that I have wanted all my life to do and never been given the opportunity. I was adopted at birth by a wonderful family. I was placed for adoption by an even more wonderful 16 year old young lady who had to have loved me more than I can imagine. I have always wanted to find her and write her a letter. In it I would tell her thank you for giving me life, something that was not easy in 1960 at 16 years old. Second, I was, and am, happy and have had a good family, because I would always wonder, if I had given a child up, if I had done the right thing, was my child happy. Thirdly, I would ask if I loved softball and athletics because she did, and things like that. Next I would tell her I loved her, very much, and that the enclosed, sealed envelope contained information about me and my family; and that I realized she had gone on with her life and I didn't want to interfere with it. If she wanted to contact me, she was very welcome to do so, I would love to talk to her, meet her and whatever she was comfortable with. If she was not comfortable with this, throw the envelope away, I will not contact her again. I had done what I wanted to do. And I would close by saying thank you mom, I love you. So to all birth moms, thank you, I love you. You are a priceless gift from God, doc Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 When I was about 2 and a half years old I was told, " regular " babies grow in their mommy's tummies, but adopted babies grow in their mommy's hearts. I always loved that, and never forgot it. We were at the Catholic Charities Office picking up my brother at the time. doc carolyn RE: Having children Dear Regina, I think their must be something very special about adopted children ~smile~ by no design of my own my longest term best friend is adopted and my favorite daughter in law is adopted and now my favorite little girl is adopted ~smile~ and you have always been such a wonderful voice of calm and loving sharing to this group and your adopted -- so, you all are pretty darned special too {{{ big hugs }}} It is awesome what your mom did... truly a woman with a huge heart and a great deal of confidence (a better person than I) to do what she did and do such a wonderful job at it too! luv ya ~denise Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 In a message dated 11/4/02 6:05:58 PM US Eastern Standard Time, dr4kids2@... writes: > > When I was about 2 and a half years old I was told, " regular " babies grow > in their mommy's tummies, but adopted babies grow in their mommy's hearts. > I always loved that, and never forgot it. We were at the Catholic > Charities Office picking up my brother at the time. > OK, you guys have got me in tears now. My precious kids are both adopted; what treasures they are!! I am so blessed. My son is almost 13 and my daughter is 8. I love having them in my life; they (along with my husband) are everything to me. hugs, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 In a message dated 11/4/02 6:05:58 PM US Eastern Standard Time, dr4kids2@... writes: > > When I was about 2 and a half years old I was told, " regular " babies grow > in their mommy's tummies, but adopted babies grow in their mommy's hearts. > I always loved that, and never forgot it. We were at the Catholic > Charities Office picking up my brother at the time. > OK, you guys have got me in tears now. My precious kids are both adopted; what treasures they are!! I am so blessed. My son is almost 13 and my daughter is 8. I love having them in my life; they (along with my husband) are everything to me. hugs, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 In a message dated 11/4/02 6:05:58 PM US Eastern Standard Time, dr4kids2@... writes: > > When I was about 2 and a half years old I was told, " regular " babies grow > in their mommy's tummies, but adopted babies grow in their mommy's hearts. > I always loved that, and never forgot it. We were at the Catholic > Charities Office picking up my brother at the time. > OK, you guys have got me in tears now. My precious kids are both adopted; what treasures they are!! I am so blessed. My son is almost 13 and my daughter is 8. I love having them in my life; they (along with my husband) are everything to me. hugs, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 Dear Vic, You might as well ask, why is anyone " obsessed " with having children at all? After all, a child may be born with an unanticipated genetic defect, like the deaf children of my normally hearing friends. Moreover, the child may develop a debilitating illness like cancer or have a serious accident that leaves her or him disabled. If those of us with inheritable problems must abstain from having children, where do we draw the line? What about someone with allergies and asthma (those were the only autoimmune problems my parents had when they conceived me)? What about someone who has panic attacks? or a family history of early heart disease? And certainly the parents of astrophysicist Hawking (spelling?) should have aborted him had they known of the defects he would be born with. In fact, the least obsessed people may be on a site for zero population growth! This is a personal and subjective decision. It sounds like you have decided not to have children (although I assume you are glad your parents had you). I believe we should be slow to judge others, especially when we know little about them beyond these e-mails. Best for the new year, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 I understand what your saying , and I agree, but I can see Vic's point slightly as I won't be having anymore children, mine are grown and I don't pick up magazines to read that will tell the latest potty training methods. However I feel real blessed to have gotten this disease at the age of 41 after my kids had grown (I'm only 43 now). I really feel for all you and your families having to go through this disease with little ones. I couldn't have cared for mine before the diagnosis. If I were in your shoes, though, I would still want children. And then this board is vitally important for you. We have such a large range of ages on this board at different stages in life. Jen M. Re: Having children > Dear Vic, > > You might as well ask, why is anyone " obsessed " with having children at all? After all, a child may be born with an unanticipated genetic defect, like the deaf children of my normally hearing friends. Moreover, the child may develop a debilitating illness like cancer or have a serious accident that leaves her or him disabled. > > If those of us with inheritable problems must abstain from having children, where do we draw the line? What about someone with allergies and asthma (those were the only autoimmune problems my parents had when they conceived me)? What about someone who has panic attacks? or a family history of early heart disease? And certainly the parents of astrophysicist Hawking (spelling?) should have aborted him had they known of the defects he would be born with. In fact, the least obsessed people may be on a site for zero population growth! > > This is a personal and subjective decision. It sounds like you have decided not to have children (although I assume you are glad your parents had you). I believe we should be slow to judge others, especially when we know little about them beyond these e-mails. > > Best for the new year, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 I'd also like to add that autoimmune diseases are not considered inheritable or congenital diseases. One may pass on certain genes that cause a risk for autoimmune disease but this does not mean that one's children will invariably have an autoimmune disease. And today with all that's known about the environmental causes of autoimmune disease, preventing, controlling and treating symptoms are so much easier. Diseases like type 1 diabetes and lupus do not pose the same gravity they did one or two decades ago. There are true congenital diseases that need to be considered before having children, but autoimmune diseases are not in this sphere at all. Happy Holidays, Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 I have no family history on autoimmune disease either...I am the only one that has GD. Seems like this is the case more and more,so make me think that it MUST be environmental or something...I didn't even know what a thryoid was a few years ago and neither did any of my family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 I have no family history on autoimmune disease either...I am the only one that has GD. Seems like this is the case more and more,so make me think that it MUST be environmental or something...I didn't even know what a thryoid was a few years ago and neither did any of my family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 I have no family history on autoimmune disease either...I am the only one that has GD. Seems like this is the case more and more,so make me think that it MUST be environmental or something...I didn't even know what a thryoid was a few years ago and neither did any of my family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 jennifer wrote: | I have no family history on autoimmune disease either...I am the only one | that has GD. Seems like this is the case more and more,so make me think | that it MUST be environmental or something...I didn't even know what a | thryoid was a few years ago and neither did any of my family. Hi , there undoubtedly environmental factors that tend to thyroid misfunction, Chernobyl is a key example, but the vast majority of Graves' disease suffers still have blood relatives with thyroid or other autoimmune diseases. One document I saw asked for a family history of heart disease, as Graves disease was missed often enough in the past (and still is I'm sure), that the heart gave out before a correct diagnosis was ever made. I would add family history of depression or psychiatric problems, and possibly one or two others. One common issue is family members who died young, often with no clear diagnosis, often they aren't discussed as that can cause distress to relatives that knew them. I'd start with a close look at your family history, and health of current female blood relatives. Then again maybe we should ask if your family has any odd " habits " that might keep them away from likely environmental triggers. ~ Simon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+FKiqGFXfHI9FVgYRAs+ZAKC7PbGgtu4c+rfdAdHKMDTPA6Pa2wCfbW+1 8lJptlXExadqm1HnNVhSxbM= =p4PA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 jennifer wrote: | I have no family history on autoimmune disease either...I am the only one | that has GD. Seems like this is the case more and more,so make me think | that it MUST be environmental or something...I didn't even know what a | thryoid was a few years ago and neither did any of my family. Hi , there undoubtedly environmental factors that tend to thyroid misfunction, Chernobyl is a key example, but the vast majority of Graves' disease suffers still have blood relatives with thyroid or other autoimmune diseases. One document I saw asked for a family history of heart disease, as Graves disease was missed often enough in the past (and still is I'm sure), that the heart gave out before a correct diagnosis was ever made. I would add family history of depression or psychiatric problems, and possibly one or two others. One common issue is family members who died young, often with no clear diagnosis, often they aren't discussed as that can cause distress to relatives that knew them. I'd start with a close look at your family history, and health of current female blood relatives. Then again maybe we should ask if your family has any odd " habits " that might keep them away from likely environmental triggers. ~ Simon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+FKiqGFXfHI9FVgYRAs+ZAKC7PbGgtu4c+rfdAdHKMDTPA6Pa2wCfbW+1 8lJptlXExadqm1HnNVhSxbM= =p4PA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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