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My question is: have any of you attended this conference as I was

just told by my surgeon's nurse that she and the surgeon attended

this conference and the general consensus was that Flinstones was the

best vitamin. Is this true? I was telling her all I have learned

and she came back with this....Flinstones and Tums as they attended

the nutritional workshops or whatever there at the conference and

this is what they recommended along with 76 grams of protein a day, a

maximum of 30 grams of fat, and 100 carbs. IF this is true, boy, am

I way off base, ha ha. I just wondered if anyone here attended any

nutritional workshops there that discussed vitamins and nutrition and

what you learned. What is the ASBS and are they THE authorities on

post op patients? Anyone know?

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In a message dated 9/12/02 9:02:40 AM Central Daylight Time,

PATISINKY@... writes:

<< What is the ASBS and are they THE authorities on

post op patients? Anyone know?

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ASBS = American Society of Bariatric SURGEONS. Does that tell u anything?

Surgeons (and most other m.d.'s are notoriously lacking in nutritional

knowledge). What's even funnier, to me, is that they spout all kinds of stuff

based on what works for normies, instead of what works for bypass patients.

Get good advice from people who've been there, and adjust it for your own

situation. Proximals don't have the same problems as distals. DS'ers and

RNY'ers react differently to some things. Check out the sources people cite

and read them in the original. And insist on getting ALL the proper labs (I

had to go to SIX docs b4 I found one I could convince that it was a good idea

2b tested for vitamin deficiencies/ toxicities) on a regular basis. Make sure

YOU get your own copies, and keep a running tally yourself so u can see if

things are going up or down. Oh, and know the difference what up or down

means. In some things up is good and down is bad, in others it's vice versa.

Depend on YOURSELF to catch trends and/or problems. Your doc most likely

isn't going to keep a running tab like u do and things can easily fall

between the crax that way.

Regards,

Carol A

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The ASBS is the American Society of Bariatric Surgeons. They are not a

governing board, so being listed or not does not necessarily make your

surgeon good or bad (on that criteria).

I've attended 3 yrs. There was about an hour on the actual " best ideas " , and

I have it here. It definitely states calcium CITRATE as the best source, of

calcium. However, it then lists 4 brand names of carbonate sources. (???)

The conference focuses on techniques, new products (like stapling devices,

beds) & such for the surgeons & hands-on medical people. There is a side

segment that discusses nutrition briefly (yes, many of us would like to see

this one grow & be more up to date), but in general, how to run a successful

Bariatric practice. This conference is not really for or about patients.

It's about being on the OTHER side of the desk, or stapler, if you will.

Hopefully, some day, there will be a conference BY patients, FOR patients

and ABOUT patients and issue such as aftercare. Not theories from the Ivory

Tower, but real life, how-to-do-it stuff.

Are they The Authorities on post-op patients?

Thanks,

Vitalady T

www.vitalady.com

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> My question is: have any of you attended this conference as I was

> just told by my surgeon's nurse that she and the surgeon attended

> this conference and the general consensus was that Flinstones was the

> best vitamin. Is this true? I was telling her all I have learned

> and she came back with this....Flinstones and Tums as they attended

> the nutritional workshops or whatever there at the conference and

> this is what they recommended along with 76 grams of protein a day, a

> maximum of 30 grams of fat, and 100 carbs. IF this is true, boy, am

> I way off base, ha ha. I just wondered if anyone here attended any

> nutritional workshops there that discussed vitamins and nutrition and

> what you learned. What is the ASBS and are they THE authorities on

> post op patients? Anyone know?

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Ah, and wouldn't it be wonderful if all our surgeons would attend? But,

that's just a dream.

in NJ

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In a message dated 9/13/2002 12:26:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

vitalady@... writes:

> Hopefully, some day, there will be a conference BY patients, FOR patients

> and ABOUT patients and issue such as aftercare. Not theories from the Ivory

> Tower, but real life, how-to-do-it stuff.

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Ah, and wouldn't it be wonderful if all our surgeons would attend? But,

that's just a dream.

in NJ

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In a message dated 9/13/2002 12:26:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

vitalady@... writes:

> Hopefully, some day, there will be a conference BY patients, FOR patients

> and ABOUT patients and issue such as aftercare. Not theories from the Ivory

> Tower, but real life, how-to-do-it stuff.

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Ah, and wouldn't it be wonderful if all our surgeons would attend? But,

that's just a dream.

in NJ

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In a message dated 9/13/2002 12:26:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

vitalady@... writes:

> Hopefully, some day, there will be a conference BY patients, FOR patients

> and ABOUT patients and issue such as aftercare. Not theories from the Ivory

> Tower, but real life, how-to-do-it stuff.

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