Guest guest Posted September 12, 2002 Report Share Posted September 12, 2002 Dea Ann, have you found anything that is really helpful for your constipation? I've tried all sorts of things, but not one really good one that works consistantly. I think I now have an inguinal hernia (I'll find out Monday) from straining....yuck....ouch....any input? Thanks, Donna M. Yes, Donna I have. Thanks for asking and giving me the opportunity to climb on the soap box. The docs (WLS, PCP and gastroenterologist) all recommended fiber laxatives in a variety of forms. I found that fiber just made things bigger in diameter. Maybe in length too, but it was the diameter that was causing tearing and bleeding. I went through a long and winding road to find my solution though. You all don't want to hear don't want to hear what gastroenterologists do all day. When you hit the second half of your life some doctor will send you to see one for your own good. Finding out about it then is plenty early enough. Having said that, I've reconsidered. If you have had a sudden change in bowel practices, tell a doc. Go see the gastro and let them have a look. If they can't find anything, try my solution. I did let them do all their poking and prodding before taking charge. There is a lot of cancer in my family including bowel cancer. Even when I can keep things moving, I get colonoscopies every 5 years and mammograms every year and that started at 40. I use a holistic practitioner too. She gave me some 90 mg tablets of magnesium and told me to start with 4. The next day take 5. The day after that, take 6. Keep increasing by a tablet a day until I got a normal consistency. Remember, constipation is about consistency not frequency. Eventually I got up to 11 of her tablets a day and went looking for more potent tablets. Rite Aid carries a line of magnesium that packages it as 500 mg capsules. I now take 12 capsules a day. That is 6 grams or 6000 mg of magnesium a day. There is some magnesium in my multi also, so I'm not positive exactly how much magnesium I'm supplementing, but I know it is a lot. I suspect that just as I'm malabsorbing iron and other nutrients that I malabsorb magnesium. I also believe that it is evidenced by the Parathyroid Hormone test. Mine had gotten to 92 (normal is 10-65) at my worst constipation. I had other new and exciting symptoms like hives also. All of a sudden it appeared that I was allergic to my leather sofa. After I started with the high doses of magnesium, the hives went away and I stopped having impactions. My parathyroid hormone also went down to 50. Here is my theory. (BIG CAPITAL LETTERS TO DENOTE IMPORTANCE, NOT YELLING. DEA ANN IS AN ACCOUNTANT NOT A DOCTOR OR A RESEARCHER OR A CHEMIST! SUBSCRIBE TO THIS THEORY AT YOUR OWN RISK!) Magnesium is just like calcium. The blood tests show what is floating around in the blood stream at the minute they stick the needle in. The parathyroid gland's job is to maintain a perfect level of these minerals in the bloodstream because they cause muscles to work right. Some muscles are more important than others and they just can't wait for lunch time for the silly brain to go find a hand full of almonds when it needs some magnesium. For example, if the mineral mix isn't just right, the heart muscle operates erratically and you die. So the parathyroid will put out some hormone if the blood level of it's favorite minerals get low. It puts out less if the blood level is high. Now the body uses the hormone to tell it to get some mineral or to purge some mineral. Because these minerals are so important to important muscles, the body keeps a big storeroom of them so that there is plenty on hand. Guess where? The skeleton is the mineral storeroom. Bones are made up of magnesium and calcium and a few other minerals in precise measures. I'm thinking that for some reason, I wasn't absorbing enough magnesium to keep muscles beating and moving, so the parathyroid went and got some from the skeleton. When you pull out magnesium, some calcium has to go too, because they go into the bone together. I think that excess calcium leaving the body would feel like a brick in the colon. If there is a shortage of magnesium, the body would also kept it out of other less important muscles like the colon, so there is plenty for the heart. The colon won't move things along, but it will keep on sucking out the moisture. I live in a desert and it needs every drop of water it can find. I drink 3-4 quarts of water a day, plus a quart of herbal tea. After, I get the gallon of water in, I'll have a little crystal lite lemonade with a shot of strawberry SF syrup in a stem glass in the evening while the normies are drinking martinis. Anyway, if you are concerned about skeleton, I believe that in addition to watching your dexascans that will tell you what has happened over time, you need to watch your Parathyroid Hormone (PTH). It will tell you what is happening today. Baring tumors and other malfunctions, PTH levels go up, you need minerals (magnesium, calcium, phosphorus, etc.). PTH goes down your minerals are ok. Wishing you all peaceful trips to the little room, Dea Ann, The queen of constipation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2002 Report Share Posted September 12, 2002 In a message dated 9/12/02 10:55:20 AM Central Daylight Time, farley@... writes: Dea Ann, have you found anything that is really helpful for your constipation? I've tried all sorts of things, but not one really good one that works consistantly. I think I now have an inguinal hernia (I'll find out Monday) from straining....yuck....ouch....any input? Thanks, Donna M. --------------------------------------- Has anyone tried Metamucil or Citrucel? Do they work? Carol A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2002 Report Share Posted September 12, 2002 I use 1000 mg. flax seed oil caps, 4 times a day. Works like a charm for me and the flax seed oil is good for me- right kind of oils or some such thing. Alice The Loon RNY 12/28/00 > In a message dated 9/12/02 10:55:20 AM Central Daylight Time, > farley@n... writes: > > Dea Ann, have you found anything that is really helpful for your > constipation? I've tried all sorts of things, but not one really good one > that works consistantly. I think I now have an inguinal hernia (I'll find > out Monday) from straining....yuck....ouch....any input? > > Thanks, Donna M. > --------------------------------------- > > Has anyone tried Metamucil or Citrucel? Do they work? > > Carol A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2002 Report Share Posted September 16, 2002 I've tried them and other fiber things like FiberCon, shredded wheat, other cereals, flax seed. In my opinion, they just make things larger in diameter. Possibly in length also, but it is the diameter that kills me. Until she retired, my mom worked in nursing homes. The docs there were always prescribing Metamucil. Mom said it was always followed by an impaction. It was to the point where they hated to report constipation to a doc. They had to do it because it was frequently a side effect of other medications and it's an ethical thing for nurses. Cholesterol medication is notorious for constipation. She says it never works, but the drug reps are wonderful at selling it. The only things that I've found that consistently work without causing other damage are the glycerin suppositories to make it move through frequently and magnesium to improve the consistency. Prior to surgery, a Caesar Salad or Dieter's Tea would work for me. They don't even touch it now. Dea Ann Re: The queen is on her soap box! In a message dated 9/12/02 10:55:20 AM Central Daylight Time, farley@... writes: Dea Ann, have you found anything that is really helpful for your constipation? I've tried all sorts of things, but not one really good one that works consistantly. I think I now have an inguinal hernia (I'll find out Monday) from straining....yuck....ouch....any input? Thanks, Donna M. --------------------------------------- Has anyone tried Metamucil or Citrucel? Do they work? Carol A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2002 Report Share Posted September 16, 2002 I've tried them and other fiber things like FiberCon, shredded wheat, other cereals, flax seed. In my opinion, they just make things larger in diameter. Possibly in length also, but it is the diameter that kills me. Until she retired, my mom worked in nursing homes. The docs there were always prescribing Metamucil. Mom said it was always followed by an impaction. It was to the point where they hated to report constipation to a doc. They had to do it because it was frequently a side effect of other medications and it's an ethical thing for nurses. Cholesterol medication is notorious for constipation. She says it never works, but the drug reps are wonderful at selling it. The only things that I've found that consistently work without causing other damage are the glycerin suppositories to make it move through frequently and magnesium to improve the consistency. Prior to surgery, a Caesar Salad or Dieter's Tea would work for me. They don't even touch it now. Dea Ann Re: The queen is on her soap box! In a message dated 9/12/02 10:55:20 AM Central Daylight Time, farley@... writes: Dea Ann, have you found anything that is really helpful for your constipation? I've tried all sorts of things, but not one really good one that works consistantly. I think I now have an inguinal hernia (I'll find out Monday) from straining....yuck....ouch....any input? Thanks, Donna M. --------------------------------------- Has anyone tried Metamucil or Citrucel? Do they work? Carol A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2002 Report Share Posted September 16, 2002 I've tried them and other fiber things like FiberCon, shredded wheat, other cereals, flax seed. In my opinion, they just make things larger in diameter. Possibly in length also, but it is the diameter that kills me. Until she retired, my mom worked in nursing homes. The docs there were always prescribing Metamucil. Mom said it was always followed by an impaction. It was to the point where they hated to report constipation to a doc. They had to do it because it was frequently a side effect of other medications and it's an ethical thing for nurses. Cholesterol medication is notorious for constipation. She says it never works, but the drug reps are wonderful at selling it. The only things that I've found that consistently work without causing other damage are the glycerin suppositories to make it move through frequently and magnesium to improve the consistency. Prior to surgery, a Caesar Salad or Dieter's Tea would work for me. They don't even touch it now. Dea Ann Re: The queen is on her soap box! In a message dated 9/12/02 10:55:20 AM Central Daylight Time, farley@... writes: Dea Ann, have you found anything that is really helpful for your constipation? I've tried all sorts of things, but not one really good one that works consistantly. I think I now have an inguinal hernia (I'll find out Monday) from straining....yuck....ouch....any input? Thanks, Donna M. --------------------------------------- Has anyone tried Metamucil or Citrucel? Do they work? Carol A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2002 Report Share Posted September 16, 2002 In a message dated 9/16/02 10:15:52 AM Central Daylight Time, farley@... writes: << my mom worked in nursing homes. The docs there were always prescribing Metamucil. Mom said it was always followed by an impaction. >> --------------------------------- were the patients generally mostly the elderly? bcuz they're notorious for not drinking enuf liquids -- a very big necessity when taking metamucil or similar products. just wondering......... Carol A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2002 Report Share Posted September 16, 2002 In a message dated 9/16/02 10:15:52 AM Central Daylight Time, farley@... writes: << my mom worked in nursing homes. The docs there were always prescribing Metamucil. Mom said it was always followed by an impaction. >> --------------------------------- were the patients generally mostly the elderly? bcuz they're notorious for not drinking enuf liquids -- a very big necessity when taking metamucil or similar products. just wondering......... Carol A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2002 Report Share Posted September 16, 2002 << my mom worked in nursing homes. The docs there were always prescribing Metamucil. Mom said it was always followed by an impaction. >> --------------------------------- were the patients generally mostly the elderly? bcuz they're notorious for not drinking enuf liquids -- a very big necessity when taking metamucil or similar products. just wondering......... Carol A [DAF] Oh, yes, they were elderly, but they had nurses and aids hovering over them forcing fluids because they knew who would be wearing the rubber gloves with Vaseline up to the wrists. The docs also knew that the elderly are notorious for not drinking enough liquids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2002 Report Share Posted September 16, 2002 << my mom worked in nursing homes. The docs there were always prescribing Metamucil. Mom said it was always followed by an impaction. >> --------------------------------- were the patients generally mostly the elderly? bcuz they're notorious for not drinking enuf liquids -- a very big necessity when taking metamucil or similar products. just wondering......... Carol A [DAF] Oh, yes, they were elderly, but they had nurses and aids hovering over them forcing fluids because they knew who would be wearing the rubber gloves with Vaseline up to the wrists. The docs also knew that the elderly are notorious for not drinking enough liquids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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