Re: weight gain on protein

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hmmm.. my guess is that the weight gain might have a little more to do with

800 calories per roast beef sandwich than a protein shake.. IMHO

Message: 14

Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 13:25:35 -0500

Subject: Re: protein suggestions

I am a little over two years post op. I do not take any protein

supplements unless I want to gain weight. I get all my protein from

food. I eat a lot of yogurt and Arby Roast Beef sandwiches.

Ray Hooks

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http://www.bariatricsupplementsystem.com

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If protein shakes are made with water and ice, and not lots of added sugars

like milk and fruit, they will NOT put weight on. If you're using the

proteins designed for weight gain, then you'll put on weight.

Since you're so " into " research, perhaps you should consider looking into

physiology and anatomy and you'll see why it's physically impossible for us

to get enough protein from food. We can't digest it because our stomach

acid is in the lower portion of the stomach, so even the most proximal of

proximals can not absorb a reliable amount of protein. With the restriction

of the tiny pouch, it would seem ridiculous to me to try to stuff in enough

food to get enough protein for my body to live on. I don't think that even

if I ate constantly, I would get adequate protein.

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> I am a little over two years post op. I do not take any protein

> supplements unless I want to gain weight. I get all my protein from

> food. I eat a lot of yogurt and Arby Roast Beef sandwiches.

>

> Ray Hooks

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Terry,

I have to disagree with you on proximals and protein. I know lots of my

surgeon's post-op folks who are 2-5 years out and a few who are 5-10

years post and who NEVER do protein shakes who are quite healthy with

good lab work and so forth. If they weren't absorbing any protein in

their intestines, they would be in deep trouble or dead after that many

years, and clearly they are not. Dr. Weber's been doing RNY for more

than 15 years and doesn't require his folks to use protein shakes though

he thinks they're fine if people like them, and the vast majority of his

patients lose most of their excess weight and live in good health eating

just normal food.

I'm a 125cm medial and I DO consume protein shakes, because I think it's

easier on my system, but I disagree with your statements. The stomach

acid IS in the lower part of the stomach, but it does mix with the food

in the small intestine and it can be absorbed there. Additionally,

chewing food thoroughly in your mouth mixes it with saliva which is the

first component of digestion. With 125cm bypassed, I have about 575cm

left for digestion and absorption and my protein levels are fine with

one or two shakes a day.

Ziobro (was Moseley)

Open RNY 09/17/01 Dr. Weber

Reconstructives/plastics 07/22/02 Dr. Egrari

310/133!!/125

http://www.ziobro.us

Re: Re: weight gain on protein

If protein shakes are made with water and ice, and not lots of added

sugars like milk and fruit, they will NOT put weight on. If you're

using the proteins designed for weight gain, then you'll put on weight.

Since you're so " into " research, perhaps you should consider looking

into physiology and anatomy and you'll see why it's physically

impossible for us to get enough protein from food. We can't digest it

because our stomach acid is in the lower portion of the stomach, so even

the most proximal of proximals can not absorb a reliable amount of

protein. With the restriction of the tiny pouch, it would seem

ridiculous to me to try to stuff in enough food to get enough protein

for my body to live on. I don't think that even if I ate constantly, I

would get adequate protein.

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Terry Mayers

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I've never done a protein shake in my life and my protein labs are perfect

and I have been at 145 lbs goal for 10 months.

My doc doesn't allow us to do shakes, he does believe in them and well I say

to eat his own. They don't turn me on....

I guess I don't need them either. I would say I would have to fully

disagree also !

Re: Re: weight gain on protein

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> If protein shakes are made with water and ice, and not lots of added

> sugars like milk and fruit, they will NOT put weight on. If you're

> using the proteins designed for weight gain, then you'll put on weight.

>

> Since you're so " into " research, perhaps you should consider looking

> into physiology and anatomy and you'll see why it's physically

> impossible for us to get enough protein from food. We can't digest it

> because our stomach acid is in the lower portion of the stomach, so even

> the most proximal of proximals can not absorb a reliable amount of

> protein. With the restriction of the tiny pouch, it would seem

> ridiculous to me to try to stuff in enough food to get enough protein

> for my body to live on. I don't think that even if I ate constantly, I

> would get adequate protein.

>

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[Guest guest]

I've never done a protein shake in my life and my protein labs are perfect

and I have been at 145 lbs goal for 10 months.

My doc doesn't allow us to do shakes, he doesnt believe in them and well I

say

to each his own. They don't turn me on....

I guess I don't need them either. I would say I would have to fully

disagree also !

> Re: Re: weight gain on protein

> >

> >

> > If protein shakes are made with water and ice, and not lots of added

> > sugars like milk and fruit, they will NOT put weight on. If you're

> > using the proteins designed for weight gain, then you'll put on weight.

> >

> > Since you're so " into " research, perhaps you should consider looking

> > into physiology and anatomy and you'll see why it's physically

> > impossible for us to get enough protein from food. We can't digest it

> > because our stomach acid is in the lower portion of the stomach, so even

> > the most proximal of proximals can not absorb a reliable amount of

> > protein. With the restriction of the tiny pouch, it would seem

> > ridiculous to me to try to stuff in enough food to get enough protein

> > for my body to live on. I don't think that even if I ate constantly, I

> > would get adequate protein.

> >

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> > Terry Mayers

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