Re: /Fay / was some other topic...

[Guest guest]

It was a veryg good, scientifically backed up explanation. It talked about

our primative need for survival. It also talked about our stomachs and other

parts messaging with the brain. It discussed the messaging system going

wrong, thereby some people can eat and eat and never feel full. How you can

lose down to a certain point like you would during a famine and then the

message goes to the brain to eat more foodor eat more fat. The people who

didn't have these messages died during famines, the rest of us survived. It

also said at these times of loss, our body adjusted our metablism to make it

more effecient using calories. It was so full of info by researchers and

doctors just at the beginning of understanding how these genes interact with

each other. I have been trying to contact The learing Channel to find out

when it will rerun. I sincerely looking for other people's opinion on what

they were saying. Fay Bayuk

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/13/2002 11:48:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,

fbayuk@... writes:

<< It talked about

our primative need for survival. It also talked about our stomachs and

other

parts messaging with the brain. It discussed the messaging system going

wrong, thereby some people can eat and eat and never feel full. >>

This is interesting to me. When I'm buying clothes or in the company of

critical people, I wish I did not have an ounce of visible fat anywhere. But

when I see those rescue stories on the news about someone surviving for 3

months on air and a pigeon I think to myself.... " well I am in good shape when

I get stranded " .

Funny thing is, my brain does not seem to get that the odds of my buying

clothes and being belittled is a million times greater than that of being

stranded at sea. Particularly since I won't get off land.

B

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/13/2002 2:15:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,

datwell@... writes:

> >>It said that 50% of over eating was because our brain requires it. We

> will suffer a great deal of anxiety until a certain requirement for weight

> is met. The doctor who said this provided a great deal of evidence. Fay

>

> Would you explain this in more detail? If you don't think everyone

> would be

> interested just use the " reply " instead of " reply to all " and I'd like to

> understand what you are talking about in more detail.

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I didn't see the show, and I could be totally off base on this, but my

interpretation of this has to do with either the obesity gene or chemical

imbalance that does not allow some of us to feel full or sated after having

eaten what would be a sufficient amount of food for normies. Prior to WLS, I

would only feel full after eating what would be akin to a Thanksgiving-sized

meal. Now, I still don't feel full unless I've overeaten, but I do try to

recognize the signs that will tell me one more bite and it's coming back up.

in NJ

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/13/2002 2:15:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,

datwell@... writes:

> >>It said that 50% of over eating was because our brain requires it. We

> will suffer a great deal of anxiety until a certain requirement for weight

> is met. The doctor who said this provided a great deal of evidence. Fay

>

> Would you explain this in more detail? If you don't think everyone

> would be

> interested just use the " reply " instead of " reply to all " and I'd like to

> understand what you are talking about in more detail.

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I didn't see the show, and I could be totally off base on this, but my

interpretation of this has to do with either the obesity gene or chemical

imbalance that does not allow some of us to feel full or sated after having

eaten what would be a sufficient amount of food for normies. Prior to WLS, I

would only feel full after eating what would be akin to a Thanksgiving-sized

meal. Now, I still don't feel full unless I've overeaten, but I do try to

recognize the signs that will tell me one more bite and it's coming back up.

in NJ

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/13/2002 2:15:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,

datwell@... writes:

> >>It said that 50% of over eating was because our brain requires it. We

> will suffer a great deal of anxiety until a certain requirement for weight

> is met. The doctor who said this provided a great deal of evidence. Fay

>

> Would you explain this in more detail? If you don't think everyone

> would be

> interested just use the " reply " instead of " reply to all " and I'd like to

> understand what you are talking about in more detail.

*****************************************

I didn't see the show, and I could be totally off base on this, but my

interpretation of this has to do with either the obesity gene or chemical

imbalance that does not allow some of us to feel full or sated after having

eaten what would be a sufficient amount of food for normies. Prior to WLS, I

would only feel full after eating what would be akin to a Thanksgiving-sized

meal. Now, I still don't feel full unless I've overeaten, but I do try to

recognize the signs that will tell me one more bite and it's coming back up.

in NJ

[Guest guest]

That is what I got from the show leslie. It sure gave me lots to think

about. But unless you guys see the show your self, you are only getting my

interpretation. By the way the title was " understanding. " I think someone

here on this board was on the show. Fay Bayuk

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/13/2002 3:10:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, FBayuk

writes:

> That is what I got from the show leslie. It sure gave me lots to think

> about. But unless you guys see the show your self, you are only getting my

> interpretation. By the way the title was " understanding. " I think someone

> here on this board was on the show. Fay Bayuk

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Oh, I did see the show. It was Bob A. that was on it....our own celeb (who

looks fabulous, BTW). I didn't catch the part you're talking about, though,

but I do hope they were suggesting that there's more to obesity than just

lack of willpower. It's been a long time coming. Now, if only the medical

profession would listen to that.

in NJ

[Guest guest]

>>It said that 50% of over eating was because our brain requires it. We

will suffer a great deal of anxiety until a certain requirement for weight

is met. The doctor who said this provided a great deal of evidence. Fay

Would you explain this in more detail? If you don't think everyone would be

interested just use the " reply " instead of " reply to all " and I'd like to

understand what you are talking about in more detail.

Thanks

~denise

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/13/02 10:47:24 AM Central Standard Time, fbayuk@...

writes:

<< It discussed the messaging system going

wrong, thereby some people can eat and eat and never feel full. How you can

lose down to a certain point like you would during a famine and then the

message goes to the brain to eat more foodor eat more fat. The people who

didn't have these messages died during famines, the rest of us survived. >>

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I think the hormone carrying the message is the ghrelin I posted about a few

days (or weeks? I can't keep track anymore, LOL) ago. The stuff they've found

bypass patients don't have anymore and is maybe a reason why we don't regain

all our weight.

Carol A

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/13/02 10:47:24 AM Central Standard Time, fbayuk@...

writes:

<< It discussed the messaging system going

wrong, thereby some people can eat and eat and never feel full. How you can

lose down to a certain point like you would during a famine and then the

message goes to the brain to eat more foodor eat more fat. The people who

didn't have these messages died during famines, the rest of us survived. >>

--------------------------------

I think the hormone carrying the message is the ghrelin I posted about a few

days (or weeks? I can't keep track anymore, LOL) ago. The stuff they've found

bypass patients don't have anymore and is maybe a reason why we don't regain

all our weight.

Carol A

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/13/02 1:44:53 PM Central Standard Time, watnext@...

writes:

<< Prior to WLS, I

would only feel full after eating what would be akin to a Thanksgiving-sized

meal. Now, I still don't feel full unless I've overeaten, but I do try to

recognize the signs that will tell me one more bite and it's coming back up.

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Well, I'll be ! ! Someone else just like me. Are you managing to lose weight

despite it all? I get down maybe just a pound a month. I keep thinking maybe

I've got a stoma that's stretched, but then again, I've been able to eat 4

times what I should be able to, from the day I went back on solid (soft)

foods over a year ago. Oh, btw, UNlike you, nothing ever comes back up. Maybe

on a couple of rare occasions. I feel like I just get no help from that

darned pouch that cost me a fortune.......

Carol A