Re: Whining here too! **LONG**

[Guest guest]

,

I hope you don't mind me chiming in being new here. I feel sympathy for you

with all you've dealt with. I have no advise here since I don't know much

about the medical problems you've had. I do want to say a few things about

your being able to keep things down.

I've never been one for candy but I certainly had many cravings the first

couple of years. I don't know how long it's been since your WLS. For

starters, I will say stress makes it very difficult to keep your food down.

For me, a year after my surgery, was the beginning of the end of my first

marriage. I had many trips to the bathroom because my food wouldn't stay

down. You have to be relaxed to eat. Clear your mind and concentrate on

chewing your food WELL.

Meats can be difficult. Everything has to be cooked tender. I can remember

having problems with chicken and ground beef or pork. At this point for me,

I began buying more expensive cuts of meat....I love a good steak. Spoil

yourself. The deli meats are great too. No packaged lunchmeat for me

anymore. I still don't do hamburgers well. If the kids really want me to

cook burgers, I mix half hamburger, half ground turkey, lots of spices and

wa-la. I can eat a small one myself. I never eat meat first. Save the heavy

stuff for last. This way, you aren't to full for the other things you need

too.

No matter what anyone else says, I have to drink sips of something while I

eat even when I was early PO. Not much but a lubricant to get the food

through. Meat tends to gather down there even if you chew forever. Peanut

butter is great but too sticky even with a drink.

Remember too, if you can't get it chewed well, it's gonna come back. I can

remember sitting in a restaurant with my family visiting. I got a piece of

meat with fat that I didn't see. I chewed all I could but was embarrassed to

spit it into a napkin so down it went. Oh geez! I sure never did that again.

It was much worse having to go into a public bathroom, quickly, because it

was coming back. Fried food are a no, no...should be for everyone!

In time, you will know what you can and can't eat. I can eat anything I want

now in moderation. Not that you will want something that will have you

running to the bathroom for either end. I have been on Prilosec for several

years and now changed to Nexium. Tomato sauce always burns in my stomach.

You will find yourself quite the creative cook. It does take time to know

what is possible for yourself.

I hope this helps a little,

Dawn

[Guest guest]

,

I hope you don't mind me chiming in being new here. I feel sympathy for you

with all you've dealt with. I have no advise here since I don't know much

about the medical problems you've had. I do want to say a few things about

your being able to keep things down.

I've never been one for candy but I certainly had many cravings the first

couple of years. I don't know how long it's been since your WLS. For

starters, I will say stress makes it very difficult to keep your food down.

For me, a year after my surgery, was the beginning of the end of my first

marriage. I had many trips to the bathroom because my food wouldn't stay

down. You have to be relaxed to eat. Clear your mind and concentrate on

chewing your food WELL.

Meats can be difficult. Everything has to be cooked tender. I can remember

having problems with chicken and ground beef or pork. At this point for me,

I began buying more expensive cuts of meat....I love a good steak. Spoil

yourself. The deli meats are great too. No packaged lunchmeat for me

anymore. I still don't do hamburgers well. If the kids really want me to

cook burgers, I mix half hamburger, half ground turkey, lots of spices and

wa-la. I can eat a small one myself. I never eat meat first. Save the heavy

stuff for last. This way, you aren't to full for the other things you need

too.

No matter what anyone else says, I have to drink sips of something while I

eat even when I was early PO. Not much but a lubricant to get the food

through. Meat tends to gather down there even if you chew forever. Peanut

butter is great but too sticky even with a drink.

Remember too, if you can't get it chewed well, it's gonna come back. I can

remember sitting in a restaurant with my family visiting. I got a piece of

meat with fat that I didn't see. I chewed all I could but was embarrassed to

spit it into a napkin so down it went. Oh geez! I sure never did that again.

It was much worse having to go into a public bathroom, quickly, because it

was coming back. Fried food are a no, no...should be for everyone!

In time, you will know what you can and can't eat. I can eat anything I want

now in moderation. Not that you will want something that will have you

running to the bathroom for either end. I have been on Prilosec for several

years and now changed to Nexium. Tomato sauce always burns in my stomach.

You will find yourself quite the creative cook. It does take time to know

what is possible for yourself.

I hope this helps a little,

Dawn

[Guest guest]

Your stoma, at 16-17 mm, is borderline length for achieving satiety.

The goal is for 10-12 mm. A larger stoma allows more food through

quicker without creating a feeling of satiety. The results for

corrective surgery for this are mixed. You will have to depend on

developing good eating habits to maintain your weight.

Ray Hooks

For WLS nutrition info, visit

http://www.bariatricsupplementsystem.com

lil_gina_bean wrote:

>

> I'm feeling overwhelmed lately.

>

> I am one of those people who never even came close to my goal. I

> started at 267.5 and at my lowest weight was 157 (for about 2

> hours). I stayed at 160 for quite a while and decided I would be

> happy there (though I'd dreamt of 130, or would have settled for

> 147, what I weighed in 8th grade.) However, bad habits and stress

> had me grazing candy bars all day long, and I went up to 170. I

> stayed there for about 6 months. Since last August, I gained up to

> 183. Gained 25 lbs!!!!!

>

> In June, I started protein supps in earnest and got off the sugar

> almost comepletely - no candy. The cravings dropped off

> dramatically and I was finally able to change my automatic habit of

> buying 2 or 3 candy bars whenever I picked up a prescription or got

> gas in the car. Now I am able to resist the urge and I buy a bottle

> of water instead. I had been unable to exercise since last December

> (in hospital for gastric bleed and anemia, was pregnant, then

> miscarried and could not get my hemoglobin to go up and was

> EXHAUSTED all the time.) I started doing aerobics tapes almost

> everyday, and my weight started to come back down to 174 or so.

> Then I had tendonitis in my ankle and had to stop exercising again.

> The pain got better but did not go away, so went back to the

> orthopedist and found that they think I have ECD - basically, a

> piece of the bone in my ankle is dead. Normally, they don't treat

> it, but I'm diabetic and I must exercise to help control my blood

> sugars. So now I have to have a bone scan to confirm if I do have

> the ECD; if so, it means surgery. A day before this, I saw a

> neurologist to rule out TIA's (mini strokes) and while she wasn't

> sure I was having them, I'm having an MRI of my head done to see how

> I'm doing. Depending on what they find, I may be a candidate for a

> special surgery to add an additional blood supply to part of my

> brain. (this would help prevent future strokes from occuring. To

> top it off, I'm scheduled for my panni on 9/26.

>

> I had my GB because I had a stroke at 34, due to my diabetes. I had

> to lose the weight or not have much of a future. I'm also low

> thyroid and have PCOD (polycystic ovary disease), ALL of which are

> endocrine related diseases, all of which make me insulin resistant

> and make it difficult for me to lose weight under any conditions.

> DAMN! The GB is the hardest thing I have ever done. I still suffer

> with food - the crap goes down fine (candy) but dense protein is hit

> and miss. I can have chicken or fish or ground beef or steak one

> time and be fine, the next, throw it up. I can't eat anything fatty

> (fried anything) without getting sick (okay but I miss peanut

> butter), it is hit or miss with throwing up, and I never know until

> I get down a few bites that the food just isn't going to work. I've

> finally learned to stop right then but it is SO hard when the food

> is right in front of me and tastes good but doesn't work in my

> pouch. If my tummy is completely empty, I can get sick on salad or

> veggies or fruit, too. I can't eat anything spicy or acidic (like

> tomatoes or spaghetti sauce or diet pop) without risking a bad gut

> ache. And this is with taking a major anti-acid drug called

> Protonix!! I feel so damn limited in what I can eat and then when

> even those foods don't work I want to give up. I don't even like to

> eat out anymore, since I never know what will work.

>

> I get angry that even though I have been working diligently on my

> food intake, given up the crap, drink the water and my 4 shakes a

> day, I continue to gain weight. I am also receiving IV iron

> treatments to increase my stored iron and hemoglobin.

>

> So, do I cancel my panni/TT due to the weight gain? When I saw the

> surgeon a year ago, I was at 170 and had been for several months.

> When I saw him this summer, I was at 180. Now I'm 183/4. If I have

> the TT and LOSE more (I pray), will that be bad? I just cannot face

> gaining any more!!!!! Do I undergo the risks of surgery for the TT

> that my insurance will pay for even with my stroke history (minor

> stroke and I came thru the GB with flying colors and no

> complications)? And what if I have to have the ankle surgery or the

> brain surgery (which is not an open cranium procedure, they bore a

> hole in my skull)????

>

> AARRRGHHHHH!!

>

> Vitalady advised me to get a scope done - but my GB was transected

> and would SLD be possible?? I had a scope done in December in the

> hospital and I had gastritis, no ulcers or lesions and my RNY seemed

> to be intact (though he wasn't looking at the RNY for possible

> problems but for the source of my gastric bleed) My stoma was 16-17

> mm (I asked him to measure)

>

> Phew, I needed to just put this all in writing and get it off my

> chest. Thank you for letting me rant. I don't post often but I

> read everything and you all mean a lot to me.

>

> gina bean

> 1/6/00 RNY

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