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My father was diagnosed with MSA 2 years ago. He has been

followed by a very good neurologist specialising in mouvement

disorders. He has been in a " home " since August of this year.

last week he saw another neurologist who treats other patients

in the home. He is a specialist in Parkinson's and Alzheimer's

disease. He implied that my dad had Parkinson's and not MSA

because if he had MSA and tried to stand up (which is extremely

difficult for him) he would faint . His blood pressure has been

stable for the last couple of months and he did not faint. Great I

say! Meanwhile the doctor prescribed L-Dopa for him because

he wants to stop some tremors and is saying that his condition

is like Parkinson's. My dad has felt very listless since he started

this medecine and it seems to me that his speech is more

slurred. I can't make out what he says on the phone. I am angry

at this doctor for such a glib " diagnosis " . My mother will speak to

the main neurologist when he returns from his holiday. I would

just discontinue the L-Dopa, it has only been a few days. I could

use some advice.

Joanne

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Joanne,

L-dopa does seem to help about 40-45% of the MSA patients at least somewhat.

Note too that tremor is not usually a big problem with MSA and that PD like

rigidity is often more of a problem. Not all MSA patients experience the BP

problem but over 80% develop it at some time in their bout with MSA. Has it

increased movement at all? Is he getting it more than 4 times a day and how

much?

The doctor should be told about the listlessness to access the value of

continuing the medicine as it is a side effect of Sinemet. But the speech

thing is more a sign of infection than a side effect of Sinemet. So before

insisting on removal of the Sinemet, I would push for a check for infection

as listlessness is also a sign of infection.

A few days is not a good test of Sinemet, it may take as much as 30 days to

decide if it is helping. Sinemet is also a ramp medicine and you should come

off it as slowly as you went on it. They need to decide if it is helping

with the rigidity. Is he getting physical therapy? If so they should check

his movement before he takes the Sinemet and 30 minutes after he takes it.

It is up to you, but it worked at least somewhat for my wife for 12 years.

Take care, Bill Werre

cyberturtle707 wrote:

> My father was diagnosed with MSA 2 years ago. He has been

> followed by a very good neurologist specialising in mouvement

> disorders. He has been in a " home " since August of this year.

> last week he saw another neurologist who treats other patients

> in the home. He is a specialist in Parkinson's and Alzheimer's

> disease. He implied that my dad had Parkinson's and not MSA

> because if he had MSA and tried to stand up (which is extremely

> difficult for him) he would faint . His blood pressure has been

> stable for the last couple of months and he did not faint. Great I

> say! Meanwhile the doctor prescribed L-Dopa for him because

> he wants to stop some tremors and is saying that his condition

> is like Parkinson's. My dad has felt very listless since he started

> this medecine and it seems to me that his speech is more

> slurred. I can't make out what he says on the phone. I am angry

> at this doctor for such a glib " diagnosis " . My mother will speak to

> the main neurologist when he returns from his holiday. I would

> just discontinue the L-Dopa, it has only been a few days. I could

> use some advice.

> Joanne

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Thanks once again for your information. I will see my dad

tomorrow and will share your experience with him. I will also

mention the caution about the infection. I don't know why one

neurologist, who met my father once, recommended L-Dopa

while another , who has been seeing my dad for 2 years, has

never mentionned it. I was afraid that he had made a bad

decision but I see that other MSA patients have tried this. I

presume that Sinemet is a type of L-Dopa. I will pass this

information on to my parents. I hope that you are well.

Joanne

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Joanne,

Remember that the condition you describe can be a sign of infection

which is far more common with MSA than a side effect of either of these

medicines. If it is connected with the Florinef it may be low potassium

which can be corrected with more potassium in the diet or pills.

But here are sites to check them out:

Florinef can be checked out at this site

http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH?d=dmtUSPV2 & c=319505 & p=~br,IHW|~st,8124|~r,WSIHW000|~b,*|

It is commonly used in MSA to increase BP when you have orthostatic

hypotensin

Side Effects of This Medicine

Along with its needed effects, a medicine may cause some unwanted

effects. Although not all of

these side effects may occur, if they do occur they may need

medical attention.

Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side

effects occur:

Less common or rare

Cough;

difficulty swallowing; hives; irregular breathing or shortness of breath;

irregular

heartbeat; redness and itching of skin; redness of eyes; swelling of nasal

passages,

face, or eyelids; swollen neck veins; unusual tiredness or weakness

Check with your doctor as soon as possible if any of the following

side effects occur:

Less common or rare

Dizziness;

headache (severe or continuing); loss of appetite; muscle cramps or pain;

nausea;

swelling of feet or lower legs; weakness in arms, legs, or trunk (severe);

weight

gain (rapid); vomiting

Other side effects not listed above may also occur in some patients.

If you notice any other effects,

check with your doctor.

Sinemet (L-dopa)

http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH?d=dmtUSPV2 & c=319576 & p=~br,IHW|~st,8124|~r,WSIHW000|~b,*|

Side Effects of This Medicine

Along with its needed effects, a medicine may cause some unwanted

effects. Although not all of

these side effects may occur, if they do occur they may need

medical attention.

Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side

effects occur:

Less common or rare

Cough;

difficulty swallowing; hives; irregular breathing or shortness of breath;

irregular

heartbeat; redness and itching of skin; redness of eyes; swelling of nasal

passages,

face, or eyelids; swollen neck veins; unusual tiredness or weakness

Check with your doctor as soon as possible if any of the following

side effects occur:

Less common or rare

Dizziness;

headache (severe or continuing); loss of appetite; muscle cramps or pain;

nausea;

swelling of feet or lower legs; weakness in arms, legs, or trunk (severe);

weight

gain (rapid); vomiting

Other side effects not listed above may also occur in some patients.

If you notice any other effects,

check with your doctor.

More common

Abdominal

pain; dryness of mouth; loss of appetite; nightmares; passing gas

Less common

Constipation;

diarrhea; flushing of skin; headache; hiccups; increased sweating;

muscle

twitching; trouble in sleeping

This medicine may sometimes cause the urine, saliva, and sweat

to be darker in color than usual.

The urine may at first be reddish, then turn to nearly black

after being exposed to air. Some

bathroom cleaning products will produce a similar effect when

in contact with urine containing this

medicine. This is to be expected during treatment with this medicine.

Also, this medicine may

cause a bitter taste, or a burning sensation of the tongue.

Other side effects not listed above may also occur in some patients.

If you notice any other effects,

check with your doctor.

Take care, Bill Werre

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Joanne,

Remember that the condition you describe can be a sign of infection

which is far more common with MSA than a side effect of either of these

medicines. If it is connected with the Florinef it may be low potassium

which can be corrected with more potassium in the diet or pills.

But here are sites to check them out:

Florinef can be checked out at this site

http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH?d=dmtUSPV2 & c=319505 & p=~br,IHW|~st,8124|~r,WSIHW000|~b,*|

It is commonly used in MSA to increase BP when you have orthostatic

hypotensin

Side Effects of This Medicine

Along with its needed effects, a medicine may cause some unwanted

effects. Although not all of

these side effects may occur, if they do occur they may need

medical attention.

Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side

effects occur:

Less common or rare

Cough;

difficulty swallowing; hives; irregular breathing or shortness of breath;

irregular

heartbeat; redness and itching of skin; redness of eyes; swelling of nasal

passages,

face, or eyelids; swollen neck veins; unusual tiredness or weakness

Check with your doctor as soon as possible if any of the following

side effects occur:

Less common or rare

Dizziness;

headache (severe or continuing); loss of appetite; muscle cramps or pain;

nausea;

swelling of feet or lower legs; weakness in arms, legs, or trunk (severe);

weight

gain (rapid); vomiting

Other side effects not listed above may also occur in some patients.

If you notice any other effects,

check with your doctor.

Sinemet (L-dopa)

http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH?d=dmtUSPV2 & c=319576 & p=~br,IHW|~st,8124|~r,WSIHW000|~b,*|

Side Effects of This Medicine

Along with its needed effects, a medicine may cause some unwanted

effects. Although not all of

these side effects may occur, if they do occur they may need

medical attention.

Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side

effects occur:

Less common or rare

Cough;

difficulty swallowing; hives; irregular breathing or shortness of breath;

irregular

heartbeat; redness and itching of skin; redness of eyes; swelling of nasal

passages,

face, or eyelids; swollen neck veins; unusual tiredness or weakness

Check with your doctor as soon as possible if any of the following

side effects occur:

Less common or rare

Dizziness;

headache (severe or continuing); loss of appetite; muscle cramps or pain;

nausea;

swelling of feet or lower legs; weakness in arms, legs, or trunk (severe);

weight

gain (rapid); vomiting

Other side effects not listed above may also occur in some patients.

If you notice any other effects,

check with your doctor.

More common

Abdominal

pain; dryness of mouth; loss of appetite; nightmares; passing gas

Less common

Constipation;

diarrhea; flushing of skin; headache; hiccups; increased sweating;

muscle

twitching; trouble in sleeping

This medicine may sometimes cause the urine, saliva, and sweat

to be darker in color than usual.

The urine may at first be reddish, then turn to nearly black

after being exposed to air. Some

bathroom cleaning products will produce a similar effect when

in contact with urine containing this

medicine. This is to be expected during treatment with this medicine.

Also, this medicine may

cause a bitter taste, or a burning sensation of the tongue.

Other side effects not listed above may also occur in some patients.

If you notice any other effects,

check with your doctor.

Take care, Bill Werre

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