Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Aletta, I think the point of the research was to demonstrate that the autonomic nervous system in general becomes impaired with age. Ingestion of large amounts of water helps the elderly maintain blood pressure. They also discovered that ingestion of water helps all people with autonomic dysfunction regardless of age... so to answer your question " does it apply to me? " ... YES YES YES! DRINK DRINK DRINK! (water that is) Hugs, Pam --- aletta mes aletta_mes@...> wrote: > Pam: > How do those of us under 50 know if this relates to > us??? Just part of my > frustration with not being part of the ruling > demographic. > ______________________________________________________________________ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 -Aletta I have been on Serzone, Paxil, Prozac and now I take effexor. I didn't care for the first 3 at all. I especially didnt care for Paxil. I gained 30 pounds in less than 3 months. I also did not think I was depressed but I was told repeatedly that I was depressed upon going to doctors and telling them my symptoms. I do agree with you why someone who had never thought they would be subjected to the idea of having to wear diapers, think of peg tubes or anything else related can make anyone depressed. To say it doesnt make me depressed would be someone I don't believe could be honest about anything. As far as drinking lots of water, I believe that anyone regardless if they have MSA or not should drink water and plenty of it. Belinda -- In shydrager@y..., aletta mes wrote: > Pam: > How do those of us under 50 know if this relates to us??? Just part of my > frustration with not being part of the ruling demographic. > > Zac (&Bill): > You can add me to the list of people not responding well to Zoloft. I > reacted poorly to Prozac as well (ended up in ER, took a week to return to > what was normal). So far none of the anti-depressants worked for me (being > tried for sleeping problems and suspected depression). I never thought I > was depressed either. I'd lived through far worse patches without > depression. When I went to see the shrink originally it had to do with > being unable to sleep, inability to focus, fatigue, weight loss - all of > which are signs of depression - those same symptoms however when added into > previously experienced symptoms diagnosed seperately, once the shrink > connected the dots came up MSA. with your brain out of whack seratonin can > go either way (back and forth even). We've hit a space in time where we > are being sold SSRI's as a cure for all that ails but defies diagnosis. My > X does very well on Zoloft, but he has dysthymia (long term unrelenting > severe depression) and nothing else. Depression can be better treated with > talk therapy where the origin of the depression is uncovered, then an > anti-depressant can be added to help speed the process. Too many GP's > consider themselves expert at psychiatry, we certainly know how complex and > completely different each brain is, let alone each person's experience and > perception. A fifteen minute office visit is hardly sufficient basis for > putting someone on SSRI's, like putting every thirsty person on insulin > without proper testing. > > After the death of my father, while I was in university, the campus shrink > put me on Lithium, to help me through exams. This doctor never explained > the extra water intake required, not did hhe do follow--up. Consequently I > ended up in hospital with kidney failure and had to quit university to > recover. The lithium was directly responsible. Lithium is useful in > treating bi-polar depression, mine was a natural depression based on a > recent traumatic event and should never have been treated with lithium to > begin with. Had I knows and understood the risks involved I would never > have taken it. > > Anyone with a chronic illness is more likely to develop depression (who > wouldn't find wearing diapers, falling over like a drunk, choking on water > and sounding incoherent depressing). More serious are depressions which > have no apparent cause. Those are also most difficult to treat, here is > where SSRI's and other newer anti-depressants are useful. If someone can > show me through testing I am seretonin deficient, I'll consider taking it. > Same goes for dopamine etc. > > > aletta mes, vancouver, bc canada > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Site: http://www.aletta.0catch.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 -Aletta I have been on Serzone, Paxil, Prozac and now I take effexor. I didn't care for the first 3 at all. I especially didnt care for Paxil. I gained 30 pounds in less than 3 months. I also did not think I was depressed but I was told repeatedly that I was depressed upon going to doctors and telling them my symptoms. I do agree with you why someone who had never thought they would be subjected to the idea of having to wear diapers, think of peg tubes or anything else related can make anyone depressed. To say it doesnt make me depressed would be someone I don't believe could be honest about anything. As far as drinking lots of water, I believe that anyone regardless if they have MSA or not should drink water and plenty of it. Belinda -- In shydrager@y..., aletta mes wrote: > Pam: > How do those of us under 50 know if this relates to us??? Just part of my > frustration with not being part of the ruling demographic. > > Zac (&Bill): > You can add me to the list of people not responding well to Zoloft. I > reacted poorly to Prozac as well (ended up in ER, took a week to return to > what was normal). So far none of the anti-depressants worked for me (being > tried for sleeping problems and suspected depression). I never thought I > was depressed either. I'd lived through far worse patches without > depression. When I went to see the shrink originally it had to do with > being unable to sleep, inability to focus, fatigue, weight loss - all of > which are signs of depression - those same symptoms however when added into > previously experienced symptoms diagnosed seperately, once the shrink > connected the dots came up MSA. with your brain out of whack seratonin can > go either way (back and forth even). We've hit a space in time where we > are being sold SSRI's as a cure for all that ails but defies diagnosis. My > X does very well on Zoloft, but he has dysthymia (long term unrelenting > severe depression) and nothing else. Depression can be better treated with > talk therapy where the origin of the depression is uncovered, then an > anti-depressant can be added to help speed the process. Too many GP's > consider themselves expert at psychiatry, we certainly know how complex and > completely different each brain is, let alone each person's experience and > perception. A fifteen minute office visit is hardly sufficient basis for > putting someone on SSRI's, like putting every thirsty person on insulin > without proper testing. > > After the death of my father, while I was in university, the campus shrink > put me on Lithium, to help me through exams. This doctor never explained > the extra water intake required, not did hhe do follow--up. Consequently I > ended up in hospital with kidney failure and had to quit university to > recover. The lithium was directly responsible. Lithium is useful in > treating bi-polar depression, mine was a natural depression based on a > recent traumatic event and should never have been treated with lithium to > begin with. Had I knows and understood the risks involved I would never > have taken it. > > Anyone with a chronic illness is more likely to develop depression (who > wouldn't find wearing diapers, falling over like a drunk, choking on water > and sounding incoherent depressing). More serious are depressions which > have no apparent cause. Those are also most difficult to treat, here is > where SSRI's and other newer anti-depressants are useful. If someone can > show me through testing I am seretonin deficient, I'll consider taking it. > Same goes for dopamine etc. > > > aletta mes, vancouver, bc canada > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Site: http://www.aletta.0catch.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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