Guest guest Posted August 12, 2002 Report Share Posted August 12, 2002 > Yanno? Perhaps I should stop digging around and reading and > researching this issue <<< Nah, ~smile~ we should all keep researching, digging and learning -- if we don't, who will? >> nutrition info for normies<< I dunno about normies other than the manufactures say that they can absorb about 30 grams per setting so it is safe to assume we absorb a bit less... (in the shake form... not food form.) >>>I am just wondering if of you knowledgeable folks had read all this and what is your take on it?<<< I haven't read all that -- I try to dig around in the research on abnormal intestines and stomachs with what research time I've got BUT... my personal " take " is only what worked for me -- I was told to drink a gram per pound of body weight that I desired -- during the fast weight loss period -- I drank 120 grams I weigh 120 lbs -- once I hit the 120 ('bout 14 months ago) and my activity level (daily stuff) went way up / my protein went way up too and for me, I can feel the " fuel " I get from it -- probably average around 180 grams a day with a lot of water to flush it through and then I use the " food " part to get in good veggies & some fruit (carbs 'n fats) and denser protein to keep the full feeling. Using that method I've been able to maintain the same weight / size for 14 months so -- for me, if it ain't broke..... is my personal take on it... > I just had my two year labs completed and protein is fine, blood calcium is fine<< Blood calcium can't measure osteo early on -- a Dex is required for accurate measure and your doc should be able to order that for you with no problem using " gastric by-pass " as the " purpose " for your insurance to pay. >> On the other hand the only thing really outta line is that D is a tad on the high side.<<< Mine too but for those of us who spend a lot of time out-doors in the summer that is sort of normal (my PCP said it was ok... Sun provides extra D in the summer that will show a flux not having to do with my supp...) None of what I posted was based on any research at all... just my own personal " what worked " and the D thing is just what my PCP said about my D... hugz, ~denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2002 Report Share Posted August 12, 2002 Having a high vitamin D level may come from too much exposure to the sun. Vitamin D is one of the few vitamins the body can make on its own. The body converts sun light into vitamin D. 15 minutes of sun light on just the arms is usually sufficient for the body to be able to make enough vitamin D. As we get older though, the body becomes less proficient at this process. Also, the farther away you are from the Equator, the more sun exposure you need because of the difference in the intensity of sun rays. Ray Hooks For WLS nutrition info, visit http://www.bariatricsupplementsystem.com DanSCen21@... wrote: > > In a message dated 8/12/2002 3:47:06 PM Central Standard Time, > 71160@... writes: > > > I do 150 g of protein a day, but I'm in the Maintaining mode. I was SUPPOSED > > to do 150 g a day in the losing mode also, but was a very bad girl! > > Yanno? Perhaps I should stop digging around and reading and researching this > issue (but you folks inspired this last bout with the great calcium > discussion) cause I just keep confusder and confusder! I was reading > nutrition info for normies about role of carbs in nutrition, role of protein, > etc., and right there in two separate articles they were saying that protein > in excess (of exactly what I dunno) can cause increased loss in stored > minerals in particular calcium and could be a contriubutor to Osteo. > > I have to say that I had never read that before. I think they were giving > their ratio of .8g per lb of desirable bodyweight as a guide for intake on a > daily basis. I am just wondering if of you knowledgeable folks had read all > this and what is your take on it? Ok as I am typing this I am thinking " I > better be ready to post a link to that info. " So in advance I will go and > find it again to be prepared. > > I just had my two year labs completed and protein is fine, blood calcium is > fine but I do the super duper whammer jammer calcium pills with mag and D. > On the other hand the only thing really outta line is that D is a tad on the > high side. My printout said that the range should 15-60 pg/ml and mine is > 65. So I guess I just need to do reg calcium and magnesium for awhile. > > Dan Slone > Surgery 5/2/2000 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2002 Report Share Posted August 12, 2002 That .8g per KG of body weight is an oldie. For someone in muscle wasting (us), it was 1.2 per KG. The latest trend is 1 g per 1#. Wouldn't that be handy for someone in MY line of work with pre-ops in the 400-500 range? I don't think so! 1 to 1 isn't right for me, I need more. For one of you boys who's parked near 200#, that'd be a little steep, unless you were under a trainer to focus it specifically. Any more, in my heart of hearts,. I don't think 60g is enough for anyone but purely restrictive. I don't think a man should be doing less than 120g. But you asked for opinions. There's mine. And MY man gets closer to 180g a day. (Like he has a choice?) I'm referring to supplements only, as the only fairly " sure thing " in measuring. Any food proteins would be added to the total according to your beliefs. Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Protein and Calcium > In a message dated 8/12/2002 3:47:06 PM Central Standard Time, > 71160@... writes: > > > > I do 150 g of protein a day, but I'm in the Maintaining mode. I was SUPPOSED > > to do 150 g a day in the losing mode also, but was a very bad girl! > > > Yanno? Perhaps I should stop digging around and reading and researching this > issue (but you folks inspired this last bout with the great calcium > discussion) cause I just keep confusder and confusder! I was reading > nutrition info for normies about role of carbs in nutrition, role of protein, > etc., and right there in two separate articles they were saying that protein > in excess (of exactly what I dunno) can cause increased loss in stored > minerals in particular calcium and could be a contriubutor to Osteo. > > I have to say that I had never read that before. I think they were giving > their ratio of .8g per lb of desirable bodyweight as a guide for intake on a > daily basis. I am just wondering if of you knowledgeable folks had read all > this and what is your take on it? Ok as I am typing this I am thinking " I > better be ready to post a link to that info. " So in advance I will go and > find it again to be prepared. > > I just had my two year labs completed and protein is fine, blood calcium is > fine but I do the super duper whammer jammer calcium pills with mag and D. > On the other hand the only thing really outta line is that D is a tad on the > high side. My printout said that the range should 15-60 pg/ml and mine is > 65. So I guess I just need to do reg calcium and magnesium for awhile. > > Dan Slone > Surgery 5/2/2000 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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