Re: DAN controversy....

[Guest guest]

for anyone who is interested (cant do this mineself, it would take

several yrs of saving just to GET to Boston lol) in bringing

attention to this issue at DAN! conference this could work well.

set up a booth OUTSIDE the conference rooms... name it " the Enzymes

that DAN!does not want you to know about.. step right up and find out

why "

that would be a curiosity.. people would go to see what it was all

about... and the booth would be free... and you would have everyone

who goes to the DAN! conference walking right past your booth, they

couldnt miss it if it was just outside the front doors....

the labels, 'name tags' idea is excellent! and then the person could

have literature, such as the parents report, or something smaller and

direct persons to this group.

when there is a will there is a way...

it would be sort of like the idea of the " alternative summit " when

the protesters set up meetings at those world trade summits....

minna

> *Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean people aren't against

you.*

> I can't say I Know allot about this issue, and we are not

going to this

> con., but it seems that the important moral issue here is that

parents going

> to this conference looking for help for their kids will not be

informed of

> all their options for treatment.(and paying big $$$$ for the

privilege)

> Perhaps someone can come up with some way to get around this.

I know

> that DAN will not allow literature to be distributed at the

conference, but

> I don't see how they could stop people from distributing it

privatly......

> Also could stickers be made that say HELLO MY NAME

IS:............MEMBER OF:

> ENZYMESANDAUTISM.COM Many home computer systems w/printers could

do this.

> That would at least get the name out there and give people an

opportunity to

> ask questions. If their are enough group members going to the

conference it

> may also get the message across to the DAN guys.

> Just throwing out some ideas-- G.

> PS: don't forget that people espousing conspiracy theories often

sound like

> wackos to everyone else. After all, ignorance is bliss, if only

for as long

> as it can be maintained. Also, don't forget to blame the victim,

and trust

> the government/Doctors/religious leaders, since they know what's

> ***EEYUCK...Hal has just arrived at my side with a poopy diaper

trailing

> from one ANKLE!! My just reward for advising all of you to be calm

and

> rational...and then going off on a rant of my own!!! gotta

go!!!!! YUCK***

>

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[Guest guest]

Setting up associated meetings are called Satellite Conferences and

they are very legitimate and done all the time.

Thanks everyone. We will just keep at it. In spite of all the non-

help we get from every growing Establishment.

Dana wrote that the best products don't always win, it is who has the

good marketing and dollars, and here Kirkmans wins handsdown. They

roll in adjectives, just like Martha . She can make shoveling

manure sound like a refreshing walk through the glorious autumn

countryside.

Don't get me wrong, some of the the products are good, but some are

not that great and I have gone round and round with them many times

when they wanted me to say certain things about their supplements

or " overlook " other things. I just have to question EVERYTHING now.

Especially since they are marketing their enzymes with the parents'

data which wasn't even on their products (by their request by the

way, Kirkman didn't want the parents testing their stuff will all

foods).

Dana wrote:

" Dave Humphrey of Kirkman Labs is an attorney, so I sincerely doubt

he would do anything which would blatantly subject his company to

litigation. "

However, we all know that court is not as much about being right as

about having winning odds and having a slick arguement. And the odds

are very well known that Kirkman has a ton of money and I don't,

having given up my regular work to focus on enzyme work for a year.

Their senior technician told me last October that money isn't a

concern for them, they have so much that they just moved into a nice

building twice as big and could go the next 5 years without selling

anything else. I was stunned and thought, " Then why are your enzymes

the most expensive and couldn't you drop the price a few bucks for

the parents. " With that kind of buying power, you can own a fair

share of the biomedical autism industry. Yes, I did copyright the

data and the entire report BUT, there is no money to enforce it and

everyone involved knows it. Just let people know what's going on,

that's what we can do.

Well, my next post will be back to something useful!

.

[Guest guest]

what i have figured after years of dog fighting various things, is

that you are just better to avoid it and keep moving ahead

the net is a major thing that empowers indivduals comapared to

corporate might

copyrights are a lost cause patents are not. the thing to watch is

unfriendly patent action by graspingcorps as they try to lock out or

even steal others work. microsoft and other companies recently tried

this in the software arena by claiming patents on software

implementations whcih is a load of nonsesnse since software is by it

nature exremely co-dependent. however they were unsuccessful i think

the nature of the medium defeated them, it may be that supplements

are the same, everything is so co-dependent that it can't be done.

we could simply be at the dawn of a new age of empowerment of

individuals at the expense of oppressivecorp whici is really a

restoration of the staus quo to before the turn of the century or the

industrial revolution where technology amplfyed

social/commercial/political abilites at the expense of individuals.

so it maybe they are already beaten, so pick your targets for

remedial action carefully and time is often better spent progressing

your own knowledge and experience, thats what makes the difference in

the end.

though the secretin patent did definetly slow secretin devlopment

drastically. all those stupid parents who bought shares in the

company.

> " Dave Humphrey of Kirkman Labs is an attorney, so I sincerely

doubt

> he would do anything which would blatantly subject his company to

> litigation. "

>

> However, we all know that court is not as much about being right

as

> about having winning odds and having a slick arguement. And the

odds

> are very well known that Kirkman has a ton of money and I don't,

> having given up my regular work to focus on enzyme work for a

year.

> Their senior technician told me last October that money isn't a

> concern for them, they have so much that they just moved into a

nice

> building twice as big and could go the next 5 years without

selling

> anything else. I was stunned and thought, " Then why are your

enzymes

> the most expensive and couldn't you drop the price a few bucks for

> the parents. " With that kind of buying power, you can own a fair

> share of the biomedical autism industry. Yes, I did copyright the

> data and the entire report BUT, there is no money to enforce it

and

> everyone involved knows it. Just let people know what's going on,

> that's what we can do.

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> Well, my next post will be back to something useful!

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