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-----Original Message-----

From: Vitalady

We are PROS at self-flagellation, are we not?

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Okay, okay, I know I am gonna get flamed here, but I just gotta know! We

talk about everything else on this list and I am sure that someone here must

have some experience along these lines, I just need to know if this is any

fun before I try it?

Right off the bat it sounds like something my mother would have not wanted

me to do as a child. She probably would have worried about my eyesight or

something!

More seriously :-) I just had the thought cross my mind when we talk about

various foods, or whipping our already well flogged emotional selves for a

bite of this or that, that this is truly food obsession right in front of

me! I dunno where I am in this journey exactly, nor do I come close to

having my bearings all the time, (I am not sure I would want to either), but

it occurs to me that this is almost akin to passing a moral judgment on an

inanimate object. That does not seem to be within rhyme or reason when I

think about it.

I do not want to live the rest of my life food obsessed if I can help it. I

just need to understand for me that a cookie is not gonna take me to the

grave, nor is a piece of wonderful apple pie. Four bags of cookies per day

along with three pies and the accoutrement that goes along with all this

will take me there. Wandering through the kitchen aimlessly standing in

front of the fridge when I really need to either be talking to my wife about

what is on my mind, or out in the shop doing something constructive will

also usher me down to the parlor before I am ready to go.

We spend an awful lot of time talking about food, even particular foods and

how they may or may not affect us and usually it is associated with some

negative emotion attached to it. Seems to me that talking about healthy

nutrition, supplementing what we need that we do not get because of surgery

etc., is not in the same category as food " obsession. "

I think I will not be food obsessed this afternoon. I think I will get the

ladder and change out all those expired exterior lights and try and chant my

personal mantra recently adopted as per Ceep - " GO LIVE LIFE, GO LIVE LIFE. "

I will think about indulging of some of the self flagellation stuff whilst

on the ladder too. Hmmmmmmmmm

Dan Slone

Surgery 5/2/2000

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