Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 In a message dated 9/10/2002 2:49:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, chrysalis@... writes: << Can you tell I feel passionately about this?? Damn straight. I am competing in my fifth triathlon in less than two weeks, and I run 3 miles 3 times per week, swim 3/4 of a mile 2 days per week, and bike an average of 25 to 40 miles per week. >> I agree with you. I run three miles per day and love it. BTW I am 51. Good Luck in the triathlon. I just run for fun, but I would hate like everything to give it up. From what I have read, weight bearing activity makes your bones stronger, not weaker. Did I miss something? Bill in WV Open RNY July 7, 1999 Dr. Harvey J. Sugerman Medical College of Virginia, Richmond VA Preop Weight 423 Current Weight 211 212 lbs. gone but certainly not forgotten. Check out my website at:http://openrny.homestead.com/WLS.htmlhttp://openrny.homestead.com/WLS.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 In a message dated 9/10/2002 2:49:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, chrysalis@... writes: << Can you tell I feel passionately about this?? Damn straight. I am competing in my fifth triathlon in less than two weeks, and I run 3 miles 3 times per week, swim 3/4 of a mile 2 days per week, and bike an average of 25 to 40 miles per week. >> I agree with you. I run three miles per day and love it. BTW I am 51. Good Luck in the triathlon. I just run for fun, but I would hate like everything to give it up. From what I have read, weight bearing activity makes your bones stronger, not weaker. Did I miss something? Bill in WV Open RNY July 7, 1999 Dr. Harvey J. Sugerman Medical College of Virginia, Richmond VA Preop Weight 423 Current Weight 211 212 lbs. gone but certainly not forgotten. Check out my website at:http://openrny.homestead.com/WLS.htmlhttp://openrny.homestead.com/WLS.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Kate, It's any exercise that puts weight on the bones and joints. Good or bad depends on how much weight you are putting on your bone and joint structures and their condition. Exercises like jogging will place more weight on your bones then walking due to the constant pounding while running vs. the lighter stepping you do while walking. Weight lifting would be considered weight bearing. I don't know how weight resistance exercises are categorized and would assume it would depend on the exercise you are doing since you can do them sitting, standing, or laying down. Swimming is not considered a weight bearing exercise so poses no threat to already degrading bones or knee joints. However, if all is healthy with the knees, hips, etck., weight bearing exercise help build bones and muscle. kateseidel@... wrote:Can someone clarify what exactly this phrase means? Is it exercise like walking, jogging, stair climbing where you are lifting your own body weight? Or is it actual weight lifting and training? What would NOT be considered weight bearing exercise - swimming? Kate (who does jogging, stair climbing and weight lifting just to be on the safe side) Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Weight bearing exercise, has to do with any exercise relating to you body weight. Weight lifting is mainly for muscle developement and has actually adverse affects or post RNY patients, who tend to have calcium deficiencies. Jogging (a orthopedic physician's dream world and money pit) is certainly not advisable either for us. Our bodies can be built up to handle this kind of exercise, but just like 'normies' it catches up on you, when you get older, with acute joint problems.... ///Bob 23 years post RNY and enjoying it Weight bearing exercise > Can someone clarify what exactly this phrase means? Is it exercise like walking, jogging, stair climbing where you are lifting your own body weight? Or is it actual weight lifting and training? What would NOT be considered weight bearing exercise - swimming? > > Kate > > (who does jogging, stair climbing and weight lifting just to be on the safe side) > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Weight bearing exercise, has to do with any exercise relating to you body weight. Weight lifting is mainly for muscle developement and has actually adverse affects or post RNY patients, who tend to have calcium deficiencies. Jogging (a orthopedic physician's dream world and money pit) is certainly not advisable either for us. Our bodies can be built up to handle this kind of exercise, but just like 'normies' it catches up on you, when you get older, with acute joint problems.... ///Bob 23 years post RNY and enjoying it Weight bearing exercise > Can someone clarify what exactly this phrase means? Is it exercise like walking, jogging, stair climbing where you are lifting your own body weight? Or is it actual weight lifting and training? What would NOT be considered weight bearing exercise - swimming? > > Kate > > (who does jogging, stair climbing and weight lifting just to be on the safe side) > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Swimming doesn't count, darnit. LIGHT wts can include soup cans & such. For the totally sedentary, very light weights area g ood start. And I mean LIGHT weights. Don says the weights I use at the gym are what the muscle heads use for toothpicks. Well, even so, the idea is to make the bones wake up & regenerate, and make my muscles think they have a job. I don't want to scare them tinier than they are so, dinky wts for me, gradual increase. Inky dinky wts. Thanks, Vitalady T www.vitalady.com Weight bearing exercise > Can someone clarify what exactly this phrase means? Is it exercise like walking, jogging, stair climbing where you are lifting your own body weight? Or is it actual weight lifting and training? What would NOT be considered weight bearing exercise - swimming? > > Kate > > (who does jogging, stair climbing and weight lifting just to be on the safe side) > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 So then pretty much ANY exercise you do, if you do it with your body, is a weight-bearing exercise?? I'm no expert here, but I believe maximum benefits to increasing your bone density means doing exercise that directly stresses (and builds) the muscles and bones and ligaments supporting our frames. I think weight lifting falls into this category but I would have my doubts about gardening, strolling thru the mall, and playing ping-pong. All of these " exercises " are weight-bearing, by your definition, but I doubt they would provide the full benefits that other more strenuous exercises would provide. I firmly disagree with your assessment that weight lifting and jogging adversely affect the majority of RNY patients. This is simply a cop-out used by those who do not care to exercise.... " My doctor said after my surgery I'm too delicate to exercise... " Kind of like saying a heart patient can't ever have sex again, as it's too strenuous. Bullshit! If you don't want to exercise, fine, nobody is going to strap you into a Bowflex and whip you with a jump rope until you do it...but to say that the majority of WLS patients would be adversely affected by these types of exercise is downright irresponsible dissemination of mis-information. Can you tell I feel passionately about this?? Damn straight. I am competing in my fifth triathlon in less than two weeks, and I run 3 miles 3 times per week, swim 3/4 of a mile 2 days per week, and bike an average of 25 to 40 miles per week. I'm 44, a granny, and I've never been healthier or happier in my life. You can sit there in your rocker and claim you are too old, it's too strenuous, blah blah blah, but not me! I'm going to be out there LIVING my life! KC Re: Weight bearing exercise Weight bearing exercise, has to do with any exercise relating to you body weight. Weight lifting is mainly for muscle developement and has actually adverse affects or post RNY patients, who tend to have calcium deficiencies. Jogging (a orthopedic physician's dream world and money pit) is certainly not advisable either for us. Our bodies can be built up to handle this kind of exercise, but just like 'normies' it catches up on you, when you get older, with acute joint problems.... ///Bob 23 years post RNY and enjoying it Weight bearing exercise > Can someone clarify what exactly this phrase means? Is it exercise like walking, jogging, stair climbing where you are lifting your own body weight? Or is it actual weight lifting and training? What would NOT be considered weight bearing exercise - swimming? > > Kate > > (who does jogging, stair climbing and weight lifting just to be on the safe side) > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 So then pretty much ANY exercise you do, if you do it with your body, is a weight-bearing exercise?? I'm no expert here, but I believe maximum benefits to increasing your bone density means doing exercise that directly stresses (and builds) the muscles and bones and ligaments supporting our frames. I think weight lifting falls into this category but I would have my doubts about gardening, strolling thru the mall, and playing ping-pong. All of these " exercises " are weight-bearing, by your definition, but I doubt they would provide the full benefits that other more strenuous exercises would provide. I firmly disagree with your assessment that weight lifting and jogging adversely affect the majority of RNY patients. This is simply a cop-out used by those who do not care to exercise.... " My doctor said after my surgery I'm too delicate to exercise... " Kind of like saying a heart patient can't ever have sex again, as it's too strenuous. Bullshit! If you don't want to exercise, fine, nobody is going to strap you into a Bowflex and whip you with a jump rope until you do it...but to say that the majority of WLS patients would be adversely affected by these types of exercise is downright irresponsible dissemination of mis-information. Can you tell I feel passionately about this?? Damn straight. I am competing in my fifth triathlon in less than two weeks, and I run 3 miles 3 times per week, swim 3/4 of a mile 2 days per week, and bike an average of 25 to 40 miles per week. I'm 44, a granny, and I've never been healthier or happier in my life. You can sit there in your rocker and claim you are too old, it's too strenuous, blah blah blah, but not me! I'm going to be out there LIVING my life! KC Re: Weight bearing exercise Weight bearing exercise, has to do with any exercise relating to you body weight. Weight lifting is mainly for muscle developement and has actually adverse affects or post RNY patients, who tend to have calcium deficiencies. Jogging (a orthopedic physician's dream world and money pit) is certainly not advisable either for us. Our bodies can be built up to handle this kind of exercise, but just like 'normies' it catches up on you, when you get older, with acute joint problems.... ///Bob 23 years post RNY and enjoying it Weight bearing exercise > Can someone clarify what exactly this phrase means? Is it exercise like walking, jogging, stair climbing where you are lifting your own body weight? Or is it actual weight lifting and training? What would NOT be considered weight bearing exercise - swimming? > > Kate > > (who does jogging, stair climbing and weight lifting just to be on the safe side) > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 So then pretty much ANY exercise you do, if you do it with your body, is a weight-bearing exercise?? I'm no expert here, but I believe maximum benefits to increasing your bone density means doing exercise that directly stresses (and builds) the muscles and bones and ligaments supporting our frames. I think weight lifting falls into this category but I would have my doubts about gardening, strolling thru the mall, and playing ping-pong. All of these " exercises " are weight-bearing, by your definition, but I doubt they would provide the full benefits that other more strenuous exercises would provide. I firmly disagree with your assessment that weight lifting and jogging adversely affect the majority of RNY patients. This is simply a cop-out used by those who do not care to exercise.... " My doctor said after my surgery I'm too delicate to exercise... " Kind of like saying a heart patient can't ever have sex again, as it's too strenuous. Bullshit! If you don't want to exercise, fine, nobody is going to strap you into a Bowflex and whip you with a jump rope until you do it...but to say that the majority of WLS patients would be adversely affected by these types of exercise is downright irresponsible dissemination of mis-information. Can you tell I feel passionately about this?? Damn straight. I am competing in my fifth triathlon in less than two weeks, and I run 3 miles 3 times per week, swim 3/4 of a mile 2 days per week, and bike an average of 25 to 40 miles per week. I'm 44, a granny, and I've never been healthier or happier in my life. You can sit there in your rocker and claim you are too old, it's too strenuous, blah blah blah, but not me! I'm going to be out there LIVING my life! KC Re: Weight bearing exercise Weight bearing exercise, has to do with any exercise relating to you body weight. Weight lifting is mainly for muscle developement and has actually adverse affects or post RNY patients, who tend to have calcium deficiencies. Jogging (a orthopedic physician's dream world and money pit) is certainly not advisable either for us. Our bodies can be built up to handle this kind of exercise, but just like 'normies' it catches up on you, when you get older, with acute joint problems.... ///Bob 23 years post RNY and enjoying it Weight bearing exercise > Can someone clarify what exactly this phrase means? Is it exercise like walking, jogging, stair climbing where you are lifting your own body weight? Or is it actual weight lifting and training? What would NOT be considered weight bearing exercise - swimming? > > Kate > > (who does jogging, stair climbing and weight lifting just to be on the safe side) > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Here Here, KC!! Weight bearing exercises and weight training keeps you from losing bone mass and does help increase bone density. Not to mention the 101 good effects on your muscle infrastructure and cardio benefits. And...fat is burned in the muscle cells. They are your weight burning engines...the more muscle you have the more fat you burn. I love being lean and mean...and a weight trainer at 54! (Throwing KC into the cold pool to cool her down....and don't mess with me because I lift....how's this for a bicep?? hugs, Carol G Lap RNY 8/24/01 -143 " If you always do whatcha always did, you will always get whatcha always got " ~*~ Website: www.carollis.com ~*~ Proverbs " As you think, so shall you manifest " ~*~ Dr. Philip McGraw, " If you choose the behavior, accept the consequence. " -- Re: Weight bearing exercise Weight bearing exercise, has to do with any exercise relating to you body weight. Weight lifting is mainly for muscle developement and has actually adverse affects or post RNY patients, who tend to have calcium deficiencies. Jogging (a orthopedic physician's dream world and money pit) is certainly not advisable either for us. Our bodies can be built up to handle this kind of exercise, but just like 'normies' it catches up on you, when you get older, with acute joint problems.... ///Bob 23 years post RNY and enjoying it Weight bearing exercise > Can someone clarify what exactly this phrase means? Is it exercise like walking, jogging, stair climbing where you are lifting your own body weight? Or is it actual weight lifting and training? What would NOT be considered weight bearing exercise - swimming? > > Kate > > (who does jogging, stair climbing and weight lifting just to be on the safe side) > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Here Here, KC!! Weight bearing exercises and weight training keeps you from losing bone mass and does help increase bone density. Not to mention the 101 good effects on your muscle infrastructure and cardio benefits. And...fat is burned in the muscle cells. They are your weight burning engines...the more muscle you have the more fat you burn. I love being lean and mean...and a weight trainer at 54! (Throwing KC into the cold pool to cool her down....and don't mess with me because I lift....how's this for a bicep?? hugs, Carol G Lap RNY 8/24/01 -143 " If you always do whatcha always did, you will always get whatcha always got " ~*~ Website: www.carollis.com ~*~ Proverbs " As you think, so shall you manifest " ~*~ Dr. Philip McGraw, " If you choose the behavior, accept the consequence. " -- Re: Weight bearing exercise Weight bearing exercise, has to do with any exercise relating to you body weight. Weight lifting is mainly for muscle developement and has actually adverse affects or post RNY patients, who tend to have calcium deficiencies. Jogging (a orthopedic physician's dream world and money pit) is certainly not advisable either for us. Our bodies can be built up to handle this kind of exercise, but just like 'normies' it catches up on you, when you get older, with acute joint problems.... ///Bob 23 years post RNY and enjoying it Weight bearing exercise > Can someone clarify what exactly this phrase means? Is it exercise like walking, jogging, stair climbing where you are lifting your own body weight? Or is it actual weight lifting and training? What would NOT be considered weight bearing exercise - swimming? > > Kate > > (who does jogging, stair climbing and weight lifting just to be on the safe side) > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Why? Alice The Loon RNY 12/28/00 ......has actually adverse affects or post RNY patients..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Or........that could be fun if it's the right person with the rope! Alice The Loon RNY 12/28/00 .....nobody is going to strap you into a Bowflex and whip you > with a jump rope until you do it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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