Re: Devin - Can you explain Boron issue...

[Guest guest]

Boron is a trace element that is regulated by the body very tightly.

It can be toxic in high amounts, but a deficiency can be problematic

also. We get enough boron from leafy veggies, non-citrus fruits, and

legumes.

I don't know what the connection between boron and phenolics would

be, I looked in the med literature but found no clear relationship.

Devin

> Devin -

>

> I read in a few places that boron may negatively impact autistic

kids.

> I had sent away for the one book I really found on the internet that

> seemed to address the issue but you almost had to be a PhD in

chemistry

> to understand it...way too complicated for non-chemistry gurus.

I had

> to order the book from Australia...it wasn't available in the US.

The

> book was called: Boron, Phenols and Health: Clues to the

Mysteries of

> ADD, Alzheimer's, Asthma. by Duncan (1995). The ISBN was

> 0-646-26612-8.

>

> It's just that I know our kids need minerals...but, should boron be

one

> of them? Or is this one we should really avoid...if yes, could you

> explain why?

>

> Thanks.

>

> Jeanne A. Brohart

> http://www.autismhelpforyou.com/

[Guest guest]

hmmmm... my son was EXTREMELY high in Boron on our first hair test. Never

did explain why that was.

Terri

At 10:18 PM 3/12/02 +0000, you wrote:

>Boron is a trace element that is regulated by the body very tightly.

>It can be toxic in high amounts, but a deficiency can be problematic

>also. We get enough boron from leafy veggies, non-citrus fruits, and

>legumes.

>I don't know what the connection between boron and phenolics would

>be, I looked in the med literature but found no clear relationship.

>Devin

>

>

> > Devin -

> >

> > I read in a few places that boron may negatively impact autistic

>kids.

> > I had sent away for the one book I really found on the internet that

> > seemed to address the issue but you almost had to be a PhD in

>chemistry

> > to understand it...way too complicated for non-chemistry gurus.

>I had

> > to order the book from Australia...it wasn't available in the US.

>The

> > book was called: Boron, Phenols and Health: Clues to the

>Mysteries of

> > ADD, Alzheimer's, Asthma. by Duncan (1995). The ISBN was

> > 0-646-26612-8.

> >

> > It's just that I know our kids need minerals...but, should boron be

>one

> > of them? Or is this one we should really avoid...if yes, could you

> > explain why?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Jeanne A. Brohart

> > <http://www.autismhelpforyou.com/>http://www.autismhelpforyou.com/

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was reviewing my son's hair test results yesterday. He also has

excess boron. I had written to Willis about giving us additional

help with our son's issues. He mentioned that excess boron

interferes with the metabolism (breakdown and excretion) of phenols,

and usually elevates copper. (My son has low copper.) It also

reduces vitamin B6. He said to avoid supplemental boron and limit

boron rich foods: apples, pears, grapes, nuts, leafy green

vegetables, and legumes. He also said that supplying these

substances, especially apples, pears, and grapes, or their juices, in

large amounts to PST deficient children, will cause a build up of

phenols, amines, salicylates, and other toxic substances normally

cleared by PST. Rose

-- In @y..., autismhelpforyou <autismhelpforyou@c...>

wrote:

> Devin -

>

> I read in a few places that boron may negatively impact autistic

kids.

> I had sent away for the one book I really found on the internet that

> seemed to address the issue but you almost had to be a PhD in

chemistry

> to understand it...way too complicated for non-chemistry gurus.

I had

> to order the book from Australia...it wasn't available in the US.

The

> book was called: Boron, Phenols and Health: Clues to the

Mysteries of

> ADD, Alzheimer's, Asthma. by Duncan (1995). The ISBN was

> 0-646-26612-8.

>

> It's just that I know our kids need minerals...but, should boron be

one

> of them? Or is this one we should really avoid...if yes, could you

> explain why?

>

> Thanks.

>

> Jeanne A. Brohart

> http://www.autismhelpforyou.com/

[Guest guest]

I have no idea what high boron means, but from what I've read boron is a

light trace element that is essential to human health and behavior. It's

important in brain function, especially in enhancing memory, cognitive

function, and hand-eye coordination. Boron is also essential for

magnesium and calcium metabolism. It improves the retention of these

two. I believe it has something to do with the status of the vitamin B2,

which also affects the relationship between calcium and

magnesium.

Also, I know there is a relationship between boron and methionine,

but... sorry I can't remember anymore what I read about this... I guess

the idea was that when a person is low in magnesium and methionine it

affects the way the body will use

boron... something like this... I'm not sure...

I didn't hear anything about boron and phenols though... I have no idea

what connection might be here... Maybe this is influenced in some other

way... I don't know... All these elements work together and there's

always a lot more involved when one of them is low or high...

The highest concentrations of boron are found in the drinking water and

soil of dry climate areas.

Hope this helps...

Valentina