Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 Hi all, The mask look is normal for MSA, but it is caused by a lack of muscle control rather than apathy. Apathy is probably another symptom of MSA as said, as is depression. Anyone who starts losing all muscle control must get depressed, I would! Yes the patient needs to fight all the symptoms of MSA as well as possible. Things we tried with Charlotte seemed to help follow. Patients must exercise the mind as well as the body to fight apathy and depression. Charlotte learned to use the computer at about the age of 55, four years after being diagnosed as PD - while still working. Later she played card games like hearts and solitaire on the computer, this exercised her mind and eye - hand coordination. Some studies have been mentioned about doing mazes to help balance, this is exercising the brain and certainly can not hurt. Do your exercises (especially speech) while watching yourself in a mirror and work on getting expression in your face while speaking. Caregivers, remind your patients that they need to do their exercises and work with them as much as possible. Get the patients outdoors as much as possible, this helps with the fight against depression. Try to get friends to visit more often, I know this is a chore as friends want to avoid you as they do not know what to say to you. Charlotte and I made some of our best friends here on the list. Group meetings DO help, Charlotte was greatly improved after her first visit with the Moller's in 1999. We tried to get to the Zoo several times a year especially spring and fall. Museums are a place to go in rainy or inclement weather, especially with family. Malls offer another place for seeing people and just getting out of the house when the weather is bad. Social gatherings at church are good and may help get people to interact with both the caregiver and patient, especially for those in small rural areas. Social contact ALWAYS helped Charlotte's spirits. Even if it tired her out, she was happier after a day at our daughter's. I am sure she had a great time on Thanksgiving Day seeing the whole family, even if it was the last full day of her life. The Oregon support group started with picnic like meetings in a park and we of the DC group at considering a picnic this spring. We are going to push for children and grandchildren to be there too as we can all support each other. Since Charlotte's death I have seen that my natural daughter never really faced the fact that Charlotte would ever die, after all she made it through several crises periods before. Learn from my experience and involve the kids more. Just warning them that there is always a chance of death everyday is not enough. Remember that teens always believe they can live forever, and we all know that anyone of us can die anytime. and Rose travel over 100 miles to attend a support group meeting with the DC group. This helps them get social interaction with others in the same situation, but remember that there are many other diseases and disorders that have some or all of the same problems. I see the same questions on the CBGD list as I see here and know that MS and ALS patients have many of the same problems as us. And they all feel as isolated as MSA patients/caregivers feel. Take care and remember our motto " Use it or lose it " Hugs, Bill Werre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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