Re: Aussies and stem cell research

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Yes, that was their compromise to get the research moving. We reached that

same conclusion in early 2000 and it was the law here in the USA until Bush

changed the law with an Executive Order limiting it to the 65 strains of stem

cells - all of which were grown on mouse cell substrates and are not usable

on humans. Since Bush signed the order, about 30,000 blastocysts have been

destroyed with no good coming of them, would we allow 60,000 hearts which

people offered for use to be flushed down the toilet?

Take care, Bill

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andrea penner wrote:

> >From Today's Chronicle of Higher Education:

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> * THE AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT has announced that it will allow

> scientists to conduct stem-cell research using cell lines

> derived from existing human embryos. However, it prohibits

> the creation of new embryos for scientific purposes.

> --> SEE http://chronicle.com/daily/2002/04/2002040905n.htm

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Yes, that was their compromise to get the research moving. We reached that

same conclusion in early 2000 and it was the law here in the USA until Bush

changed the law with an Executive Order limiting it to the 65 strains of stem

cells - all of which were grown on mouse cell substrates and are not usable

on humans. Since Bush signed the order, about 30,000 blastocysts have been

destroyed with no good coming of them, would we allow 60,000 hearts which

people offered for use to be flushed down the toilet?

Take care, Bill

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andrea penner wrote:

> >From Today's Chronicle of Higher Education:

>

> * THE AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT has announced that it will allow

> scientists to conduct stem-cell research using cell lines

> derived from existing human embryos. However, it prohibits

> the creation of new embryos for scientific purposes.

> --> SEE http://chronicle.com/daily/2002/04/2002040905n.htm

>

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[Guest guest]

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Yes, that was their compromise to get the research moving. We reached that

same conclusion in early 2000 and it was the law here in the USA until Bush

changed the law with an Executive Order limiting it to the 65 strains of stem

cells - all of which were grown on mouse cell substrates and are not usable

on humans. Since Bush signed the order, about 30,000 blastocysts have been

destroyed with no good coming of them, would we allow 60,000 hearts which

people offered for use to be flushed down the toilet?

Take care, Bill

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andrea penner wrote:

> >From Today's Chronicle of Higher Education:

>

> * THE AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT has announced that it will allow

> scientists to conduct stem-cell research using cell lines

> derived from existing human embryos. However, it prohibits

> the creation of new embryos for scientific purposes.

> --> SEE http://chronicle.com/daily/2002/04/2002040905n.htm

>

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[Guest guest]

Similar here in UK, It was always a loophole, Last month an amendment to stop it

was thrown out by the second house (House of Lords). The 'press' of course

presented it as a change in the law. But It was only a clarification

It can and probably will still be stopped if anyone actually does it, but only

then if they fail to get more positive than negative responses in the press.

People whose lives may depend on it, have no say, and thats probably just as it

should be.

So failures will just be kept hidden from view, and so lots more will inevitably

be made.. American firms already do research abroad, It may be a case of where,

but it's not who, how, or when....

-- from Brine

- brian@...>  Written at 19:47:38 on 09-04-2002

I noted that on  Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:19:04 -0400,

b.werre@...> wrote:

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>,

>

>Yes, that was their compromise to get the research moving.  We reached that

>same conclusion in early 2000 and it was the law here in the USA until Bush

>changed the law with an Executive Order limiting it to the 65 strains of stem

>cells - all of which were grown on mouse cell substrates and are not usable

>on humans.  Since Bush signed the order, about 30,000 blastocysts have been

>destroyed with no good coming of them, would we allow 60,000 hearts which

>people offered for use to be flushed down the toilet?

>

>Take care,  Bill

>

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>andrea penner wrote:

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>> >From Today's Chronicle of Higher Education:

>>

>> *  THE AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT has announced that it will allow

>>  scientists to conduct stem-cell research using cell lines

>>  derived from existing human embryos. However, it prohibits

>>  the creation of new embryos for scientific purposes.

>>  --> SEE http://chronicle.com/daily/2002/04/2002040905n.htm

>>

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