Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 I haven't read the book, only the post today and last week on the subject....does each cow have to be tested or is it a breed of cow like holstien, jersey etc. that they all have A2 milk? Thanks Katy ____________________________________________________________ You're never too old to date. Senior Dating. Click Here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 From what I understand, Guernsey cows are something like 90% A2, Jersey's are 40% and " your normal milk in the store (Holsteins?) are 15%. Kelley W. > > I haven't read the book, only the post today and last week on the subject....does each cow have to be tested or is it a breed of cow like holstien, jersey etc. that they all have A2 milk? Thanks Katy > ____________________________________________________________ > You're never too old to date. Senior Dating. Click Here. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTQbQXFGclMVvCs6NyC9yO8NhiydxBh\ 4AvIKAPA0Kc9yVmDWIeuUqU/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Hi, Here in Australia we have a a brand of cows milk called a2 milk. We recently started using it after reading the article below. It makes really good and thick yoghurt compared to the normal cows milk we used to use. It is also good to know that not only are we eating lactose free yoghurt but also it is the casien we can digest. Plus you do not have to resort to goats milk. All my sisters refuse to do the scd diet but I asked them if they are going to give there kids milk, at least give them a2 milk which they have done. It is amazing to me that babies go from having a2 casein in breastmilk to formula or normal a1 casein cows milk. No wonder we end up with all these digestion problems. What would our digestion be like if we had the right digestable casein from the minute we stopped breast feeding. Sky http://simplykristen.com/a2-milk/ To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Saturday, 1 August, 2009 7:44:41 AMSubject: Re: A2milk From what I understand, Guernsey cows are something like 90% A2, Jersey's are 40% and "your normal milk in the store (Holsteins?) are 15%.Kelley W.>> I haven't read the book, only the post today and last week on the subject....does each cow have to be tested or is it a breed of cow like holstien, jersey etc. that they all have A2 milk? Thanks Katy> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> You're never too old to date. Senior Dating. Click Here.> http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTQbQXFG clMVvCs6NyC9yO8N hiydxBh4AvIKAPA0 Kc9yVmDWIeuUqU/> Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 The place where I get my milk is a working dairy farm, one of the few left in New England, luckily right in the town where I live. There is a 2 day turnaround from the time the cow is milked 'till the time it is on the shelf (fridge). They also have a bakery that utilizes their cream to make a lot of the pastries, among other things. It is not organic, but 'natural', meaning no hormones and the owner told me the only time they use antibiotics is if a cow has mastitis and they hold the milk from that cow on that day. They add nothing to the milk, not even Vits A & D and it is the best tasting milk I have ever had--it makes fantastic yogurt. Best of all, it's $3.50 a gallon. Also close to me is a woman who sells raw goat's milk from her house/farm for $6.00 a gallon which I tried when I started SCD and the milk tasted like cow's milk and the yogurt tasted the same to me, but was a little runnier. So I went back to my 's Farm milk. I am so bummed to learn about this A2 thing-- all they have are Holsteins. Unbelieveable. http://www.wrightsdairyfarm.com/farm.htm Terry Re: A2milk From what I understand, Guernsey cows are something like 90% A2, Jersey's are 40% and "your normal milk in the store (Holsteins?) are 15%.Kelley W.>> I haven't read the book, only the post today and last week on the subject....does each cow have to be tested or is it a breed of cow like holstien, jersey etc. that they all have A2 milk? Thanks Katy> __________________________________________________________> You're never too old to date. Senior Dating. Click Here.> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTQbQXFGclMVvCs6NyC9yO8NhiydxBh4AvIKAPA0Kc9yVmDWIeuUqU/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 At 08:56 PM 7/31/2009, you wrote: I am so bummed to learn about this A2 thing-- all they have are Holsteins. Unbelieveable. Keep in mind that while you might want to move in the direction of A2 milk eventually, many thousands have gotten well using plain store-bought pasteurized milk to make their SCD yogurt. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Thanks Marilyn--you're right, keep it in perspective. 's farm is not a raw milk farm, btw. They only have pasteurized milk. Hope you and your family are hanging in there. Terry Re: Re: A2milk At 08:56 PM 7/31/2009, you wrote: I am so bummed to learn about this A2 thing-- all they have are Holsteins. Unbelieveable.Keep in mind that while you might want to move in the direction of A2 milk eventually, many thousands have gotten well using plain store-bought pasteurized milk to make their SCD yogurt. - Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 What's wrong with Holstiens? I truly don't know. Thanks,Val UC 2007 SCD 6 weeks Asacol 1600 MG I am so bummed to learn about this A2 thing-- all they have are Holsteins. Unbelieveable.Keep in mind that while you might want to move in the direction of A2 milk eventually, many thousands have gotten well using plain store-bought pasteurized milk to make their SCD yogurt. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 At 07:56 AM 8/1/2009, you wrote: What's wrong with Holstiens? I truly don't know. Nothing's wrong with Holsteins.... they produce a fine quality of milk. However, some people are concerned about A1 and A2 casein. The majority of people do not have to worry about it. Many thousands of people have gotten well on SCD without worrying about all organic food (which is nice if you can afford it, or are exceptionally sensitive) or the fine details of which casein is where. I did SCD with plain old grocery-store meats and conventionally raised vegetables for several years. I have chosen, over the last few years, to move to family-farm raised meats and vegetables whenever possible. (This is regardless of whether or not they are organic: one dairy from whom I bought my milk for nearly three years before Hurricane Katrina said the only difference between their pastured milk and organic pastured milk was that they couldn't afford to purchase the organic hay from California, which was where the only certified organic hay was produced for the late months of summer when the grass was drying up and they needed to supplement. I thought about it, and decided I would rather have locally raised hay than spend all the fossil fuels shipping certified organic hay from California to Louisiana.) I try to purchase local, wild-caught fish when I can. Then I supplement with organic foods when they are available and I can afford them. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Same here. was really very ill when we started the diet and it's only been in the past year or two that I've gotten more into grass-fed, pastured, organic, etc. You can most definitely do the diet and heal with just the regular stuff unless you are just really sensitive. Six or eight months into the diet, was doing great. Fistula had healed, no symptoms, started putting weight back on, etc. I think if, in the beginning, I'd tried to worry about organic, grass-fed, etc and tried to find all that stuff as well as learn how to cook this way, learn the "rules", do all the cooking, figure out what he could and couldn't tolerate, I would've lost my mind.I think buying from local farmers is great and I do that whenever I possibly can but sometimes I just don't have the time and/or money.Kimhusband, , CD 1999, SCD 2002 I did SCD with plain old grocery-store meats and conventionally raised vegetables for several years. I have chosen, over the last few years, to move to family-farm raised meats and vegetables whenever possible. I try to purchase local, wild-caught fish when I can. Then I supplement with organic foods when they are available and I can afford them. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 From the Weston A Price Foundation site: >The source of most commercial milk is the modern Holstein,* bred to produce huge quantities of milk--three times as much as the old-fashioned cow. She needs special feed >and antibiotics to keep her well. Her milk contains high levels of growth hormone from her pituitary gland, even when she is spared the indignities of genetically engineered >Bovine Growth Hormone to push her to the udder limits of milk production. >*Please note, there are farmers who produce excellent " Real Milk " using older lines of Holsteins and Holstein crosses. It is the modern commercial Holstein, bred only for >quantity, not quality, and pumped full of hormones and antibiotics, that should be avoided. Know your supplier! Ask questions! For more, see: http://www.realmilk.com/what.html and www.westonaprice.org n From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of Wizop Marilyn L. Alm Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:24 AM To: BTVC-SCD Subject: Re: Re: A2milk At 07:56 AM 8/1/2009, you wrote: What's wrong with Holstiens? I truly don't know. Nothing's wrong with Holsteins.... they produce a fine quality of milk. However, some people are concerned about A1 and A2 casein. The majority of people do not have to worry about it. Many thousands of people have gotten well on SCD without worrying about all organic food (which is nice if you can afford it, or are exceptionally sensitive) or the fine details of which casein is where. I did SCD with plain old grocery-store meats and conventionally raised vegetables for several years. I have chosen, over the last few years, to move to family-farm raised meats and vegetables whenever possible. (This is regardless of whether or not they are organic: one dairy from whom I bought my milk for nearly three years before Hurricane Katrina said the only difference between their pastured milk and organic pastured milk was that they couldn't afford to purchase the organic hay from California, which was where the only certified organic hay was produced for the late months of summer when the grass was drying up and they needed to supplement. I thought about it, and decided I would rather have locally raised hay than spend all the fossil fuels shipping certified organic hay from California to Louisiana.) I try to purchase local, wild-caught fish when I can. Then I supplement with organic foods when they are available and I can afford them. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.39/2275 - Release Date: 08/02/09 05:56:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Are there any commercial a2 milks sold in the US? heather UC 12y, SCD 6m RE: Re: A2milk From the Weston A Price Foundation site: >The source of most commercial milk is the modern Holstein,* bred to produce huge quantities of milk--three times as much as the old-fashioned cow. She needs special feed >and antibiotics to keep her well. Her milk contains high levels of growth hormone from her pituitary gland, even when she is spared the indignities of genetically engineered >Bovine Growth Hormone to push her to the udder limits of milk production. >*Please note, there are farmers who produce excellent "Real Milk" using older lines of Holsteins and Holstein crosses. It is the modern commercial Holstein, bred only for >quantity, not quality, and pumped full of hormones and antibiotics, that should be avoided. Know your supplier! Ask questions! For more, see: http://www.realmilk.com/what.html and www.westonaprice.org n From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of Wizop Marilyn L. AlmSent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:24 AMTo: BTVC-SCD Subject: Re: Re: A2milk At 07:56 AM 8/1/2009, you wrote: What's wrong with Holstiens? I truly don't know. Nothing's wrong with Holsteins.... they produce a fine quality of milk. However, some people are concerned about A1 and A2 casein.The majority of people do not have to worry about it. Many thousands of people have gotten well on SCD without worrying about all organic food (which is nice if you can afford it, or are exceptionally sensitive) or the fine details of which casein is where.I did SCD with plain old grocery-store meats and conventionally raised vegetables for several years. I have chosen, over the last few years, to move to family-farm raised meats and vegetables whenever possible. (This is regardless of whether or not they are organic: one dairy from whom I bought my milk for nearly three years before Hurricane Katrina said the only difference between their pastured milk and organic pastured milk was that they couldn't afford to purchase the organic hay from California, which was where the only certified organic hay was produced for the late months of summer when the grass was drying up and they needed to supplement. I thought about it, and decided I would rather have locally raised hay than spend all the fossil fuels shipping certified organic hay from California to Louisiana.) I try to purchase local, wild-caught fish when I can. Then I supplement with organic foods when they are available and I can afford them. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.39/2275 - Release Date: 08/02/09 05:56:00 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.42/2278 - Release Date: 08/02/09 17:56:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 This website might help. http://www.a2milk.com/certified.html Sky To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Monday, 3 August, 2009 10:14:30 AMSubject: Re: Re: A2milk Are there any commercial a2 milks sold in the US? heather UC 12y, SCD 6m Re: Re: A2milk At 07:56 AM 8/1/2009, you wrote: What's wrong with Holstiens? I truly don't know. Nothing's wrong with Holsteins... . they produce a fine quality of milk. However, some people are concerned about A1 and A2 casein.The majority of people do not have to worry about it. Many thousands of people have gotten well on SCD without worrying about all organic food (which is nice if you can afford it, or are exceptionally sensitive) or the fine details of which casein is where.I did SCD with plain old grocery-store meats and conventionally raised vegetables for several years. I have chosen, over the last few years, to move to family-farm raised meats and vegetables whenever possible. (This is regardless of whether or not they are organic: one dairy from whom I bought my milk for nearly three years before Hurricane Katrina said the only difference between their pastured milk and organic pastured milk was that they couldn't afford to purchase the organic hay from California, which was where the only certified organic hay was produced for the late months of summer when the grass was drying up and they needed to supplement. I thought about it, and decided I would rather have locally raised hay than spend all the fossil fuels shipping certified organic hay from California to Louisiana.) I try to purchase local, wild-caught fish when I can. Then I supplement with organic foods when they are available and I can afford them. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.39/2275 - Release Date: 08/02/09 05:56:00 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.42/2278 - Release Date: 08/02/09 17:56:00 Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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