liver and gallbladder

[Guest guest]

Seems to me that fat, meat other t6han fish dont agree with me when I have a flare in the liver or gallbladder. So hard to know how to eat...Any suggestions-- JH Celiac Sprue4 years- SCD

" Strength does not come from winningYour struggles develop your strength. "

[Guest guest]

I no longer have a gallbladder, but have a very cranky liver and common bile duct and a touchy pancreas because of having Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction. So I have to be ultra-careful with fats (and fiber and seasonings). I get right upper quadrant symptoms after every meal; I have just learned how to keep things minimal most of the time. Having a chronic digestive dysfunction means the occasional symptom flare despite eating all the right things, because the body works on its own cycle.

I eat more fish and poultry than red meat; don't touch pork or lamb, or any dark meats (too much fat). Can't handle any ground meats either, although last year (after 4 years on SCD) I found I could occasionally tolerate ground bison. The cuts of meat I choose, and how I prepare meat is very critical to preventing major reactions in my liver and upper GI. I bake poultry and beef cuts, or pan-fry. I have to pan-fry fish as baked fish triggers major upper GI reactions from the fat content (I assume). Can't use a crock-pot or stew pot any more as too much fat is retained for my upper GI. Also have trouble with meat broths and soups if I have too much.

Can't touch mayo or cheese or yogurt either. I can't have more than a teaspoon of olive oil or butter at one meal and can't go past an accumulated total of one tablespoon of olive oil or butter per day. Recently started having trouble with gelatin, but not sure if it's the source of the gelatin (pork vs beef; I'm experimenting) or it is just difficult to break down.

When my symptoms are severe, I go to clear liquids for a day or two. I use defatted chicken or turkey broth. Then for a few days more I move to my version of the intro. diet, which is baked chicken (white meat), cooked Italian green beans, scrambled eggs, applesauce, and diluted apple juice. Then I start adding back the rest of the SCD foods that my body tolerates the best, all bland, low-fiber, low-fat, and low-carb.

I do live with right upper quadrant abdominal pain, nausea, right shoulder blade pain. It is just the way my digestion works these days. But thanks to being on SCD I can keep the symptoms minimal most of the time. I still eat well and don't need pain meds. 24/7 as others with my digestive dysfunction do.

Kim M.

SCD 5+ years

Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6 years

neurological deterioration 3 years

[Guest guest]

Every person who has Gallbladder removed should be taking bile salts for life. Unfortunately, doctors forget to tell us.

Lucy (doctor of Chinese medicine)

SCD 4.5 years

colitis

[Guest guest]

I still have my GB and plan to keep it

Every person who has Gallbladder removed should be taking bile salts for life. Unfortunately, doctors forget to tell us.

 

Lucy (doctor of Chinese medicine)

SCD 4.5 years

colitis

-- JH Celiac Sprue4 years- SCD " Strength does not come from winningYour struggles develop your strength. "

[Guest guest]

My husband had his gallbladder removed in 1995, due to being full of

sludge and the misguided theory that the gallbladder was causing

elevated liver enzymes. Nine years later he was found to have primary

sclerosing cholangitis, a rare, autoimmune liver disease that, amongst

other lovely symptoms, makes gallbladders act whacko. When he was

diagnosed in 2004 with the liver disease, he was put on Actigall - bile

acid, as it thins the bile. Will be on it the rest of his life. Never

heard it being used for those missing their gallbladders, but makes

sense.

Fred too, cannot eat much fat at one sitting or he'll become nauseated.

Seems to be worse in the morning. So he's given up his eggs for chicken

soup (not an SCD recipe, but one called "Brasco's Broth"), which seems

to be improving his diarrhea GREATLY, when nothing else has. He had

been on SCD well over 3 months, with very little improvement in the

diarrhea dept, although I'm convinced things would have been even worse

if he were eating a "normal" diet. So we are combining the food that

seems to agree with him from the SCD, with additional supplements and

the chicken soup recipe from another dietary program. Within 6 days of

having a Niagara Falls type flare, he had formed BMs. First time that's

happened since early March. He's on NO western meds currently, as none

have worked this year. Bathroom visits down by 50%. His bowels are

still often loose, but he also has occasional formed BMs. The actual

diarrhea has been gone for almost two weeks, and he's gained 7 pounds.

Unbelievable. We'd about given up hope.

And yes, everyone IS different.

Wife of Fred, UC, 03/06

I had my gallbladder out several years ago and never took bile salts. I

eat anywhere from 80 to 120 grams a fat a day, and do just fine.

Another one of those "everyone is different" things, I guess.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Every person who has Gallbladder removed should be taking bile

salts for life. Unfortunately, doctors forget to tell us.

>

> Lucy (doctor of Chinese medicine)

> SCD 4.5 years

> colitis

-- Hussey

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[Guest guest]

My husband had his gallbladder removed in 1995, due to being full of

sludge and the misguided theory that the gallbladder was causing

elevated liver enzymes. Nine years later he was found to have primary

sclerosing cholangitis, a rare, autoimmune liver disease that, amongst

other lovely symptoms, makes gallbladders act whacko. When he was

diagnosed in 2004 with the liver disease, he was put on Actigall - bile

acid, as it thins the bile. Will be on it the rest of his life. Never

heard it being used for those missing their gallbladders, but makes

sense.

Fred too, cannot eat much fat at one sitting or he'll become nauseated.

Seems to be worse in the morning. So he's given up his eggs for chicken

soup (not an SCD recipe, but one called "Brasco's Broth"), which seems

to be improving his diarrhea GREATLY, when nothing else has. He had

been on SCD well over 3 months, with very little improvement in the

diarrhea dept, although I'm convinced things would have been even worse

if he were eating a "normal" diet. So we are combining the food that

seems to agree with him from the SCD, with additional supplements and

the chicken soup recipe from another dietary program. Within 6 days of

having a Niagara Falls type flare, he had formed BMs. First time that's

happened since early March. He's on NO western meds currently, as none

have worked this year. Bathroom visits down by 50%. His bowels are

still often loose, but he also has occasional formed BMs. The actual

diarrhea has been gone for almost two weeks, and he's gained 7 pounds.

Unbelievable. We'd about given up hope.

And yes, everyone IS different.

Wife of Fred, UC, 03/06

I had my gallbladder out several years ago and never took bile salts. I

eat anywhere from 80 to 120 grams a fat a day, and do just fine.

Another one of those "everyone is different" things, I guess.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Every person who has Gallbladder removed should be taking bile

salts for life. Unfortunately, doctors forget to tell us.

>

> Lucy (doctor of Chinese medicine)

> SCD 4.5 years

> colitis

-- Hussey

Harper Ink

4980 Thornwood Cove

Acworth, GA 30102

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C:

F:

www.harperink.biz

www.shelleyhussey.com

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[Guest guest]

My husband had his gallbladder removed in 1995, due to being full of

sludge and the misguided theory that the gallbladder was causing

elevated liver enzymes. Nine years later he was found to have primary

sclerosing cholangitis, a rare, autoimmune liver disease that, amongst

other lovely symptoms, makes gallbladders act whacko. When he was

diagnosed in 2004 with the liver disease, he was put on Actigall - bile

acid, as it thins the bile. Will be on it the rest of his life. Never

heard it being used for those missing their gallbladders, but makes

sense.

Fred too, cannot eat much fat at one sitting or he'll become nauseated.

Seems to be worse in the morning. So he's given up his eggs for chicken

soup (not an SCD recipe, but one called "Brasco's Broth"), which seems

to be improving his diarrhea GREATLY, when nothing else has. He had

been on SCD well over 3 months, with very little improvement in the

diarrhea dept, although I'm convinced things would have been even worse

if he were eating a "normal" diet. So we are combining the food that

seems to agree with him from the SCD, with additional supplements and

the chicken soup recipe from another dietary program. Within 6 days of

having a Niagara Falls type flare, he had formed BMs. First time that's

happened since early March. He's on NO western meds currently, as none

have worked this year. Bathroom visits down by 50%. His bowels are

still often loose, but he also has occasional formed BMs. The actual

diarrhea has been gone for almost two weeks, and he's gained 7 pounds.

Unbelievable. We'd about given up hope.

And yes, everyone IS different.

Wife of Fred, UC, 03/06

I had my gallbladder out several years ago and never took bile salts. I

eat anywhere from 80 to 120 grams a fat a day, and do just fine.

Another one of those "everyone is different" things, I guess.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Every person who has Gallbladder removed should be taking bile

salts for life. Unfortunately, doctors forget to tell us.

>

> Lucy (doctor of Chinese medicine)

> SCD 4.5 years

> colitis

-- Hussey

Harper Ink

4980 Thornwood Cove

Acworth, GA 30102

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C:

F:

www.harperink.biz

www.shelleyhussey.com

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