Re: SURGERY POSSIBLY POSTPONED BECAUSE OF H PYLORI

[Guest guest]

a,

Im really sorry to hear about your problems. The way I understand it if you test positive for Hpylori you have to go on antibiotic therapy, then redo the endoscopy to ensure it is gone.

In the event that it is necessary to reschedule your surgery, Im sure that you can use a medical clause that airlines honor to have your families tickets reissued for another date (without paying any penalities). Hopefully they will be able to rearrange their vacations to be with you.

Even though Im not in your shoes, I cant wait for surgery myself. Dr. Herron is my surgeon and my consult this this week. I have been planning this for 8 months and I just want to do it and be on the other side. If there is anything I can do to help, feel free to let me know...Im only 20 minutes from Manhattan.

Donna

[Guest guest]

a,

Im really sorry to hear about your problems. The way I understand it if you test positive for Hpylori you have to go on antibiotic therapy, then redo the endoscopy to ensure it is gone.

In the event that it is necessary to reschedule your surgery, Im sure that you can use a medical clause that airlines honor to have your families tickets reissued for another date (without paying any penalities). Hopefully they will be able to rearrange their vacations to be with you.

Even though Im not in your shoes, I cant wait for surgery myself. Dr. Herron is my surgeon and my consult this this week. I have been planning this for 8 months and I just want to do it and be on the other side. If there is anything I can do to help, feel free to let me know...Im only 20 minutes from Manhattan.

Donna

[Guest guest]

a,

Im really sorry to hear about your problems. The way I understand it if you test positive for Hpylori you have to go on antibiotic therapy, then redo the endoscopy to ensure it is gone.

In the event that it is necessary to reschedule your surgery, Im sure that you can use a medical clause that airlines honor to have your families tickets reissued for another date (without paying any penalities). Hopefully they will be able to rearrange their vacations to be with you.

Even though Im not in your shoes, I cant wait for surgery myself. Dr. Herron is my surgeon and my consult this this week. I have been planning this for 8 months and I just want to do it and be on the other side. If there is anything I can do to help, feel free to let me know...Im only 20 minutes from Manhattan.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Will someone please explain this test??

Caroline

> hi. i just got a very depressing phone message from

> diana at dr.

> herron's office. she said that because my h pylori

> test was

> positive that my surgery may need to be pushed back.

> she said

> it's because of treatment and then a follow up

> study. i've been

> so positive up until now (meaning in attitude, not h

> pylori

> positive!) and now my happiness has been dashed to

> the ground.

> did anyone else get positive results for this test

> and what

> resulted from it? were you patients of the mt.

> sinai group?

>

> i feel completely sick to my stomach over this. my

> family has

> already scheduled vacation time and bought plane

> tickets to be

> here for me on the 11th. now i don't know what will

> happen. i

> feel like tearing my heart out.

>

> erika

> 5'2 " , 281.5#, bmi 51.5

> surgery date 5.11.01 11:30 am

> dr. herron

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Will someone please explain this test??

Caroline

> hi. i just got a very depressing phone message from

> diana at dr.

> herron's office. she said that because my h pylori

> test was

> positive that my surgery may need to be pushed back.

> she said

> it's because of treatment and then a follow up

> study. i've been

> so positive up until now (meaning in attitude, not h

> pylori

> positive!) and now my happiness has been dashed to

> the ground.

> did anyone else get positive results for this test

> and what

> resulted from it? were you patients of the mt.

> sinai group?

>

> i feel completely sick to my stomach over this. my

> family has

> already scheduled vacation time and bought plane

> tickets to be

> here for me on the 11th. now i don't know what will

> happen. i

> feel like tearing my heart out.

>

> erika

> 5'2 " , 281.5#, bmi 51.5

> surgery date 5.11.01 11:30 am

> dr. herron

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Will someone please explain this test??

Caroline

> hi. i just got a very depressing phone message from

> diana at dr.

> herron's office. she said that because my h pylori

> test was

> positive that my surgery may need to be pushed back.

> she said

> it's because of treatment and then a follow up

> study. i've been

> so positive up until now (meaning in attitude, not h

> pylori

> positive!) and now my happiness has been dashed to

> the ground.

> did anyone else get positive results for this test

> and what

> resulted from it? were you patients of the mt.

> sinai group?

>

> i feel completely sick to my stomach over this. my

> family has

> already scheduled vacation time and bought plane

> tickets to be

> here for me on the 11th. now i don't know what will

> happen. i

> feel like tearing my heart out.

>

> erika

> 5'2 " , 281.5#, bmi 51.5

> surgery date 5.11.01 11:30 am

> dr. herron

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Thanx ..... sure hope that is not what is wrong

with my stomach!!

CAroline

--- Montgomery marym@...> wrote:

> It's a test to determine if you have the

> Helicobacter pylori (h pylori for

> short) bacterium in your stomach. It causes ulcers.

>

> there are a number of great websites about it-- a

> good one is

> http://www.helico.com/

>

> In the past it was thought that stomach ulcers were

> caused by stress. And

> people had part of their stomach removed to cure the

> ulcers. Once it was

> discovered that h pylori caused a high percent of

> stomach (and duodenal)

> ulcers, it became possible to cure them with

> antibiotics. Revolutionized

> treatment for ulcers. I would imagine that

> operating with this bacterium

> flourishing in your stomach and GI tract would put

> you at risk for having it

> become worse. Best to eliminate it pre op.

>

> in Seattle

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

>

> > Will someone please explain this test??

> > Caroline

> >

> > > hi. i just got a very depressing phone message

> from

> > > diana at dr.

> > > herron's office. she said that because my h

> pylori

> > > test was

> > > positive that my surgery may need to be pushed

> back.

> > > she said

> > > it's because of treatment and then a follow up

> > > study. i've been

> > > so positive up until now (meaning in attitude,

> not h

> > > pylori

> > > positive!) and now my happiness has been dashed

> to

> > > the ground.

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Thanx ..... sure hope that is not what is wrong

with my stomach!!

CAroline

--- Montgomery marym@...> wrote:

> It's a test to determine if you have the

> Helicobacter pylori (h pylori for

> short) bacterium in your stomach. It causes ulcers.

>

> there are a number of great websites about it-- a

> good one is

> http://www.helico.com/

>

> In the past it was thought that stomach ulcers were

> caused by stress. And

> people had part of their stomach removed to cure the

> ulcers. Once it was

> discovered that h pylori caused a high percent of

> stomach (and duodenal)

> ulcers, it became possible to cure them with

> antibiotics. Revolutionized

> treatment for ulcers. I would imagine that

> operating with this bacterium

> flourishing in your stomach and GI tract would put

> you at risk for having it

> become worse. Best to eliminate it pre op.

>

> in Seattle

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

>

> > Will someone please explain this test??

> > Caroline

> >

> > > hi. i just got a very depressing phone message

> from

> > > diana at dr.

> > > herron's office. she said that because my h

> pylori

> > > test was

> > > positive that my surgery may need to be pushed

> back.

> > > she said

> > > it's because of treatment and then a follow up

> > > study. i've been

> > > so positive up until now (meaning in attitude,

> not h

> > > pylori

> > > positive!) and now my happiness has been dashed

> to

> > > the ground.

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Thanx ..... sure hope that is not what is wrong

with my stomach!!

CAroline

--- Montgomery marym@...> wrote:

> It's a test to determine if you have the

> Helicobacter pylori (h pylori for

> short) bacterium in your stomach. It causes ulcers.

>

> there are a number of great websites about it-- a

> good one is

> http://www.helico.com/

>

> In the past it was thought that stomach ulcers were

> caused by stress. And

> people had part of their stomach removed to cure the

> ulcers. Once it was

> discovered that h pylori caused a high percent of

> stomach (and duodenal)

> ulcers, it became possible to cure them with

> antibiotics. Revolutionized

> treatment for ulcers. I would imagine that

> operating with this bacterium

> flourishing in your stomach and GI tract would put

> you at risk for having it

> become worse. Best to eliminate it pre op.

>

> in Seattle

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

>

> > Will someone please explain this test??

> > Caroline

> >

> > > hi. i just got a very depressing phone message

> from

> > > diana at dr.

> > > herron's office. she said that because my h

> pylori

> > > test was

> > > positive that my surgery may need to be pushed

> back.

> > > she said

> > > it's because of treatment and then a follow up

> > > study. i've been

> > > so positive up until now (meaning in attitude,

> not h

> > > pylori

> > > positive!) and now my happiness has been dashed

> to

> > > the ground.

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

> Will someone please explain this test??

> Caroline

H.Pylori is the bacteria most often responsible for the formation of

stomach ulcers. I'm not sure what the specific test is, but finding

H.Pylori isn't good if you're scheduled for stomach surgery. However,

I thought H.Pylori were susceptible to several common antibiotics..

why can't they just give Dawn a 10-14 day course of one of those

antibiotics? If it was found via culture, there should also have been

a sensitivity screen to determine the most effective treatment. If

they started it NOW, she might could still make her original surgery

date (takes a few days for cultures to grow after started, so they'd

need at least 3-4 days after ABTX to check for success). Anyone have

idea about this??

Hugs,

Liane

[Guest guest]

> Will someone please explain this test??

> Caroline

H.Pylori is the bacteria most often responsible for the formation of

stomach ulcers. I'm not sure what the specific test is, but finding

H.Pylori isn't good if you're scheduled for stomach surgery. However,

I thought H.Pylori were susceptible to several common antibiotics..

why can't they just give Dawn a 10-14 day course of one of those

antibiotics? If it was found via culture, there should also have been

a sensitivity screen to determine the most effective treatment. If

they started it NOW, she might could still make her original surgery

date (takes a few days for cultures to grow after started, so they'd

need at least 3-4 days after ABTX to check for success). Anyone have

idea about this??

Hugs,

Liane

[Guest guest]

You do not need an endoscopy to test for H-pylori. A simple stool sample taken to the lab is all that is needed. My PCP ordered the endoscopy to be done because I have GERD but he said it was not necessary to take a biopsy during it because you could test with a stool sample. He ordered the test early on in my pre-op testing because if you are found to have it the standard is 6 weeks of antibiotics. My sister has H-Pylori for years and has a sensitivity to antibiotics and they have not found anything she can take for any length of time to cure her of this. She was taking propulsid for a time to quickly remove the food from her stomach and prilosec to aide removing acids. She still takes something for the acid in her stomach as a preventative to getting an ulcer (I do not remember what the name of the drug is) as her insurance refuses to pay for prilosec because it is too expensive. H-Pylori is something that you can live with but better to get rid of.

So, moral of this story. If you are pre-op, have your PCP order an H-Pylori test on a stool sample early on in your quest and you will avoid last minute cancellations.

I think Kathy Stefano had H-Pylori and had her surgery cancelled. I wonder how she is doing since her surgery? Anyone out there know?

Viau, Switched 3/29/01 www.angelfire.com/on/wannabemagic/WLS.html BCBSM PPODr Ren, NYUMC http://www.thinforlife.orgMaximum weight 325lost 9 lbs prior to surgeryPre-Surgery weight: 3164/24/01: 287 (-29 lbs)38 pounds gone forever

[Guest guest]

You do not need an endoscopy to test for H-pylori. A simple stool sample taken to the lab is all that is needed. My PCP ordered the endoscopy to be done because I have GERD but he said it was not necessary to take a biopsy during it because you could test with a stool sample. He ordered the test early on in my pre-op testing because if you are found to have it the standard is 6 weeks of antibiotics. My sister has H-Pylori for years and has a sensitivity to antibiotics and they have not found anything she can take for any length of time to cure her of this. She was taking propulsid for a time to quickly remove the food from her stomach and prilosec to aide removing acids. She still takes something for the acid in her stomach as a preventative to getting an ulcer (I do not remember what the name of the drug is) as her insurance refuses to pay for prilosec because it is too expensive. H-Pylori is something that you can live with but better to get rid of.

So, moral of this story. If you are pre-op, have your PCP order an H-Pylori test on a stool sample early on in your quest and you will avoid last minute cancellations.

I think Kathy Stefano had H-Pylori and had her surgery cancelled. I wonder how she is doing since her surgery? Anyone out there know?

Viau, Switched 3/29/01 www.angelfire.com/on/wannabemagic/WLS.html BCBSM PPODr Ren, NYUMC http://www.thinforlife.orgMaximum weight 325lost 9 lbs prior to surgeryPre-Surgery weight: 3164/24/01: 287 (-29 lbs)38 pounds gone forever

[Guest guest]

You do not need an endoscopy to test for H-pylori. A simple stool sample taken to the lab is all that is needed. My PCP ordered the endoscopy to be done because I have GERD but he said it was not necessary to take a biopsy during it because you could test with a stool sample. He ordered the test early on in my pre-op testing because if you are found to have it the standard is 6 weeks of antibiotics. My sister has H-Pylori for years and has a sensitivity to antibiotics and they have not found anything she can take for any length of time to cure her of this. She was taking propulsid for a time to quickly remove the food from her stomach and prilosec to aide removing acids. She still takes something for the acid in her stomach as a preventative to getting an ulcer (I do not remember what the name of the drug is) as her insurance refuses to pay for prilosec because it is too expensive. H-Pylori is something that you can live with but better to get rid of.

So, moral of this story. If you are pre-op, have your PCP order an H-Pylori test on a stool sample early on in your quest and you will avoid last minute cancellations.

I think Kathy Stefano had H-Pylori and had her surgery cancelled. I wonder how she is doing since her surgery? Anyone out there know?

Viau, Switched 3/29/01 www.angelfire.com/on/wannabemagic/WLS.html BCBSM PPODr Ren, NYUMC http://www.thinforlife.orgMaximum weight 325lost 9 lbs prior to surgeryPre-Surgery weight: 3164/24/01: 287 (-29 lbs)38 pounds gone forever

[Guest guest]

It's a test to determine if you have the Helicobacter pylori (h pylori for

short) bacterium in your stomach. It causes ulcers.

there are a number of great websites about it-- a good one is

http://www.helico.com/

In the past it was thought that stomach ulcers were caused by stress. And

people had part of their stomach removed to cure the ulcers. Once it was

discovered that h pylori caused a high percent of stomach (and duodenal)

ulcers, it became possible to cure them with antibiotics. Revolutionized

treatment for ulcers. I would imagine that operating with this bacterium

flourishing in your stomach and GI tract would put you at risk for having it

become worse. Best to eliminate it pre op.

in Seattle

----- Original Message -----

> Will someone please explain this test??

> Caroline

>

> > hi. i just got a very depressing phone message from

> > diana at dr.

> > herron's office. she said that because my h pylori

> > test was

> > positive that my surgery may need to be pushed back.

> > she said

> > it's because of treatment and then a follow up

> > study. i've been

> > so positive up until now (meaning in attitude, not h

> > pylori

> > positive!) and now my happiness has been dashed to

> > the ground.

[Guest guest]

It's a test to determine if you have the Helicobacter pylori (h pylori for

short) bacterium in your stomach. It causes ulcers.

there are a number of great websites about it-- a good one is

http://www.helico.com/

In the past it was thought that stomach ulcers were caused by stress. And

people had part of their stomach removed to cure the ulcers. Once it was

discovered that h pylori caused a high percent of stomach (and duodenal)

ulcers, it became possible to cure them with antibiotics. Revolutionized

treatment for ulcers. I would imagine that operating with this bacterium

flourishing in your stomach and GI tract would put you at risk for having it

become worse. Best to eliminate it pre op.

in Seattle

----- Original Message -----

> Will someone please explain this test??

> Caroline

>

> > hi. i just got a very depressing phone message from

> > diana at dr.

> > herron's office. she said that because my h pylori

> > test was

> > positive that my surgery may need to be pushed back.

> > she said

> > it's because of treatment and then a follow up

> > study. i've been

> > so positive up until now (meaning in attitude, not h

> > pylori

> > positive!) and now my happiness has been dashed to

> > the ground.

[Guest guest]

I've forgotten the name of whoever originated this post -- sorry. I had

a positive h. pylori test when I had my endoscopy. I really thought my

surgery would have to be delayed, because I had to have a 14 day round

of three antibiotics (simultaneously), wait two weeks (to be sure not to

get a false positive result, if I remember correctly), and then have

another endoscopy. My gastroenterologist said they could do a stool or

(I think) saliva test instead of the second endoscopy, but warned there

was a higher incidence of false positives with those tests, so

recommended the endoscopy as the surest way of confirming all those

little critters were dead. All in all, it took a month from the time I

found out I had the h. pylori bacteria until I had a second negative

test result and was cleared for surgery.

I'm so sorry your surgery may have to be postponed -- I remember only

too well the extreme disappointment I felt at this prospect, as well as

the anxiety over all of my loved ones who'd arranged their lives around

this event. As it turned out, I didn't have to postpone, but I didn't

get the news that surgery could proceed until just a few days before the

big day. I hope things work out well for you.

Lori B.

[Guest guest]

- I am so sorry but if you want to have a safe and healthy surgery than

this is important. I understand you taKE antibiotics for 2 weeks and then

youhave to be retested. Reschedule now if they let you or speak to Dr.

Herron about taking you as a priority.Ellen(PaM