Re: Can you heal with Candida?

September 16, 2009

My feeling, based on my experiences and the research I've done, is that you have to deal with a candida overgrowth at the same time as you work towards healing your intestinal walls. Restoring our gut ecology is critical to healing, which means dealing with a candida overgrowth, or overgrowth of other types of microorganisms.

However, being on SCD will help with a candida overgrowth, to some degree, as starches from complex carbs are eliminated. Some of us have had to fine-tune our SCD food choices in order to eliminate high levels of candida more quickly, to cut back on the allowable high-carbs and fruits for a while.

Digestive disorders and candida overgrowth go hand in hand, I'm afraid. Both aspects of a disturbed gut ecology. So we have to deal with both.

Kim M.

SCD 5+ years

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Can you have candida overgrowth and heal at the same time? Or do you have to deal with candida before any healing takes place?Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds =)

September 16, 2009

My feeling, based on my experiences and the research I've done, is that you have to deal with a candida overgrowth at the same time as you work towards healing your intestinal walls. Restoring our gut ecology is critical to healing, which means dealing with a candida overgrowth, or overgrowth of other types of microorganisms.

However, being on SCD will help with a candida overgrowth, to some degree, as starches from complex carbs are eliminated. Some of us have had to fine-tune our SCD food choices in order to eliminate high levels of candida more quickly, to cut back on the allowable high-carbs and fruits for a while.

Digestive disorders and candida overgrowth go hand in hand, I'm afraid. Both aspects of a disturbed gut ecology. So we have to deal with both.

Kim M.

SCD 5+ years

>>>>>>>>>

Can you have candida overgrowth and heal at the same time? Or do you have to deal with candida before any healing takes place?Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds =)

September 16, 2009

My feeling, based on my experiences and the research I've done, is that you have to deal with a candida overgrowth at the same time as you work towards healing your intestinal walls. Restoring our gut ecology is critical to healing, which means dealing with a candida overgrowth, or overgrowth of other types of microorganisms.

However, being on SCD will help with a candida overgrowth, to some degree, as starches from complex carbs are eliminated. Some of us have had to fine-tune our SCD food choices in order to eliminate high levels of candida more quickly, to cut back on the allowable high-carbs and fruits for a while.

Digestive disorders and candida overgrowth go hand in hand, I'm afraid. Both aspects of a disturbed gut ecology. So we have to deal with both.

Kim M.

SCD 5+ years

>>>>>>>>>

Can you have candida overgrowth and heal at the same time? Or do you have to deal with candida before any healing takes place?Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds =)

September 16, 2009

Hi Alyssa..

I'm learning more and more I need to change some of the language I use when it

comes to the term Candida. It far too much like this uber umbrella

categorization that everything gets thrown into.

Also, the SCD is a great diet for pesky Candida issues but modifications need to

be made depending on individual case by case basis and severity.

Again, this is highly individual!

Some people need to just limit certain food items for a period of time like

Banana, honey, nuts and very sweet fruits. Others have to take it further than

this.. Some need to go as far as using anti fungals and prescription drugs if

one can tolerate it.

It is safe to say most people coming into this diet have gut dysbiosis.

I have learned from Dr Natasha McBride's work and how she structured

the GAPS intro diet- is that she addresses Candida modifications from the get go

and also wants people to be dairy free the first six months.

Granted, NCM is coming more from the Neuro perspective of things- which in some

cases ASD kids have debilitating Colitis type issues. But, she advocates usage

of certain ingredients or food items from the start that for me is like a

question mark (she advocates this in general although GAPS is very supportive of

leaving ingredients out if it does not agree with the person etc) Like Elaine it

is hard as the books (even BTVC) like over generalize to reach a wide

population. But the perspective changes on a case by case basis.

According to my general perception over time.. We on SCD for severe gut issues

are very limited food wise from the get go.. any many of us have severe food

intolerances to begin with. I think- and Marilyn or anyone can correct me if I

am wrong.. is that Elaine didn't want to limit us even more than our current

debilitation and the life changing process the SCD already is. So she gave us

this guideline and was like " here.. go swim " LOL.

Many have dysbiosis but it like almost self corrects on the full SCD but others

need to address it more aggressively.

I personally think if you have a Candida issue it is best to address it from the

get go. I think it will shorten the agony really.

My general observation is that people who have pesky Candida from teh begining

use certain food items as a crutch and it feeds candida.. like honey, apple

cider, bananas, nuts etc. Lord knows I did.

HTH,

Jodi

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> Can you have candida overgrowth and heal at the same time? Or do you

> have to deal with candida before any healing takes place?

>

> Pour Dieu, pour terre,

> Alyssa 15

> UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> No meds =)

>

September 16, 2009