RE: Protein (Post Surgi cal)

[Guest guest]

Hi

I think LaWanda was more offended by the "tone" of the email than the actual anonymity. If you met a person on the street, you would not proceed to spout out all of the thing you wanted from them. You would introduce yourself, present yourself as a person, acknowledge the others as people and then proceed to your request.

The same should be true of the internet. You have to establish a repore. And the writer just spouted out demands. It isn't wrong for that to have rubbed Lawanda the wrong way.

LTLJSMOM

From: chris lopez Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 1:19 PMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: Re: Protein (Post Surgical)

You know, maybe this person is uncomfortable breaking anonymity at this time. I think all should respoect that and not withdraw advice because of it. Remember, we are all at different stages of our journey, particularly emotionally. Who are we to judge the reasons? This group has always been known for it's friendliness and support to all. Should we change now? I have to say I'm a little disappointed in the negative responses.LaWanda Ezell wrote: I will not respond positively to someone who doesn't even care to give a name. LaWanda At 06:22 AM 6/24/05, you wrote:>Acknowledging there are personal preferences, those that are post->surgery have undoubtedly come to some conclusions. I wish to draw on>that experience because I am about to undergo the surgery next month>and would appreciate insight into the "bottom line.">>1. Which protein drinks have proven to be the best?> a. Powder (e.g., at Vitalady) or pre-mixed (e.g., Bariatrix).> b. Flavors (chocolate, vanilla, strawberry, other)>>2. What other sources have proven to be of value? E.g., protein bars?>>3. Where are the best purchase sources for the protein (e.g.,>Vitalady)?>>4. What other post-surgical information can be offered re protein?>>Thanks.>>>>>>>

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I wasn't just talking about LaWanda. There were several other very negative responses. Again, with holding information on this list just because someone doesn't follow we someone perceives as the correct internet rules of etiquette is wrong. Did it ever occur to anyone that not everyone's social skills are equal, especially for those who have weight issues. I still stand by my response--I'm disappointed in the negative responses.bhokoana@... wrote:

Hi

I think LaWanda was more offended by the "tone" of the email than the actual anonymity. If you met a person on the street, you would not proceed to spout out all of the thing you wanted from them. You would introduce yourself, present yourself as a person, acknowledge the others as people and then proceed to your request.

The same should be true of the internet. You have to establish a repore. And the writer just spouted out demands. It isn't wrong for that to have rubbed Lawanda the wrong way.

LTLJSMOM

From: chris lopez Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 1:19 PMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: Re: Protein (Post Surgical)

You know, maybe this person is uncomfortable breaking anonymity at this time. I think all should respoect that and not withdraw advice because of it. Remember, we are all at different stages of our journey, particularly emotionally. Who are we to judge the reasons? This group has always been known for it's friendliness and support to all. Should we change now? I have to say I'm a little disappointed in the negative responses.LaWanda Ezell wrote: I will not respond positively to someone who doesn't even care to give a name. LaWanda At 06:22 AM 6/24/05, you wrote:>Acknowledging there are personal preferences, those that are post->surgery have undoubtedly come to some conclusions. I wish to draw on>that experience because I am about to undergo the surgery next month>and would appreciate insight into the "bottom line.">>1. Which protein drinks have proven to be the best?> a. Powder (e.g., at Vitalady) or pre-mixed (e.g., Bariatrix).> b. Flavors (chocolate, vanilla, strawberry, other)>>2. What other sources have proven to be of value? E.g., protein bars?>>3. Where are the best purchase sources

for the protein (e.g.,>Vitalady)?>>4. What other post-surgical information can be offered re protein?>>Thanks.>>>>>>>

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I agree!

Stacey

Re: Protein (Post

Surgical)

I don't think it really matters what this person's

name is the fact of the matter remains that he or she

needs help. We all need to dig deep and go back...and

for some it will be way back and remember how we felt

during our process and all the questions we got

answered, needed answered, etc.

Not posting a name is the same as not telling someone

about your surgery. Its a choice...it is neither a

right or wrong one...just a choice and we

all...specifically the POST OP people need to be aware

and be sensitive as we can towards our pre ops but

more importantly be sensitive to one another

collectively whether post op or pre op. Lets not get

so lax that we forget were we just came from.

Now, for the person that had the question about the

protein, Vitalady.com is an execellent place to start

because of the samples that you can get for roughly

$1.99/$2.00. As stated before your taste buds will

change. Some...but few have said that their buds did

not. Start there.

I hope that help.

Pam Marsh

--- Robynn VanPatten robynnsf@...> wrote:

> I agree, Chris. I feel the same way. Lots of

> people prefer not to give their names, and that

> should be their choice.

>

> chris lopez clopez57@...> wrote:You know,

> maybe this person is uncomfortable breaking

> anonymity at this time. I think all should respoect

> that and not withdraw advice because of it.

> Remember, we are all at different stages of our

> journey, particularly emotionally. Who are we to

> judge the reasons? This group has always been known

> for it's friendliness and support to all. Should we

> change now? I have to say I'm a little disappointed

> in the negative responses.

>

> LaWanda Ezell konfuzed@...> wrote: I will

> not respond positively to someone who doesn't even

> care to give a

> name. LaWanda At 06:22 AM 6/24/05, you wrote:

> >Acknowledging there are personal preferences, those

> that are post-

> >surgery have undoubtedly come to some conclusions.

> I wish to draw on

> >that experience because I am about to undergo the

> surgery next month

> >and would appreciate insight into the " bottom

> line. "

> >

> >1. Which protein drinks have proven to be the

> best?

> > a. Powder (e.g., at Vitalady) or

> pre-mixed (e.g., Bariatrix).

> > b. Flavors (chocolate, vanilla,

> strawberry, other)

> >

> >2. What other sources have proven to be of value?

> E.g., protein bars?

> >

> >3. Where are the best purchase sources for the

> protein (e.g.,

> >Vitalady)?

> >

> >4. What other post-surgical information can be

> offered re protein?

> >

> >Thanks.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I agree!

Stacey

Re: Protein (Post

Surgical)

I don't think it really matters what this person's

name is the fact of the matter remains that he or she

needs help. We all need to dig deep and go back...and

for some it will be way back and remember how we felt

during our process and all the questions we got

answered, needed answered, etc.

Not posting a name is the same as not telling someone

about your surgery. Its a choice...it is neither a

right or wrong one...just a choice and we

all...specifically the POST OP people need to be aware

and be sensitive as we can towards our pre ops but

more importantly be sensitive to one another

collectively whether post op or pre op. Lets not get

so lax that we forget were we just came from.

Now, for the person that had the question about the

protein, Vitalady.com is an execellent place to start

because of the samples that you can get for roughly

$1.99/$2.00. As stated before your taste buds will

change. Some...but few have said that their buds did

not. Start there.

I hope that help.

Pam Marsh

--- Robynn VanPatten robynnsf@...> wrote:

> I agree, Chris. I feel the same way. Lots of

> people prefer not to give their names, and that

> should be their choice.

>

> chris lopez clopez57@...> wrote:You know,

> maybe this person is uncomfortable breaking

> anonymity at this time. I think all should respoect

> that and not withdraw advice because of it.

> Remember, we are all at different stages of our

> journey, particularly emotionally. Who are we to

> judge the reasons? This group has always been known

> for it's friendliness and support to all. Should we

> change now? I have to say I'm a little disappointed

> in the negative responses.

>

> LaWanda Ezell konfuzed@...> wrote: I will

> not respond positively to someone who doesn't even

> care to give a

> name. LaWanda At 06:22 AM 6/24/05, you wrote:

> >Acknowledging there are personal preferences, those

> that are post-

> >surgery have undoubtedly come to some conclusions.

> I wish to draw on

> >that experience because I am about to undergo the

> surgery next month

> >and would appreciate insight into the " bottom

> line. "

> >

> >1. Which protein drinks have proven to be the

> best?

> > a. Powder (e.g., at Vitalady) or

> pre-mixed (e.g., Bariatrix).

> > b. Flavors (chocolate, vanilla,

> strawberry, other)

> >

> >2. What other sources have proven to be of value?

> E.g., protein bars?

> >

> >3. Where are the best purchase sources for the

> protein (e.g.,

> >Vitalady)?

> >

> >4. What other post-surgical information can be

> offered re protein?

> >

> >Thanks.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

That's exactly it, thank you. LaWanda At 01:24 PM 6/27/05, you wrote:

>Hi

>

>I think LaWanda was more offended by the " tone " of the email than the

>actual anonymity. If you met a person on the street, you would not proceed

>to spout out all of the thing you wanted from them. You would introduce

>yourself, present yourself as a person, acknowledge the others as people

>and then proceed to your request.

>

>The same should be true of the internet. You have to establish a repore.

>And the writer just spouted out demands. It isn't wrong for that to have

>rubbed Lawanda the wrong way.

>

>LTLJSMOM

>

>

>

>

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>From: chris lopez

>Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 1:19 PM

>To: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients

>Subject: Re: Protein (Post Surgical)

>

>You know, maybe this person is uncomfortable breaking anonymity at this

>time. I think all should respoect that and not withdraw advice because of

>it. Remember, we are all at different stages of our journey, particularly

>emotionally. Who are we to judge the reasons? This group has always been

>known for it's friendliness and support to all. Should we change now? I

>have to say I'm a little disappointed in the negative responses.

>

>LaWanda Ezell konfuzed@...> wrote:

>I will not respond positively to someone who doesn't even care to give a

>name. LaWanda At 06:22 AM 6/24/05, you wrote:

> >Acknowledging there are personal preferences, those that are post-

> >surgery have undoubtedly come to some conclusions. I wish to draw on

> >that experience because I am about to undergo the surgery next month

> >and would appreciate insight into the " bottom line. "

> >

> >1. Which protein drinks have proven to be the best?

> > a. Powder (e.g., at Vitalady) or pre-mixed (e.g., Bariatrix).

> > b. Flavors (chocolate, vanilla, strawberry, other)

> >

> >2. What other sources have proven to be of value? E.g., protein bars?

> >

> >3. Where are the best purchase sources for the protein (e.g.,

> >Vitalady)?

> >

> >4. What other post-surgical information can be offered re protein?

> >

> >Thanks.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >