Re: Coconut cream now legal commercial products

[Guest guest]

Marilyn,

Where is that letter. please? I went to 'Files" on the list and I did not see a letter in your file. I want to obtain some more letters-----does it just have to affirm that there are no sugars or starches or hidden ingredients during the manufacturing process?

Thanks,

Terry

Re: Re: Coconut cream

At 06:24 AM 9/19/2009, you wrote:

That in now way means SCD has to endorse it but the original approved list needs updating!True, but so far, I've only received a copy of one, count 'em, ONE physical letter for all these items that people use. Having been told by a major spice manufacturing firm that they would not give me a letter on several of their products, I no longer buy those products.Having seen the effects of minor infractions, particularly in the first year of SCD, I feel I must continue the "make your own" chant, unless I have those physical letters.

- Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Marilyn,

Where is that letter. please? I went to 'Files" on the list and I did not see a letter in your file. I want to obtain some more letters-----does it just have to affirm that there are no sugars or starches or hidden ingredients during the manufacturing process?

Thanks,

Terry

Re: Re: Coconut cream

At 06:24 AM 9/19/2009, you wrote:

That in now way means SCD has to endorse it but the original approved list needs updating!True, but so far, I've only received a copy of one, count 'em, ONE physical letter for all these items that people use. Having been told by a major spice manufacturing firm that they would not give me a letter on several of their products, I no longer buy those products.Having seen the effects of minor infractions, particularly in the first year of SCD, I feel I must continue the "make your own" chant, unless I have those physical letters.

- Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Marilyn,

Where is that letter. please? I went to 'Files" on the list and I did not see a letter in your file. I want to obtain some more letters-----does it just have to affirm that there are no sugars or starches or hidden ingredients during the manufacturing process?

Thanks,

Terry

Re: Re: Coconut cream

At 06:24 AM 9/19/2009, you wrote:

That in now way means SCD has to endorse it but the original approved list needs updating!True, but so far, I've only received a copy of one, count 'em, ONE physical letter for all these items that people use. Having been told by a major spice manufacturing firm that they would not give me a letter on several of their products, I no longer buy those products.Having seen the effects of minor infractions, particularly in the first year of SCD, I feel I must continue the "make your own" chant, unless I have those physical letters.

- Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

I would need to know approx how many people on the list and pecanbread so I can use this as a tool to let them know the letter will be affecting a substantial market----anyone know that number offhand, please?I looked on Yahoo and it says that BTVC-SCD has 997 members. Whew! That's a lot. Not sure how to check for pecanbread though. Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO illegal

[Guest guest]

I would need to know approx how many people on the list and pecanbread so I can use this as a tool to let them know the letter will be affecting a substantial market----anyone know that number offhand, please?I looked on Yahoo and it says that BTVC-SCD has 997 members. Whew! That's a lot. Not sure how to check for pecanbread though. Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO illegal

[Guest guest]

I would need to know approx how many people on the list and pecanbread so I can use this as a tool to let them know the letter will be affecting a substantial market----anyone know that number offhand, please?I looked on Yahoo and it says that BTVC-SCD has 997 members. Whew! That's a lot. Not sure how to check for pecanbread though. Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO illegal

[Guest guest]

I looked on Yahoo and it says that BTVC-SCD has 997 members. Whew! That's a lot. Not sure how to check for pecanbread though.Nevermind! I just found it and pecanbread has 4308 members. So altogether that's over 5,000 people! Not sure if that's sizeable from a business perspective, but from MY perspective, I'd be happy getting that many extra people buying MY tomatoes =) Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO illegal

[Guest guest]

Wow, thanks, Alyssa! I agree- 5000 people PLUS their families is very sizeable. I just left a message on their Human relations machine, and I'll call back on Monday during their regular hours. I only said 2000. Now I can up it to 5000. I think it is good to let these companies know how many people their food product will affect in a positive way.

Terry

Re: Re: Coconut cream now legal commercial products

I looked on Yahoo and it says that BTVC-SCD has 997 members. Whew! That's a lot. Not sure how to check for pecanbread though.

Nevermind! I just found it and pecanbread has 4308 members. So altogether that's over 5,000 people! Not sure if that's sizeable from a business perspective, but from MY perspective, I'd be happy getting that many extra people buying MY tomatoes =)

Pour Dieu, pour terre,

Alyssa 15

UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008

SCD June 2009 (restarted)

No meds except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO illegal

[Guest guest]

This only includes Yahoo groups. What about Google?

Lucy from the Kitchen shop doesn't hang online yet she deals with newbies all

the time.

Dr Hoffman deals with many SCD'ers that never go online.

There are many people doing this diet without being a member of online groups.

Just a thought.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Hi Marilyn,

> I'm not about to deny that there need to be

> updates. The problem is -- we have no " rabbinical

> board " to determine what is " kosher " for us SCDers.

I think we could start at updating Elaine's list and taking out the info that is

dated!

I really like Terry's suggestion.

About one or two years symptom free or whatever.

We all just need to work on some of these key products.

> You saw what transpired when I suggested that

> cocoa butter might be legal because it was a fat,

> and did not contain the proteins and

> carbohydrates which both Dr. Haas and Elaine were rightly concerned about.

Not to bring this up again.. but from what I am understanding Dr Haas did not

have an issue with unadulterated cacoa.

> And some people went through the roof screaming

> that I was recommending illegals. One individual

> went so far as to write Elaine's daughter, Lucy

> of the Kitchen Shop, and Esther of Digestive

> Wellness, and then bombard me and the list with

> how " cocoa butter " was the same as " cocoa, " was

> the same as " chocolate. " It isn't.

That's just ridiculous. You're a pillar in this community..

So sorry you had to go through such non sense.

> The problem is, I'm always up front about

> mistakes I've made along the path, like trying to

> wash regular cottage cheese as a sub for dry

> curd, which wasn't available. Those mistakes

> slowed my healing, and I would hate like the

> devil to see someone not get the healing they

> deserve because they are trying to save a little time.

This is already happening with the current list for *some* depending on the

exact labels they are purchasing!

> And I would love to be able to buy cheese crisps

> and crackers and so forth.... the question is:

> how do we insure the safety of these products for

> ourselves and those who will come after us, and

> make sure we don't adulterate the SCD?

Besides Terry's suggestion..

Things need to be periodically checked and rechecked. We should totally be on

alert if companies are purchased.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Hi Marilyn,

> I'm not about to deny that there need to be

> updates. The problem is -- we have no " rabbinical

> board " to determine what is " kosher " for us SCDers.

I think we could start at updating Elaine's list and taking out the info that is

dated!

I really like Terry's suggestion.

About one or two years symptom free or whatever.

We all just need to work on some of these key products.

> You saw what transpired when I suggested that

> cocoa butter might be legal because it was a fat,

> and did not contain the proteins and

> carbohydrates which both Dr. Haas and Elaine were rightly concerned about.

Not to bring this up again.. but from what I am understanding Dr Haas did not

have an issue with unadulterated cacoa.

> And some people went through the roof screaming

> that I was recommending illegals. One individual

> went so far as to write Elaine's daughter, Lucy

> of the Kitchen Shop, and Esther of Digestive

> Wellness, and then bombard me and the list with

> how " cocoa butter " was the same as " cocoa, " was

> the same as " chocolate. " It isn't.

That's just ridiculous. You're a pillar in this community..

So sorry you had to go through such non sense.

> The problem is, I'm always up front about

> mistakes I've made along the path, like trying to

> wash regular cottage cheese as a sub for dry

> curd, which wasn't available. Those mistakes

> slowed my healing, and I would hate like the

> devil to see someone not get the healing they

> deserve because they are trying to save a little time.

This is already happening with the current list for *some* depending on the

exact labels they are purchasing!

> And I would love to be able to buy cheese crisps

> and crackers and so forth.... the question is:

> how do we insure the safety of these products for

> ourselves and those who will come after us, and

> make sure we don't adulterate the SCD?

Besides Terry's suggestion..

Things need to be periodically checked and rechecked. We should totally be on

alert if companies are purchased.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Hi Marilyn,

> I'm not about to deny that there need to be

> updates. The problem is -- we have no " rabbinical

> board " to determine what is " kosher " for us SCDers.

I think we could start at updating Elaine's list and taking out the info that is

dated!

I really like Terry's suggestion.

About one or two years symptom free or whatever.

We all just need to work on some of these key products.

> You saw what transpired when I suggested that

> cocoa butter might be legal because it was a fat,

> and did not contain the proteins and

> carbohydrates which both Dr. Haas and Elaine were rightly concerned about.

Not to bring this up again.. but from what I am understanding Dr Haas did not

have an issue with unadulterated cacoa.

> And some people went through the roof screaming

> that I was recommending illegals. One individual

> went so far as to write Elaine's daughter, Lucy

> of the Kitchen Shop, and Esther of Digestive

> Wellness, and then bombard me and the list with

> how " cocoa butter " was the same as " cocoa, " was

> the same as " chocolate. " It isn't.

That's just ridiculous. You're a pillar in this community..

So sorry you had to go through such non sense.

> The problem is, I'm always up front about

> mistakes I've made along the path, like trying to

> wash regular cottage cheese as a sub for dry

> curd, which wasn't available. Those mistakes

> slowed my healing, and I would hate like the

> devil to see someone not get the healing they

> deserve because they are trying to save a little time.

This is already happening with the current list for *some* depending on the

exact labels they are purchasing!

> And I would love to be able to buy cheese crisps

> and crackers and so forth.... the question is:

> how do we insure the safety of these products for

> ourselves and those who will come after us, and

> make sure we don't adulterate the SCD?

Besides Terry's suggestion..

Things need to be periodically checked and rechecked. We should totally be on

alert if companies are purchased.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Hi Terry,

There's no such letter in my file because I wrote it when I was brand

brand new to the group and didn't know I should put it

there! Sorry. At this point I doubt I have what I wrote

anyhow. But I will be good next time. Promise. It was to Seneca to

ask about their " 100% applesauce " . As I say, never heard a word anyhow.

So what IS the drill? I thought we just shared letters when we heard

back from these people. Wrong??

[Guest guest]

Misty,

I have their number and I will be calling them on Monday. I think it will be a process, so it may take some time. I will of course, share everything with the group.

Terry

Re: Coconut cream now legal commercial products

Terry,I would like to know. A local place sells that product.ThanksMisty>> I have to agree with Jodi--> > The reality of the situation is that there are a lot of us who do dabble in convenience foods because, well, they're convenient. However, I did not experiment with these at all until my symptoms were under control and I was stable. I introduced it one at a time like any other food and waited to see if any repercussions.> > But apropos of this--I am going to try to call Cento and get a letter from them as well for tomato products--they are less expensive than Muir Glen, packed in Italy and ingredients are fresh tomatoes, no citric acid or salt. I would need to know approx how many people on the list and pecanbread so I can use this as a tool to let them know the letter will be affecting a substantial market----anyone know that number offhand, please?> > > Terry

[Guest guest]

Misty,

I have their number and I will be calling them on Monday. I think it will be a process, so it may take some time. I will of course, share everything with the group.

Terry

Re: Coconut cream now legal commercial products

Terry,I would like to know. A local place sells that product.ThanksMisty>> I have to agree with Jodi--> > The reality of the situation is that there are a lot of us who do dabble in convenience foods because, well, they're convenient. However, I did not experiment with these at all until my symptoms were under control and I was stable. I introduced it one at a time like any other food and waited to see if any repercussions.> > But apropos of this--I am going to try to call Cento and get a letter from them as well for tomato products--they are less expensive than Muir Glen, packed in Italy and ingredients are fresh tomatoes, no citric acid or salt. I would need to know approx how many people on the list and pecanbread so I can use this as a tool to let them know the letter will be affecting a substantial market----anyone know that number offhand, please?> > > Terry