Re: Overeating before surgery

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Pam:

You ask for my "wisdom." I just wish I had it. I know all the reasons to lose weight and I knew them months before my surgery. I lost 20 pounds and gained it back so had the surgery at exactly the same weight I had weighed at my initial consult. I began my message about abdominal compartment syndrome with "do as I say, not as I did." So I'm a bit short on wisdom right now. If it helps, and I doubt if it will, I certainly understand your inability to lose - indeed gain - when under pressure. Perhaps it will help to go ahead and consider this a diet. The last diet you'll ever have to put up with. And you won't have to keep the weight off, just get down there by the time of the surgery. I know, far easier said than done.

I know you say that it isn't a "last meal" syndrome but in case that thought rears its ugly head understand that one of the real benefits of this surgery is that you can eat anything. Literally. Just not so much of it. So if it is humanly possible, just gut it up and do it! The alternative is really horrible. Most won't have the problem with acute abdominal compartment syndrome but those who do have their life threatened.

Regards.

Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 246http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

Overeating before surgery

Hi Everybody, I've been reading some of your posts about overeating and gaining weight prior to surgery, etc. I just had to write, because I am in the "self-loathing" mode at the moment. I, too, have been eating everything that is NOT nailed down, and have gained 12 pounds. And while I know that this is totally CRAZY, unhealthy, and just plain ridiculous, I am finding that I can't help myself. It's not even (at least not on a conscious level) a matter of me having my "last hurrahs," because logically, I know that that doesn't make sense. Then again, I'm trying to remember how much of my life has actually been logical......... I guess I'm looking to this group to help me understand what is actually going on here. One thing I DO know is that, for my ENTIRE life, whenever I felt that I had "time" to lose weight to get ready for something (for example-- a wedding coming up in the spring, or a class reunion, or a graduation, etc, etc.) I found that not only did I NOT lose weight, I actually gained weight, and then ended up making some excuse not to go to the event or function because I was ashamed of myself. This is SUCH a vicious, unhealthy cycle, and I just want OUT of it!! You know, I TOTALLY dread the summertime, because I hate the heat, and I refuse to wear shorts!! So, I suffer because of my own shame and stubborness. My children want to be outside playing every single night, and I LONG to be out there with them, but I just can't do what I need and want to do with them at this weight. Now you would think that these reasons ALONE would help me to get out of this "HEE-HAW-LET'S-CHOW-DOWN" mode, but it's not. I'm looking to you guys, as always, for insight. Joe, I read your response to the one post about "abdominal compartment syndrome," and you would think that that would SCARE some sense in to me. Joe, may I ask you once again to please give me the benefit of your wisdom? All replies, of course, are welcome!!! Thanks!! Hugs, Pam Pre-op in MD Dr. Vanguri Surgery date July 9, 2001 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Pam:

You ask for my "wisdom." I just wish I had it. I know all the reasons to lose weight and I knew them months before my surgery. I lost 20 pounds and gained it back so had the surgery at exactly the same weight I had weighed at my initial consult. I began my message about abdominal compartment syndrome with "do as I say, not as I did." So I'm a bit short on wisdom right now. If it helps, and I doubt if it will, I certainly understand your inability to lose - indeed gain - when under pressure. Perhaps it will help to go ahead and consider this a diet. The last diet you'll ever have to put up with. And you won't have to keep the weight off, just get down there by the time of the surgery. I know, far easier said than done.

I know you say that it isn't a "last meal" syndrome but in case that thought rears its ugly head understand that one of the real benefits of this surgery is that you can eat anything. Literally. Just not so much of it. So if it is humanly possible, just gut it up and do it! The alternative is really horrible. Most won't have the problem with acute abdominal compartment syndrome but those who do have their life threatened.

Regards.

Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 246http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

Overeating before surgery

Hi Everybody, I've been reading some of your posts about overeating and gaining weight prior to surgery, etc. I just had to write, because I am in the "self-loathing" mode at the moment. I, too, have been eating everything that is NOT nailed down, and have gained 12 pounds. And while I know that this is totally CRAZY, unhealthy, and just plain ridiculous, I am finding that I can't help myself. It's not even (at least not on a conscious level) a matter of me having my "last hurrahs," because logically, I know that that doesn't make sense. Then again, I'm trying to remember how much of my life has actually been logical......... I guess I'm looking to this group to help me understand what is actually going on here. One thing I DO know is that, for my ENTIRE life, whenever I felt that I had "time" to lose weight to get ready for something (for example-- a wedding coming up in the spring, or a class reunion, or a graduation, etc, etc.) I found that not only did I NOT lose weight, I actually gained weight, and then ended up making some excuse not to go to the event or function because I was ashamed of myself. This is SUCH a vicious, unhealthy cycle, and I just want OUT of it!! You know, I TOTALLY dread the summertime, because I hate the heat, and I refuse to wear shorts!! So, I suffer because of my own shame and stubborness. My children want to be outside playing every single night, and I LONG to be out there with them, but I just can't do what I need and want to do with them at this weight. Now you would think that these reasons ALONE would help me to get out of this "HEE-HAW-LET'S-CHOW-DOWN" mode, but it's not. I'm looking to you guys, as always, for insight. Joe, I read your response to the one post about "abdominal compartment syndrome," and you would think that that would SCARE some sense in to me. Joe, may I ask you once again to please give me the benefit of your wisdom? All replies, of course, are welcome!!! Thanks!! Hugs, Pam Pre-op in MD Dr. Vanguri Surgery date July 9, 2001 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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At 17:28 -0400 5/2/01, pamjams2@... wrote:

>You know, I TOTALLY dread the summertime, because I hate the heat, and I

>refuse to wear shorts!! So, I suffer because of my own shame and

>stubborness.

Pam, I KNOW... I too hate the hot weather and for the longest time

refused to wear shorts because I didn't want to show off my fat

milkbottle white legs and thighs to anyone.

But a couple of years ago during one of the hottest summers

Charlotte, NC ever experienced I finally had enough. I just couldn't

stand it anymore, and decided if my legs offended someone, it was

their fault for looking. I bought some stretchy denim shorts from

Wal-Mart (size 22/24 then; 26/28 now) and have worn shorts when and

where I felt the need ever since. I'm still fat, but I'm a bit more

comfortable!

--stella

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At 17:28 -0400 5/2/01, pamjams2@... wrote:

>You know, I TOTALLY dread the summertime, because I hate the heat, and I

>refuse to wear shorts!! So, I suffer because of my own shame and

>stubborness.

Pam, I KNOW... I too hate the hot weather and for the longest time

refused to wear shorts because I didn't want to show off my fat

milkbottle white legs and thighs to anyone.

But a couple of years ago during one of the hottest summers

Charlotte, NC ever experienced I finally had enough. I just couldn't

stand it anymore, and decided if my legs offended someone, it was

their fault for looking. I bought some stretchy denim shorts from

Wal-Mart (size 22/24 then; 26/28 now) and have worn shorts when and

where I felt the need ever since. I'm still fat, but I'm a bit more

comfortable!

--stella

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I have had stress eating and last supper syndrome before my surgery.

I did eat whatever I wanted FOR MEALS and if I wanted a snack, I ate a

snack not a meal. I always made sure I was hungry before eating.

This may help you or not, but I did not gain or lose weight. I did

however plan to have favorite foods as meals. My poor mother I hit

her up so often, she was so busy cooking me my favorite meals before

surgery, the nice thing is I would go to her house and eat, then come

home with no leftovers so I was not constantly picking. I still ate

everything I wanted and as much as I wanted, and I went overboard a

few times. All and all I did ok. You will eat again after surgery,

you will be able to eat foods you want, I do have a sweet

occasionally, just a bite or two. I don't miss it.

On the shorts thing. I never wear shorts; my thighs are so big and

jiggle that they rub together and the shorts do that climb up the

inside of my thigh thing. So I walk around all day with all the

material gathered up by my crotch, or else I am forever pulling or

tugging the material down. I am praying that when I lose my weight I

will not have that fat thigh thing or else I will have a " inner thigh

tuck " I don't know if there is such a thing but I am sure there is a

surgeon that will do it.

Teri.

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Teri, I had to laugh when I read this. I have that inner thigh material gathered up in my crotch, too. It drives me crazy! I'm always tugging and pulling because I can't stand to just let it ride up!! I hope mine goes away, too. Let me know if you find that special surgeon should we need one! LOL!

Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html

Re: Overeating before surgery

I have had stress eating and last supper syndrome before my surgery. I did eat whatever I wanted FOR MEALS and if I wanted a snack, I ate a snack not a meal. I always made sure I was hungry before eating. This may help you or not, but I did not gain or lose weight. I did however plan to have favorite foods as meals. My poor mother I hit her up so often, she was so busy cooking me my favorite meals before surgery, the nice thing is I would go to her house and eat, then come home with no leftovers so I was not constantly picking. I still ate everything I wanted and as much as I wanted, and I went overboard a few times. All and all I did ok. You will eat again after surgery, you will be able to eat foods you want, I do have a sweet occasionally, just a bite or two. I don't miss it.On the shorts thing. I never wear shorts; my thighs are so big and jiggle that they rub together and the shorts do that climb up the inside of my thigh thing. So I walk around all day with all the material gathered up by my crotch, or else I am forever pulling or tugging the material down. I am praying that when I lose my weight I will not have that fat thigh thing or else I will have a "inner thigh tuck" I don't know if there is such a thing but I am sure there is a surgeon that will do it.Teri.----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Teri, I had to laugh when I read this. I have that inner thigh material gathered up in my crotch, too. It drives me crazy! I'm always tugging and pulling because I can't stand to just let it ride up!! I hope mine goes away, too. Let me know if you find that special surgeon should we need one! LOL!

Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html

Re: Overeating before surgery

I have had stress eating and last supper syndrome before my surgery. I did eat whatever I wanted FOR MEALS and if I wanted a snack, I ate a snack not a meal. I always made sure I was hungry before eating. This may help you or not, but I did not gain or lose weight. I did however plan to have favorite foods as meals. My poor mother I hit her up so often, she was so busy cooking me my favorite meals before surgery, the nice thing is I would go to her house and eat, then come home with no leftovers so I was not constantly picking. I still ate everything I wanted and as much as I wanted, and I went overboard a few times. All and all I did ok. You will eat again after surgery, you will be able to eat foods you want, I do have a sweet occasionally, just a bite or two. I don't miss it.On the shorts thing. I never wear shorts; my thighs are so big and jiggle that they rub together and the shorts do that climb up the inside of my thigh thing. So I walk around all day with all the material gathered up by my crotch, or else I am forever pulling or tugging the material down. I am praying that when I lose my weight I will not have that fat thigh thing or else I will have a "inner thigh tuck" I don't know if there is such a thing but I am sure there is a surgeon that will do it.Teri.----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Hi Pam -

My surgery is scheduled for June 19. I, too, find myself eating a lot more now. I'm calling it my "grand farewell tour" of food and wine. I will culminate next weekend with a full day of wine tasting in Napa Valley and a blow-out brunch on Mother's Day. Then I have to try to behave. I'm looking at this as a stage in a sort of grieving process. Food was/is a major part of my life. Growing up, eating was a time of comfort and safety. As an adult, I became a chef. Although I no longer cook professionally, I am still world-class and love to spend many hours preparing fabulous feasts for my friends and family. For me, it's therapy - the way many people paint or garden. Once I have this surgery, my relationship with food is going to change. So will my relationship with cooking. So I'm having this farewell because I'm giving up wine for a year, at least; the kinds of food I can eat will change, at least for the short haul. My sense of smell and taste will change, at least for the short haul. I've set myself a finite "good-bye" period. It ends with dinner on Mother's Day. Then I'm going on a weight watcher's program until my surgery. I may not lose any weight, but I won't gain anymore.

Anyway, that's how I'm looking at it.

Best regards,

Jacqui

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Jaqui,

Oh my god! I too am a chef! I have been battling this in my head...How can a chef have this surgery! What would people think..FOOD is part of my life in O so many ways! My mother was a chef to and when you grow up hearing...Never trust a skinny cook,,, LOL Boy, all I can say is, There is nothing more tha I want right now than to have this surgery, yes I am concerened about am I going to be able to enjoy a glass of wine or how it is going to affecet my taste buds...When you have developed a reputation for being so good at what you do.. It is almost a "Catch 22" I have wanted soo much in my life to be thinner, Yet I love food! I have my initial consult with my DR. on May 14th...and I am so ready for this.

28 Yrs old

Initial meeting May 14th

*But attending support meetings

Re: Overeating before surgery

Hi Pam - My surgery is scheduled for June 19. I, too, find myself eating a lot more now. I'm calling it my "grand farewell tour" of food and wine. I will culminate next weekend with a full day of wine tasting in Napa Valley and a blow-out brunch on Mother's Day. Then I have to try to behave. I'm looking at this as a stage in a sort of grieving process. Food was/is a major part of my life. Growing up, eating was a time of comfort and safety. As an adult, I became a chef. Although I no longer cook professionally, I am still world-class and love to spend many hours preparing fabulous feasts for my friends and family. For me, it's therapy - the way many people paint or garden. Once I have this surgery, my relationship with food is going to change. So will my relationship with cooking. So I'm having this farewell because I'm giving up wine for a year, at least; the kinds of food I can eat will change, at least for the short haul. My sense of smell and taste will change, at least for the short haul. I've set myself a finite "good-bye" period. It ends with dinner on Mother's Day. Then I'm going on a weight watcher's program until my surgery. I may not lose any weight, but I won't gain anymore. Anyway, that's how I'm looking at it. Best regards, Jacqui ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Jaqui,

Oh my god! I too am a chef! I have been battling this in my head...How can a chef have this surgery! What would people think..FOOD is part of my life in O so many ways! My mother was a chef to and when you grow up hearing...Never trust a skinny cook,,, LOL Boy, all I can say is, There is nothing more tha I want right now than to have this surgery, yes I am concerened about am I going to be able to enjoy a glass of wine or how it is going to affecet my taste buds...When you have developed a reputation for being so good at what you do.. It is almost a "Catch 22" I have wanted soo much in my life to be thinner, Yet I love food! I have my initial consult with my DR. on May 14th...and I am so ready for this.

28 Yrs old

Initial meeting May 14th

*But attending support meetings

Re: Overeating before surgery

Hi Pam - My surgery is scheduled for June 19. I, too, find myself eating a lot more now. I'm calling it my "grand farewell tour" of food and wine. I will culminate next weekend with a full day of wine tasting in Napa Valley and a blow-out brunch on Mother's Day. Then I have to try to behave. I'm looking at this as a stage in a sort of grieving process. Food was/is a major part of my life. Growing up, eating was a time of comfort and safety. As an adult, I became a chef. Although I no longer cook professionally, I am still world-class and love to spend many hours preparing fabulous feasts for my friends and family. For me, it's therapy - the way many people paint or garden. Once I have this surgery, my relationship with food is going to change. So will my relationship with cooking. So I'm having this farewell because I'm giving up wine for a year, at least; the kinds of food I can eat will change, at least for the short haul. My sense of smell and taste will change, at least for the short haul. I've set myself a finite "good-bye" period. It ends with dinner on Mother's Day. Then I'm going on a weight watcher's program until my surgery. I may not lose any weight, but I won't gain anymore. Anyway, that's how I'm looking at it. Best regards, Jacqui ----------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Jaqui,

Oh my god! I too am a chef! I have been battling this in my head...How can a chef have this surgery! What would people think..FOOD is part of my life in O so many ways! My mother was a chef to and when you grow up hearing...Never trust a skinny cook,,, LOL Boy, all I can say is, There is nothing more tha I want right now than to have this surgery, yes I am concerened about am I going to be able to enjoy a glass of wine or how it is going to affecet my taste buds...When you have developed a reputation for being so good at what you do.. It is almost a "Catch 22" I have wanted soo much in my life to be thinner, Yet I love food! I have my initial consult with my DR. on May 14th...and I am so ready for this.

28 Yrs old

Initial meeting May 14th

*But attending support meetings

Re: Overeating before surgery

Hi Pam - My surgery is scheduled for June 19. I, too, find myself eating a lot more now. I'm calling it my "grand farewell tour" of food and wine. I will culminate next weekend with a full day of wine tasting in Napa Valley and a blow-out brunch on Mother's Day. Then I have to try to behave. I'm looking at this as a stage in a sort of grieving process. Food was/is a major part of my life. Growing up, eating was a time of comfort and safety. As an adult, I became a chef. Although I no longer cook professionally, I am still world-class and love to spend many hours preparing fabulous feasts for my friends and family. For me, it's therapy - the way many people paint or garden. Once I have this surgery, my relationship with food is going to change. So will my relationship with cooking. So I'm having this farewell because I'm giving up wine for a year, at least; the kinds of food I can eat will change, at least for the short haul. My sense of smell and taste will change, at least for the short haul. I've set myself a finite "good-bye" period. It ends with dinner on Mother's Day. Then I'm going on a weight watcher's program until my surgery. I may not lose any weight, but I won't gain anymore. Anyway, that's how I'm looking at it. Best regards, Jacqui ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Jacqui:

When I had my surgery my tastes certainly did change short term. When I got out of the hospital I physically couldn't eat lots of the stuff I had loved. But as time has gone by those things I lamented losing have slowly come back. I have to say that now there is NOTHING that I can't eat - but of course in moderation I never imagined before the surgery. The one exception to that is the wine. I loved wine though I only had a glass every couple of months before surgery. My surgeon said that while I was losing weight he wanted me to abstain totally. I had enough pressure on my liver by the surgery. The weight loss would put more on. I didn't need to further assault it by drinking. When I've finished there'll be plenty of time for moderate drinking.

Regards.

Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 244http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

Re: Overeating before surgery

Hi Pam - My surgery is scheduled for June 19. I, too, find myself eating a lot more now. I'm calling it my "grand farewell tour" of food and wine. I will culminate next weekend with a full day of wine tasting in Napa Valley and a blow-out brunch on Mother's Day. Then I have to try to behave. I'm looking at this as a stage in a sort of grieving process. Food was/is a major part of my life. Growing up, eating was a time of comfort and safety. As an adult, I became a chef. Although I no longer cook professionally, I am still world-class and love to spend many hours preparing fabulous feasts for my friends and family. For me, it's therapy - the way many people paint or garden. Once I have this surgery, my relationship with food is going to change. So will my relationship with cooking. So I'm having this farewell because I'm giving up wine for a year, at least; the kinds of food I can eat will change, at least for the short haul. My sense of smell and taste will change, at least for the short haul. I've set myself a finite "good-bye" period. It ends with dinner on Mother's Day. Then I'm going on a weight watcher's program until my surgery. I may not lose any weight, but I won't gain anymore. Anyway, that's how I'm looking at it. Best regards, Jacqui ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Jacqui:

When I had my surgery my tastes certainly did change short term. When I got out of the hospital I physically couldn't eat lots of the stuff I had loved. But as time has gone by those things I lamented losing have slowly come back. I have to say that now there is NOTHING that I can't eat - but of course in moderation I never imagined before the surgery. The one exception to that is the wine. I loved wine though I only had a glass every couple of months before surgery. My surgeon said that while I was losing weight he wanted me to abstain totally. I had enough pressure on my liver by the surgery. The weight loss would put more on. I didn't need to further assault it by drinking. When I've finished there'll be plenty of time for moderate drinking.

Regards.

Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 244http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

Re: Overeating before surgery

Hi Pam - My surgery is scheduled for June 19. I, too, find myself eating a lot more now. I'm calling it my "grand farewell tour" of food and wine. I will culminate next weekend with a full day of wine tasting in Napa Valley and a blow-out brunch on Mother's Day. Then I have to try to behave. I'm looking at this as a stage in a sort of grieving process. Food was/is a major part of my life. Growing up, eating was a time of comfort and safety. As an adult, I became a chef. Although I no longer cook professionally, I am still world-class and love to spend many hours preparing fabulous feasts for my friends and family. For me, it's therapy - the way many people paint or garden. Once I have this surgery, my relationship with food is going to change. So will my relationship with cooking. So I'm having this farewell because I'm giving up wine for a year, at least; the kinds of food I can eat will change, at least for the short haul. My sense of smell and taste will change, at least for the short haul. I've set myself a finite "good-bye" period. It ends with dinner on Mother's Day. Then I'm going on a weight watcher's program until my surgery. I may not lose any weight, but I won't gain anymore. Anyway, that's how I'm looking at it. Best regards, Jacqui ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Jacqui:

When I had my surgery my tastes certainly did change short term. When I got out of the hospital I physically couldn't eat lots of the stuff I had loved. But as time has gone by those things I lamented losing have slowly come back. I have to say that now there is NOTHING that I can't eat - but of course in moderation I never imagined before the surgery. The one exception to that is the wine. I loved wine though I only had a glass every couple of months before surgery. My surgeon said that while I was losing weight he wanted me to abstain totally. I had enough pressure on my liver by the surgery. The weight loss would put more on. I didn't need to further assault it by drinking. When I've finished there'll be plenty of time for moderate drinking.

Regards.

Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 244http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

Re: Overeating before surgery

Hi Pam - My surgery is scheduled for June 19. I, too, find myself eating a lot more now. I'm calling it my "grand farewell tour" of food and wine. I will culminate next weekend with a full day of wine tasting in Napa Valley and a blow-out brunch on Mother's Day. Then I have to try to behave. I'm looking at this as a stage in a sort of grieving process. Food was/is a major part of my life. Growing up, eating was a time of comfort and safety. As an adult, I became a chef. Although I no longer cook professionally, I am still world-class and love to spend many hours preparing fabulous feasts for my friends and family. For me, it's therapy - the way many people paint or garden. Once I have this surgery, my relationship with food is going to change. So will my relationship with cooking. So I'm having this farewell because I'm giving up wine for a year, at least; the kinds of food I can eat will change, at least for the short haul. My sense of smell and taste will change, at least for the short haul. I've set myself a finite "good-bye" period. It ends with dinner on Mother's Day. Then I'm going on a weight watcher's program until my surgery. I may not lose any weight, but I won't gain anymore. Anyway, that's how I'm looking at it. Best regards, Jacqui ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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I am new to this list and I am not sure how long I can handle the abundance of emails but for now I am enjoying reading some of them. My insurance has approved for me to have an RNY and I am trying to start the process by getting into a surgeon in Columbus, Ohio. I am 23 and weigh 269 lbs and have tons of medical problems. Can someone please tell me what the difference is between the rny and the duodental switch? I am terrified at all this as I have a 4 month old son after battling infertility for a year and a half and I don't want to get sick and not be about to care for him and do things with him. I keep hearing horror stories with these gastrical surgeries that people get sick alot when they eat. Is this true? What about getting pregnant? That is a major concern for me! I still want one more child. Can a woman still get pregnant and have a normal pregnancy after the duo or ryn surgery? Have they been sick the whole pregnancy? Someone PLEASE write me back soon and help with some answers so that I can get this weight off my shoulders. If you know of any articles or websites please include them too! Thanks sooo sooo much. Stefany Blevins sblevins@...

Re: Overeating before surgery

Hi Pam - My surgery is scheduled for June 19. I, too, find myself eating a lot more now. I'm calling it my "grand farewell tour" of food and wine. I will culminate next weekend with a full day of wine tasting in Napa Valley and a blow-out brunch on Mother's Day. Then I have to try to behave. I'm looking at this as a stage in a sort of grieving process. Food was/is a major part of my life. Growing up, eating was a time of comfort and safety. As an adult, I became a chef. Although I no longer cook professionally, I am still world-class and love to spend many hours preparing fabulous feasts for my friends and family. For me, it's therapy - the way many people paint or garden. Once I have this surgery, my relationship with food is going to change. So will my relationship with cooking. So I'm having this farewell because I'm giving up wine for a year, at least; the kinds of food I can eat will change, at least for the short haul. My sense of smell and taste will change, at least for the short haul. I've set myself a finite "good-bye" period. It ends with dinner on Mother's Day. Then I'm going on a weight watcher's program until my surgery. I may not lose any weight, but I won't gain anymore. Anyway, that's how I'm looking at it. Best regards, Jacqui ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Stefany:

Get on the internet and go to www.duodenalswitch.com. Click on procedure. There is a good explanation of the difference between the DS and RNY there. There also is a good comparison on www.mywls.com. That is Heidi's site and is outstanding. In my opinion there are three things I would look at when deciding on a surgery. First is the odds of getting the weight off and keeping it off. The DS comes out slightly ahead on this comparison. Secondly I'd look at the risk of complication. As it is a simpler surgery the RNY comes out ahead on this. Finally I'd look at the quality of life after surgery. Here is where the DS shines. Continuing to use your stomach (though it is smaller) and your pyloric valve allows you to eat ANYTHING. With the RNY you have an artificial pouch which bypasses your pyloric valve and can create some severe problems. I chose the DS and am very happy with that choice.

There are indeed horror stories about this surgery, any surgery, really. Most do not have these problems but when someone does you hear lots about it. And your problems could affect virtually everything about your life, your eating with your family, your ability to have more children or even your life. But the odds against that are huge.

Fertility after either the RNY or DS is pretty much the same. After you have stabilized at a lower weight you are usually much more fertile than at the higher weight. A word of warning, however. Most surgeons require that you agree to refrain from becoming pregnant until you've lost your weight. It can be very dangerous to both you and your baby if you get pregnant while you are actively losing the weight. At your age that shouldn't be any problem at all. From what I understand there is no real difference in sickness during pregnancy before or after any WLS.

Regards.

Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 244http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

Re: Overeating before surgery

I am new to this list and I am not sure how long I can handle the abundance of emails but for now I am enjoying reading some of them. My insurance has approved for me to have an RNY and I am trying to start the process by getting into a surgeon in Columbus, Ohio. I am 23 and weigh 269 lbs and have tons of medical problems. Can someone please tell me what the difference is between the rny and the duodental switch? I am terrified at all this as I have a 4 month old son after battling infertility for a year and a half and I don't want to get sick and not be about to care for him and do things with him. I keep hearing horror stories with these gastrical surgeries that people get sick alot when they eat. Is this true? What about getting pregnant? That is a major concern for me! I still want one more child. Can a woman still get pregnant and have a normal pregnancy after the duo or ryn surgery? Have they been sick the whole pregnancy? Someone PLEASE write me back soon and help with some answers so that I can get this weight off my shoulders. If you know of any articles or websites please include them too! Thanks sooo sooo much. Stefany Blevins sblevins@...

[Guest guest]

Hi Stefany,

My name is Angel and I live one hour away from

Columbus. I have chosen the DS for just the reasons

Joe mentioned, better quality of life after surgery,

fully functioning stomach, no fear of regain of weight

and for someone who is super obese (as I am, BMI of

63, 378lbs) it will allow me to take more of the

weight off. I wish you the best in your research and

if you'd like to talk, just e-mail me at

angelquilt1@... or here on this list.

Sincerely, Angel

--- Joe Frost joefrost@...> wrote:

> Stefany:

>

> Get on the internet and go to

> www.duodenalswitch.com. Click on procedure. There

> is a good explanation of the difference between the

> DS and RNY there. There also is a good comparison

> on www.mywls.com. That is Heidi's site and is

> outstanding. In my opinion there are three things I

> would look at when deciding on a surgery. First is

> the odds of getting the weight off and keeping it

> off. The DS comes out slightly ahead on this

> comparison. Secondly I'd look at the risk of

> complication. As it is a simpler surgery the RNY

> comes out ahead on this. Finally I'd look at the

> quality of life after surgery. Here is where the DS

> shines. Continuing to use your stomach (though it

> is smaller) and your pyloric valve allows you to eat

> ANYTHING. With the RNY you have an artificial pouch

> which bypasses your pyloric valve and can create

> some severe problems. I chose the DS and am very

> happy with that choice.

>

> There are indeed horror stories about this surgery,

> any surgery, really. Most do not have these

> problems but when someone does you hear lots about

> it. And your problems could affect virtually

> everything about your life, your eating with your

> family, your ability to have more children or even

> your life. But the odds against that are huge.

>

> Fertility after either the RNY or DS is pretty much

> the same. After you have stabilized at a lower

> weight you are usually much more fertile than at the

> higher weight. A word of warning, however. Most

> surgeons require that you agree to refrain from

> becoming pregnant until you've lost your weight. It

> can be very dangerous to both you and your baby if

> you get pregnant while you are actively losing the

> weight. At your age that shouldn't be any problem

> at all. From what I understand there is no real

> difference in sickness during pregnancy before or

> after any WLS.

>

> Regards.

>

> Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart

> San , TX, 60 years old

> Surgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker

> Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch

> 340 starting weight, currently 244

> http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

>

>

> Re: Overeating before

> surgery

>

>

> I am new to this list and I am not sure how long I

> can handle the abundance of emails but for now I am

> enjoying reading some of them. My insurance has

> approved for me to have an RNY and I am trying to

> start the process by getting into a surgeon in

> Columbus, Ohio. I am 23 and weigh 269 lbs and have

> tons of medical problems. Can someone please tell

> me what the difference is between the rny and the

> duodental switch? I am terrified at all this as I

> have a 4 month old son after battling infertility

> for a year and a half and I don't want to get sick

> and not be about to care for him and do things with

> him. I keep hearing horror stories with these

> gastrical surgeries that people get sick alot when

> they eat. Is this true? What about getting

> pregnant? That is a major concern for me! I still

> want one more child. Can a woman still get pregnant

> and have a normal pregnancy after the duo or ryn

> surgery? Have they been sick the whole pregnancy?

> Someone PLEASE write me back soon and help with some

> answers so that I can get this weight off my

> shoulders. If you know of any articles or websites

> please include them too! Thanks sooo sooo much.

> Stefany Blevins sblevins@...

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Stefany,

My name is Angel and I live one hour away from

Columbus. I have chosen the DS for just the reasons

Joe mentioned, better quality of life after surgery,

fully functioning stomach, no fear of regain of weight

and for someone who is super obese (as I am, BMI of

63, 378lbs) it will allow me to take more of the

weight off. I wish you the best in your research and

if you'd like to talk, just e-mail me at

angelquilt1@... or here on this list.

Sincerely, Angel

--- Joe Frost joefrost@...> wrote:

> Stefany:

>

> Get on the internet and go to

> www.duodenalswitch.com. Click on procedure. There

> is a good explanation of the difference between the

> DS and RNY there. There also is a good comparison

> on www.mywls.com. That is Heidi's site and is

> outstanding. In my opinion there are three things I

> would look at when deciding on a surgery. First is

> the odds of getting the weight off and keeping it

> off. The DS comes out slightly ahead on this

> comparison. Secondly I'd look at the risk of

> complication. As it is a simpler surgery the RNY

> comes out ahead on this. Finally I'd look at the

> quality of life after surgery. Here is where the DS

> shines. Continuing to use your stomach (though it

> is smaller) and your pyloric valve allows you to eat

> ANYTHING. With the RNY you have an artificial pouch

> which bypasses your pyloric valve and can create

> some severe problems. I chose the DS and am very

> happy with that choice.

>

> There are indeed horror stories about this surgery,

> any surgery, really. Most do not have these

> problems but when someone does you hear lots about

> it. And your problems could affect virtually

> everything about your life, your eating with your

> family, your ability to have more children or even

> your life. But the odds against that are huge.

>

> Fertility after either the RNY or DS is pretty much

> the same. After you have stabilized at a lower

> weight you are usually much more fertile than at the

> higher weight. A word of warning, however. Most

> surgeons require that you agree to refrain from

> becoming pregnant until you've lost your weight. It

> can be very dangerous to both you and your baby if

> you get pregnant while you are actively losing the

> weight. At your age that shouldn't be any problem

> at all. From what I understand there is no real

> difference in sickness during pregnancy before or

> after any WLS.

>

> Regards.

>

> Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart

> San , TX, 60 years old

> Surgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker

> Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch

> 340 starting weight, currently 244

> http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

>

>

> Re: Overeating before

> surgery

>

>

> I am new to this list and I am not sure how long I

> can handle the abundance of emails but for now I am

> enjoying reading some of them. My insurance has

> approved for me to have an RNY and I am trying to

> start the process by getting into a surgeon in

> Columbus, Ohio. I am 23 and weigh 269 lbs and have

> tons of medical problems. Can someone please tell

> me what the difference is between the rny and the

> duodental switch? I am terrified at all this as I

> have a 4 month old son after battling infertility

> for a year and a half and I don't want to get sick

> and not be about to care for him and do things with

> him. I keep hearing horror stories with these

> gastrical surgeries that people get sick alot when

> they eat. Is this true? What about getting

> pregnant? That is a major concern for me! I still

> want one more child. Can a woman still get pregnant

> and have a normal pregnancy after the duo or ryn

> surgery? Have they been sick the whole pregnancy?

> Someone PLEASE write me back soon and help with some

> answers so that I can get this weight off my

> shoulders. If you know of any articles or websites

> please include them too! Thanks sooo sooo much.

> Stefany Blevins sblevins@...

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Stefany,

My name is Angel and I live one hour away from

Columbus. I have chosen the DS for just the reasons

Joe mentioned, better quality of life after surgery,

fully functioning stomach, no fear of regain of weight

and for someone who is super obese (as I am, BMI of

63, 378lbs) it will allow me to take more of the

weight off. I wish you the best in your research and

if you'd like to talk, just e-mail me at

angelquilt1@... or here on this list.

Sincerely, Angel

--- Joe Frost joefrost@...> wrote:

> Stefany:

>

> Get on the internet and go to

> www.duodenalswitch.com. Click on procedure. There

> is a good explanation of the difference between the

> DS and RNY there. There also is a good comparison

> on www.mywls.com. That is Heidi's site and is

> outstanding. In my opinion there are three things I

> would look at when deciding on a surgery. First is

> the odds of getting the weight off and keeping it

> off. The DS comes out slightly ahead on this

> comparison. Secondly I'd look at the risk of

> complication. As it is a simpler surgery the RNY

> comes out ahead on this. Finally I'd look at the

> quality of life after surgery. Here is where the DS

> shines. Continuing to use your stomach (though it

> is smaller) and your pyloric valve allows you to eat

> ANYTHING. With the RNY you have an artificial pouch

> which bypasses your pyloric valve and can create

> some severe problems. I chose the DS and am very

> happy with that choice.

>

> There are indeed horror stories about this surgery,

> any surgery, really. Most do not have these

> problems but when someone does you hear lots about

> it. And your problems could affect virtually

> everything about your life, your eating with your

> family, your ability to have more children or even

> your life. But the odds against that are huge.

>

> Fertility after either the RNY or DS is pretty much

> the same. After you have stabilized at a lower

> weight you are usually much more fertile than at the

> higher weight. A word of warning, however. Most

> surgeons require that you agree to refrain from

> becoming pregnant until you've lost your weight. It

> can be very dangerous to both you and your baby if

> you get pregnant while you are actively losing the

> weight. At your age that shouldn't be any problem

> at all. From what I understand there is no real

> difference in sickness during pregnancy before or

> after any WLS.

>

> Regards.

>

> Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart

> San , TX, 60 years old

> Surgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker

> Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch

> 340 starting weight, currently 244

> http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

>

>

> Re: Overeating before

> surgery

>

>

> I am new to this list and I am not sure how long I

> can handle the abundance of emails but for now I am

> enjoying reading some of them. My insurance has

> approved for me to have an RNY and I am trying to

> start the process by getting into a surgeon in

> Columbus, Ohio. I am 23 and weigh 269 lbs and have

> tons of medical problems. Can someone please tell

> me what the difference is between the rny and the

> duodental switch? I am terrified at all this as I

> have a 4 month old son after battling infertility

> for a year and a half and I don't want to get sick

> and not be about to care for him and do things with

> him. I keep hearing horror stories with these

> gastrical surgeries that people get sick alot when

> they eat. Is this true? What about getting

> pregnant? That is a major concern for me! I still

> want one more child. Can a woman still get pregnant

> and have a normal pregnancy after the duo or ryn

> surgery? Have they been sick the whole pregnancy?

> Someone PLEASE write me back soon and help with some

> answers so that I can get this weight off my

> shoulders. If you know of any articles or websites

> please include them too! Thanks sooo sooo much.

> Stefany Blevins sblevins@...

>

__________________________________________________