Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 At 05:02 PM 9/26/2009, you wrote: Have any of you had any luck killing Candida with clove tea? I read about it on candida-cure-recipes.com. Remember that herbal teas, with the exception of ginger and the mints, are not SCD legal. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Remember that herbal teas, with the exception of ginger and the mints, are not SCD legal.Oh right...oops =) Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO illegal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 what about real cloves in boiling water??? eileen > > > Remember that herbal teas, with the exception of ginger and the > > mints, are not SCD legal. > > > Oh right...oops =) > > Pour Dieu, pour terre, > Alyssa 15 > UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > No meds except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO > illegal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 what about real cloves in boiling water??? eileen > > > Remember that herbal teas, with the exception of ginger and the > > mints, are not SCD legal. > > > Oh right...oops =) > > Pour Dieu, pour terre, > Alyssa 15 > UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > No meds except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO > illegal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 what about real cloves in boiling water??? eileen > > > Remember that herbal teas, with the exception of ginger and the > > mints, are not SCD legal. > > > Oh right...oops =) > > Pour Dieu, pour terre, > Alyssa 15 > UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > No meds except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO > illegal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 what about real cloves in boiling water???That's what I was talking about.. I was just gonna do whole cloves, whole cinnamon sticks, and whole ginger pieces in boiling water, and then drink it. Is that still illegal? Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO illegal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Have any of you had any luck killing Candida with clove tea? I read >about it on candida-cure-recipes.com. Remember that herbal teas, with the exception of ginger and the mints, are not SCD legal. — Marilyn True. But are cloves themselves illegal? If not, why couldn't one make tea with whole cloves? This would be using the whole, pure, real stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Have any of you had any luck killing Candida with clove tea? I read >about it on candida-cure-recipes.com. Remember that herbal teas, with the exception of ginger and the mints, are not SCD legal. — Marilyn True. But are cloves themselves illegal? If not, why couldn't one make tea with whole cloves? This would be using the whole, pure, real stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 I tried cinnamon three different times. And I felt awful. At first I thought it would be some kind of die-off. But later I concluded that it was actually worsening my condition. > > Have any of you had any luck killing Candida with clove tea? I read > about it on candida-cure-recipes.com. > > Pour Dieu, pour terre, > Alyssa 15 > UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > No meds except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO > illegal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 I tried cinnamon three different times. And I felt awful. At first I thought it would be some kind of die-off. But later I concluded that it was actually worsening my condition. > > Have any of you had any luck killing Candida with clove tea? I read > about it on candida-cure-recipes.com. > > Pour Dieu, pour terre, > Alyssa 15 > UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > No meds except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO > illegal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 I tried cinnamon three different times. And I felt awful. At first I thought it would be some kind of die-off. But later I concluded that it was actually worsening my condition. > > Have any of you had any luck killing Candida with clove tea? I read > about it on candida-cure-recipes.com. > > Pour Dieu, pour terre, > Alyssa 15 > UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008 > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > No meds except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO > illegal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 At 12:52 PM 9/27/2009, you wrote: what about real cloves in boiling water??? Boiling cloves in hot water makes clove tea. Clove tea is an herbal tea. The only herbals which are legal teas on SCD are the mints and ginger tea. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 I get a terrible headache from cinnamon. This is not just since SCD so I don't think it's die-off. Ginger is fine in all ways. I don't know about cloves. Maybe I should try it! I tried cinnamon three different times. And I felt awful. At first I thought it would be some kind of die-off. But later I concluded that it was actually worsening my condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Cloves themselves are not illegal. But you have to look at the difference between using, say, a half teaspoon of powdered cloves in an entire cake or pie versus taking that same half teaspoon of cloves and pouring boiling water over it and drinking the resultant tea. In the former, you only get a small amount of clove. In the latter, you dump a LOT of clove down your gut. True, that WOULD be a lot of cloves if you put that much powdered into a teacup. But, cloves are pretty strong. I was envisioning putting 1-2 cloves into the tea, steeping a few minutes and then removing the cloves. Do you really think there would be the equivalent of that much ground cloves in the tea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Cloves themselves are not illegal. But you have to look at the difference between using, say, a half teaspoon of powdered cloves in an entire cake or pie versus taking that same half teaspoon of cloves and pouring boiling water over it and drinking the resultant tea. In the former, you only get a small amount of clove. In the latter, you dump a LOT of clove down your gut. True, that WOULD be a lot of cloves if you put that much powdered into a teacup. But, cloves are pretty strong. I was envisioning putting 1-2 cloves into the tea, steeping a few minutes and then removing the cloves. Do you really think there would be the equivalent of that much ground cloves in the tea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Cloves themselves are not illegal. But you have to look at the difference between using, say, a half teaspoon of powdered cloves in an entire cake or pie versus taking that same half teaspoon of cloves and pouring boiling water over it and drinking the resultant tea. In the former, you only get a small amount of clove. In the latter, you dump a LOT of clove down your gut. True, that WOULD be a lot of cloves if you put that much powdered into a teacup. But, cloves are pretty strong. I was envisioning putting 1-2 cloves into the tea, steeping a few minutes and then removing the cloves. Do you really think there would be the equivalent of that much ground cloves in the tea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:09:53 -0400, kkmumbower kkmumbower@...> wrote: > > > Remember that herbs/spices are all polysaccharides. As Marilyn reminded > us, it is one thing to use a small amount of herbs/spices in a batch of > muffins with 16 servings or in a pan of food serving 4 to 8 then in a > cup of tea serving one person, even if you don't let it steep too long. > > Of course you can choose to go ahead and try the clove tea. Just > remember that your body may not tolerate it, or there may be some > long-term damage if you have clove tea (or another type of herbal tea) > often. > > I am someone who's upper GI won't tolerate ginger or mint or green tea > at all, and have to make the weaker black teas even more weak (lots of > water). My upper GI also rejects most spices used in baking and > cooking. I am lucky, I suppose [sigh] that my upper GI reacts so > quickly and I don't do long-term damage to my lower GI through ingesting > polysaccharides. One cup of weak clove tea would have me in severe RUQ > pain and nausea within 2 minutes..... > > Kim M. > SCD 5+ years I've never heard before that " herbs/spice are all polysaccharides. " Sorry about being skeptical, but I'd like to see proof of that. As I said in a previous post, I think eliminating all of them is eliminating (certainly in some cases) a good source of " medicine " that's far less harmful than pharmaceutical drugs normally are. n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 I get a terrible headache from cinnamon. There is a key extract in cinnamon that is an anti-viral. Here's an interestingstory about how this element of cinnamon was discovered - based on thebible:http://www.israel21c.org/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=1649:Key%20to%20cinnamon%20anti-viral%20extract%20found%20in%20the%20Bible,%20says%20Israeli%20researcher & catid=57:health & Itemid=63http://tinyurl.com/ydeprtjThis is not just since SCD so I don't think it's die-off. Ginger is fine in all ways. I don't know about cloves. Maybe I should try it!I tried cinnamon three different times. And I felt awful. At first I thought it would be some kind of die-off. But later I concluded that it was actually worsening my condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Thanks. That's really interesting. I never heard cinnamon was anti-viral! There is a key extract in cinnamon that is an anti-viral. Here's an interesting story about how this element of cinnamon was discovered - based on the bible: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 We each make our own choices of what to do. We have to weigh the consequences, give things a try if we feel an option has a greater benefit than risk. I agree with you that pharmaceutical drugs aren't always the best option, when compared to herbal options. But both can be harmful if misused -- and our bodies can be damaged by herbals over the long-term just as they can be damaged by pharmaceuticals. That doesn't mean we don't try things, but I prefer to do the research first so I have a great understanding of what will happen and why.Sounds like that pretty much wraps everything up =) It IS nice to have so many different options and perspectives in this group. But in the end, it all boils down to 'everybody's different', every time. Godspeed!Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO illegal) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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