Re: Enteric coating/Acidophillus supplement

May 4, 2001

Dear Anita,

I take Dairy Care every a.m. I open 2 capsules and add it to a

little vanilla yogurt. It has no taste and has done wonders for me.

I too was concerned about the " enteric coating " .

Jane J.

BMI 42 and Shrinking

Post-Op

Lap BPD/DS

April 26, 2001

Dr. Ren

NYU Medical Center, NYC

www.thinforlife.org

> Okay,

>

> I also have another question. Right now I'm taking DairyCare for

my lactose intolerance and it's doing wonders (acidophillus + lactase

in it). The only problem is that it's enteric coated and some people

have said that we have problems dissolving enteric coatings after

WLS. The other acidophillus supplements I've seen have lactOSE in

them, not lactase. I don't know why I'd want the thing I'm having

trouble absorbing (lactose) instead of the enzyme that helps me

absorb it (lactase), but so far only DairyCare has the Acidophillus

and lactase. If the enteric coating is not a problem, I'll stick

with DairyCare, but otherwise what's a good acidophillis supplement

that doesn't contain milk or lactose ?

>

> Thanks

>

> Anita

> Pre-pre-op in Denver

May 4, 2001

Anita;

The enteric coating on the Dairy Care also has me concerned. I

find Dairy Care to be the ONLY one that helps me. Forget about

Lactaid. No matter how many of those I take, they STILL do

nothing for me. Bummer, because dairy foods are my single

favorite food group ;-}

At least there is Lactaid Milk which has all the lactose removed (if

you get Lactaid 100). I predict that eventually manufacterers will

see the value of offering more dairy foods without lactose and

we'll see it in cheeses and yougurts. But in the meantime, we

have Dairy Care!

I first found out about Dairy Care from some people on another

list and they were all post-ops who were using it. That suggest

that maybe they were able to use the enteric.

Second, you can break open the capsules and mix the powder in

a drink if the enteric just doesn't work for you.

I've been meaning to contact the company and ask about this. I

could have sworn that the first time I ordered the pills they were

NOT enteric coated. They either use both (I ordered different size

packages this time than the first time), may have switched, or

else my memory is just bad (which I KNOW it to be '-} )

The company that makes them is STILL a small independent

company. Maybe if they get letters from lots of WLS patients,

they'll remedy the situation. It would be better to try to get them

to

change now than waiting till they're bought up by some huge

food or drug conglomerate.

Go to daircare.com and click on their 'contact us'.

hugs,

gobo

> Okay,

>

> I also have another question. Right now I'm taking DairyCare

for my lactose intolerance and it's doing wonders (acidophillus +

lactase in it). The only problem is that it's enteric coated and

some people have said that we have problems dissolving

enteric coatings after WLS. The other acidophillus supplements

I've seen have lactOSE in them, not lactase. I don't know why I'd

want the thing I'm having trouble absorbing (lactose) instead of

the enzyme that helps me absorb it (lactase), but so far only

DairyCare has the Acidophillus and lactase. If the enteric

coating is not a problem, I'll stick with DairyCare, but otherwise

what's a good acidophillis supplement that doesn't contain milk

or lactose ?

>

> Thanks

>

> Anita

> Pre-pre-op in Denver

May 4, 2001

Anita;

The enteric coating on the Dairy Care also has me concerned. I

find Dairy Care to be the ONLY one that helps me. Forget about

Lactaid. No matter how many of those I take, they STILL do

nothing for me. Bummer, because dairy foods are my single

favorite food group ;-}

At least there is Lactaid Milk which has all the lactose removed (if

you get Lactaid 100). I predict that eventually manufacterers will

see the value of offering more dairy foods without lactose and

we'll see it in cheeses and yougurts. But in the meantime, we

have Dairy Care!

I first found out about Dairy Care from some people on another

list and they were all post-ops who were using it. That suggest

that maybe they were able to use the enteric.

Second, you can break open the capsules and mix the powder in

a drink if the enteric just doesn't work for you.

I've been meaning to contact the company and ask about this. I

could have sworn that the first time I ordered the pills they were

NOT enteric coated. They either use both (I ordered different size

packages this time than the first time), may have switched, or

else my memory is just bad (which I KNOW it to be '-} )

The company that makes them is STILL a small independent

company. Maybe if they get letters from lots of WLS patients,

they'll remedy the situation. It would be better to try to get them

to

change now than waiting till they're bought up by some huge

food or drug conglomerate.

Go to daircare.com and click on their 'contact us'.

hugs,

gobo

> Okay,

>

> I also have another question. Right now I'm taking DairyCare

for my lactose intolerance and it's doing wonders (acidophillus +

lactase in it). The only problem is that it's enteric coated and

some people have said that we have problems dissolving

enteric coatings after WLS. The other acidophillus supplements

I've seen have lactOSE in them, not lactase. I don't know why I'd

want the thing I'm having trouble absorbing (lactose) instead of

the enzyme that helps me absorb it (lactase), but so far only

DairyCare has the Acidophillus and lactase. If the enteric

coating is not a problem, I'll stick with DairyCare, but otherwise

what's a good acidophillis supplement that doesn't contain milk

or lactose ?

>

> Thanks

>

> Anita

> Pre-pre-op in Denver

May 4, 2001

My wife takes acidophilus on a regular basis. The brand she buys is a gel cap and is not enteric coated. It's a good idea to get that type if you can. But if you have a large supply of enteric coated pills I'd recommend splitting them to expose the inside. If they are football shaped I'd suggest splitting them longways if you can.

Regards.

Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 244http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

Re: Enteric coating/Acidophillus supplement

> Dear Anita,> > I take Dairy Care every a.m. I open 2 capsules and add it to a > little vanilla yogurt. It has no taste and has done wonders for me. > I too was concerned about the "enteric coating".> > Jane J.> BMI 42 and Shrinking> Post-Op> Lap BPD/DS> April 26, 2001> Dr. Ren> NYU Medical Center, NYC> www.thinforlife.org > > > > > > > > > > > Okay,> > > > I also have another question. Right now I'm taking DairyCare for > my lactose intolerance and it's doing wonders (acidophillus + lactase > in it). The only problem is that it's enteric coated and some people > have said that we have problems dissolving enteric coatings after > WLS. The other acidophillus supplements I've seen have lactOSE in > them, not lactase. I don't know why I'd want the thing I'm having > trouble absorbing (lactose) instead of the enzyme that helps me > absorb it (lactase), but so far only DairyCare has the Acidophillus > and lactase. If the enteric coating is not a problem, I'll stick > with DairyCare, but otherwise what's a good acidophillis supplement > that doesn't contain milk or lactose ?> > > > Thanks> > > > Anita> > Pre-pre-op in Denver> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------->

May 4, 2001

My wife takes acidophilus on a regular basis. The brand she buys is a gel cap and is not enteric coated. It's a good idea to get that type if you can. But if you have a large supply of enteric coated pills I'd recommend splitting them to expose the inside. If they are football shaped I'd suggest splitting them longways if you can.

Regards.

Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 244http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

Re: Enteric coating/Acidophillus supplement

> Dear Anita,> > I take Dairy Care every a.m. I open 2 capsules and add it to a > little vanilla yogurt. It has no taste and has done wonders for me. > I too was concerned about the "enteric coating".> > Jane J.> BMI 42 and Shrinking> Post-Op> Lap BPD/DS> April 26, 2001> Dr. Ren> NYU Medical Center, NYC> www.thinforlife.org > > > > > > > > > > > Okay,> > > > I also have another question. Right now I'm taking DairyCare for > my lactose intolerance and it's doing wonders (acidophillus + lactase > in it). The only problem is that it's enteric coated and some people > have said that we have problems dissolving enteric coatings after > WLS. The other acidophillus supplements I've seen have lactOSE in > them, not lactase. I don't know why I'd want the thing I'm having > trouble absorbing (lactose) instead of the enzyme that helps me > absorb it (lactase), but so far only DairyCare has the Acidophillus > and lactase. If the enteric coating is not a problem, I'll stick > with DairyCare, but otherwise what's a good acidophillis supplement > that doesn't contain milk or lactose ?> > > > Thanks> > > > Anita> > Pre-pre-op in Denver> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------->

May 4, 2001

Dear Anita:

I take DairyCare and it works great and I have been taking it for a good while and have no plans to stop so I wouldn't worry about it especially as it seems to be working for you already.

Huggles,

Tiger

May 4, 2001

Joe,

Does Joy's have lactase or lactose in it ? I'm probably going to stick with

Dairy Care and open them since they're working great for me, but if there's

another one out there with acidophilus and lactase that's in a capsule I can

just swallow, that would be an option as well. I haven't found anything

comparable yet.

Anita

Pre-pre-op in Denver

> > > Okay,

> > >

> > > I also have another question. Right now I'm taking DairyCare for

> > my lactose intolerance and it's doing wonders (acidophillus + lactase

> > in it). The only problem is that it's enteric coated and some people

> > have said that we have problems dissolving enteric coatings after

> > WLS. The other acidophillus supplements I've seen have lactOSE in

> > them, not lactase. I don't know why I'd want the thing I'm having

> > trouble absorbing (lactose) instead of the enzyme that helps me

> > absorb it (lactase), but so far only DairyCare has the Acidophillus

> > and lactase. If the enteric coating is not a problem, I'll stick

> > with DairyCare, but otherwise what's a good acidophillis supplement

> > that doesn't contain milk or lactose ?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Anita

> > > Pre-pre-op in Denver

> >

> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

May 4, 2001

Sunrider International makes a great acidophilus supplement. It is called

" Vitadophilus " and comes 10 to a box. The acidophilus is encased in a pectin

solution so that it will be digested in the intestines rather than being

dissolved by acid in the stomach. I eat it plain from the package, but you

can mix it into a smoothie or whatnot. It tastes like apple powder is the

best way I can explain it.

Sunrider isn't available in too many stores...go to their website for more

info:

www.sunriderinternational.com

Hope this helps. Best wishes,

:0)

May 5, 2001

I have a capsuled Acidophilus product made by Sundown (Sundowner?)

vitamin co. that contains both acidophilus and Lactase. I found it at

Wal-Mart (go figure).

Hugs,

Liane

> > > > Okay,

> > > >

> > > > I also have another question. Right now I'm taking DairyCare

for

> > > my lactose intolerance and it's doing wonders (acidophillus +

lactase

> > > in it). The only problem is that it's enteric coated and some

people

> > > have said that we have problems dissolving enteric coatings

after

> > > WLS. The other acidophillus supplements I've seen have lactOSE

in

> > > them, not lactase. I don't know why I'd want the thing I'm

having

> > > trouble absorbing (lactose) instead of the enzyme that helps me

> > > absorb it (lactase), but so far only DairyCare has the

Acidophillus

> > > and lactase. If the enteric coating is not a problem, I'll

stick

> > > with DairyCare, but otherwise what's a good acidophillis

supplement

> > > that doesn't contain milk or lactose ?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > > Anita

> > > > Pre-pre-op in Denver

> > >

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> > >

May 5, 2001

Liane,

Cool, I'll have to check it out. I think that's what makes DairyCare so

effective. The combination of acidophilus and lactase. It would be nice if I

could just get it at the store instead of waiting for it to be shipped

thanks *hugs*

Anita

> > > > > Okay,

> > > > >

> > > > > I also have another question. Right now I'm taking DairyCare

> for

> > > > my lactose intolerance and it's doing wonders (acidophillus +

> lactase

> > > > in it). The only problem is that it's enteric coated and some

> people

> > > > have said that we have problems dissolving enteric coatings

> after

> > > > WLS. The other acidophillus supplements I've seen have lactOSE

> in

> > > > them, not lactase. I don't know why I'd want the thing I'm

> having

> > > > trouble absorbing (lactose) instead of the enzyme that helps me

> > > > absorb it (lactase), but so far only DairyCare has the

> Acidophillus

> > > > and lactase. If the enteric coating is not a problem, I'll

> stick

> > > > with DairyCare, but otherwise what's a good acidophillis

> supplement

> > > > that doesn't contain milk or lactose ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > > > Anita

> > > > > Pre-pre-op in Denver

> > > >

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

> > > >

May 5, 2001

Dear Nan E:

You have to be careful about opening capsules as some were not meant to be taken that way and can cause stomach problems.

I am sure as I asked my doc that it is okay to take the Dairy Care that way but do please be careful and check before taking anything that way without checking.

FYI did you all know that the normal Ferrous Sulfate tablets, (the red iron pills) are not water soluble but fat soluble? I didn't until I asked Dr. A about my PCP giving me a script for them because my last bloodwork showed I am anemic, Who knew?? Also just as a point of interest I was also talking to my nutritionist told me that even though spinach, (I love spinach) is very high in iron we absorb almost none of it as it has some kind of binder on the iron and isn't absorbed in any ones system.

Huggles,

Tiger

May 5, 2001

Dear Nan E:

You have to be careful about opening capsules as some were not meant to be taken that way and can cause stomach problems.

I am sure as I asked my doc that it is okay to take the Dairy Care that way but do please be careful and check before taking anything that way without checking.

FYI did you all know that the normal Ferrous Sulfate tablets, (the red iron pills) are not water soluble but fat soluble? I didn't until I asked Dr. A about my PCP giving me a script for them because my last bloodwork showed I am anemic, Who knew?? Also just as a point of interest I was also talking to my nutritionist told me that even though spinach, (I love spinach) is very high in iron we absorb almost none of it as it has some kind of binder on the iron and isn't absorbed in any ones system.

Huggles,

Tiger

May 5, 2001

Anita....

At about 2 months post-op I decided to be brave and had a glass of

milk. The next several hours I felt like I had a rock in my abdomen and

decided to try some Dairy Care just to see what happened. Within a

short time I felt much better and the rock feeling was gone. I've taken

Dairy Care every day since and have no problems at all with milk

products...and I consume quite a bit of milk and cheese in my diet.

I don't open the capsules (swallow them whole instead) and they work

just fine. In fact, I put one in a glass of water as an experiment and

it dissolved pretty quickly. Lots of post-ops take Dairy Care and have

no problem with the enteric coating on this particular pill. I used to

take two capsules a day but dropped down to one and that is working

just fine.

As far as my experience shows you won't need to change from Dairy Care

after your DS, it will work just fine.

=====

H

Dr. Keshishian 11-21-00

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May 5, 2001