Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Thanks Eleanor. I will remember to chew chew chew. I guess I am looking forward to my son's birthday on the 4th as they always would ask me why I would not have a hotdog (14 and 11). Well, I will be careful :>) Pam Marsh --- Eleanor Oster wls@...> wrote: > Well, I do eat them. Actually, I was a little upset > that there aren't > any Casper's in the San area. I LOVE the cheese > Polish dogs. More > flavor than most hotdogs. Yes, you do need to be > very careful to chew > very carefully. I found that out the one time I > DIDN'T. Ouchie ouchie > ouchie said poor old pouchie! > > Pamela A Marsh wrote: > > >I have been cooking on the grill every weekend and > >hotdogs are one of the foods that I loved pre > surgery > >and boy I wish I could just have a bite. That was > the > >reasoning for the inquiry. If its okay, the next > >time, I might just try a little piece. lol > > > > > -- > Eleanor Oster > eleanor@... (personal address) > www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm > San , CA > Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003 > P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA) > ~5'9 " tall > 05/09/2003 319 Orientation > 07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery > Current ~150 Goal until plastics? > Goal 140-150? > > ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Thanks Eleanor. I will remember to chew chew chew. I guess I am looking forward to my son's birthday on the 4th as they always would ask me why I would not have a hotdog (14 and 11). Well, I will be careful :>) Pam Marsh --- Eleanor Oster wls@...> wrote: > Well, I do eat them. Actually, I was a little upset > that there aren't > any Casper's in the San area. I LOVE the cheese > Polish dogs. More > flavor than most hotdogs. Yes, you do need to be > very careful to chew > very carefully. I found that out the one time I > DIDN'T. Ouchie ouchie > ouchie said poor old pouchie! > > Pamela A Marsh wrote: > > >I have been cooking on the grill every weekend and > >hotdogs are one of the foods that I loved pre > surgery > >and boy I wish I could just have a bite. That was > the > >reasoning for the inquiry. If its okay, the next > >time, I might just try a little piece. lol > > > > > -- > Eleanor Oster > eleanor@... (personal address) > www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm > San , CA > Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003 > P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA) > ~5'9 " tall > 05/09/2003 319 Orientation > 07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery > Current ~150 Goal until plastics? > Goal 140-150? > > ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Thanks Eleanor. I will remember to chew chew chew. I guess I am looking forward to my son's birthday on the 4th as they always would ask me why I would not have a hotdog (14 and 11). Well, I will be careful :>) Pam Marsh --- Eleanor Oster wls@...> wrote: > Well, I do eat them. Actually, I was a little upset > that there aren't > any Casper's in the San area. I LOVE the cheese > Polish dogs. More > flavor than most hotdogs. Yes, you do need to be > very careful to chew > very carefully. I found that out the one time I > DIDN'T. Ouchie ouchie > ouchie said poor old pouchie! > > Pamela A Marsh wrote: > > >I have been cooking on the grill every weekend and > >hotdogs are one of the foods that I loved pre > surgery > >and boy I wish I could just have a bite. That was > the > >reasoning for the inquiry. If its okay, the next > >time, I might just try a little piece. lol > > > > > -- > Eleanor Oster > eleanor@... (personal address) > www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm > San , CA > Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003 > P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA) > ~5'9 " tall > 05/09/2003 319 Orientation > 07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery > Current ~150 Goal until plastics? > Goal 140-150? > > ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 I would recommend trying one BEFORE the birthday, at home. That way, if it turns out you CAN'T handle it, you won't embarrass yourself or mess up your enjoyment of a special day. This is always a good idea with foods you aren't sure about. The first time, try it in a setting where negative consequences won't be as upsetting. Then if the food does cause problems, you'll know to have something else. You can try that food again in a few weeks. Pamela A Marsh wrote: > Thanks Eleanor. I will remember to chew chew chew. I guess I am > looking forward to my son's birthday on the 4th as they always would > ask me why I would not have a hotdog (14 and 11). Well, I will be > careful :>) -- Eleanor Oster eleanor@... (personal address) www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm San , CA Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003 P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA) ~5'9 " tall 05/09/2003 319 Orientation 07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery Current ~150 Goal until plastics? Goal 140-150? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 I would recommend trying one BEFORE the birthday, at home. That way, if it turns out you CAN'T handle it, you won't embarrass yourself or mess up your enjoyment of a special day. This is always a good idea with foods you aren't sure about. The first time, try it in a setting where negative consequences won't be as upsetting. Then if the food does cause problems, you'll know to have something else. You can try that food again in a few weeks. Pamela A Marsh wrote: > Thanks Eleanor. I will remember to chew chew chew. I guess I am > looking forward to my son's birthday on the 4th as they always would > ask me why I would not have a hotdog (14 and 11). Well, I will be > careful :>) -- Eleanor Oster eleanor@... (personal address) www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm San , CA Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003 P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA) ~5'9 " tall 05/09/2003 319 Orientation 07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery Current ~150 Goal until plastics? Goal 140-150? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 I would recommend trying one BEFORE the birthday, at home. That way, if it turns out you CAN'T handle it, you won't embarrass yourself or mess up your enjoyment of a special day. This is always a good idea with foods you aren't sure about. The first time, try it in a setting where negative consequences won't be as upsetting. Then if the food does cause problems, you'll know to have something else. You can try that food again in a few weeks. Pamela A Marsh wrote: > Thanks Eleanor. I will remember to chew chew chew. I guess I am > looking forward to my son's birthday on the 4th as they always would > ask me why I would not have a hotdog (14 and 11). Well, I will be > careful :>) -- Eleanor Oster eleanor@... (personal address) www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm San , CA Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003 P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA) ~5'9 " tall 05/09/2003 319 Orientation 07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery Current ~150 Goal until plastics? Goal 140-150? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Sure thing. Thanks again. Pam Marsh --- Eleanor Oster wls@...> wrote: > I would recommend trying one BEFORE the birthday, at > home. That way, if > it turns out you CAN'T handle it, you won't > embarrass yourself or mess > up your enjoyment of a special day. This is always a > good idea with > foods you aren't sure about. The first time, try it > in a setting where > negative consequences won't be as upsetting. Then if > the food does cause > problems, you'll know to have something else. You > can try that food > again in a few weeks. > > Pamela A Marsh wrote: > > > Thanks Eleanor. I will remember to chew chew > chew. I guess I am > > looking forward to my son's birthday on the 4th > as they always would > > ask me why I would not have a hotdog (14 and 11). > Well, I will be > > careful :>) > > -- > Eleanor Oster > eleanor@... (personal address) > www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm > San , CA > Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003 > P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA) > ~5'9 " tall > 05/09/2003 319 Orientation > 07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery > Current ~150 Goal until plastics? > Goal 140-150? > > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Sure thing. Thanks again. Pam Marsh --- Eleanor Oster wls@...> wrote: > I would recommend trying one BEFORE the birthday, at > home. That way, if > it turns out you CAN'T handle it, you won't > embarrass yourself or mess > up your enjoyment of a special day. This is always a > good idea with > foods you aren't sure about. The first time, try it > in a setting where > negative consequences won't be as upsetting. Then if > the food does cause > problems, you'll know to have something else. You > can try that food > again in a few weeks. > > Pamela A Marsh wrote: > > > Thanks Eleanor. I will remember to chew chew > chew. I guess I am > > looking forward to my son's birthday on the 4th > as they always would > > ask me why I would not have a hotdog (14 and 11). > Well, I will be > > careful :>) > > -- > Eleanor Oster > eleanor@... (personal address) > www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm > San , CA > Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003 > P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA) > ~5'9 " tall > 05/09/2003 319 Orientation > 07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery > Current ~150 Goal until plastics? > Goal 140-150? > > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Sure thing. Thanks again. Pam Marsh --- Eleanor Oster wls@...> wrote: > I would recommend trying one BEFORE the birthday, at > home. That way, if > it turns out you CAN'T handle it, you won't > embarrass yourself or mess > up your enjoyment of a special day. This is always a > good idea with > foods you aren't sure about. The first time, try it > in a setting where > negative consequences won't be as upsetting. Then if > the food does cause > problems, you'll know to have something else. You > can try that food > again in a few weeks. > > Pamela A Marsh wrote: > > > Thanks Eleanor. I will remember to chew chew > chew. I guess I am > > looking forward to my son's birthday on the 4th > as they always would > > ask me why I would not have a hotdog (14 and 11). > Well, I will be > > careful :>) > > -- > Eleanor Oster > eleanor@... (personal address) > www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm > San , CA > Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003 > P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA) > ~5'9 " tall > 05/09/2003 319 Orientation > 07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery > Current ~150 Goal until plastics? > Goal 140-150? > > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Yes, I found two hot dogs/sausages, both from Costco, that don’t cause me a reaction. One has no sugar while the other has dextrose. Contrary to Elaine’s BTVC version of SCD Dr. Haas in his reprinted 1951 book titled, “Management of Celiac Disease” experimented with glucose and fructose to help his hospitalized patients gain weight. Dextrose is also known as Glucose, a true monosaccharide. I have been using both dextrose and fructose to gain all of my lost weight back. Costco has both polish sausages and hot dogs that they serve in their food courts. The polish sausage has sucrose type disaccharide sugar that will make us sick. Their hot dogs (also sold in the chill section) only has dextrose. The Costco sausage is chicken something but I don’t think I have the product number. I kind of think this product may only be available in Hawaii. Aloha, Mort From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of rainierifire3 Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:51 PM To: BTVC-SCD Subject: hot dogs Hi, I know most processed foods are off limits. But I am wondering if anyone eats hot dogs? Is there a brand that is legal? Thanks, good luck to all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Yes, I found two hot dogs/sausages, both from Costco, that don’t cause me a reaction. One has no sugar while the other has dextrose. Contrary to Elaine’s BTVC version of SCD Dr. Haas in his reprinted 1951 book titled, “Management of Celiac Disease” experimented with glucose and fructose to help his hospitalized patients gain weight. Dextrose is also known as Glucose, a true monosaccharide. I have been using both dextrose and fructose to gain all of my lost weight back. Costco has both polish sausages and hot dogs that they serve in their food courts. The polish sausage has sucrose type disaccharide sugar that will make us sick. Their hot dogs (also sold in the chill section) only has dextrose. The Costco sausage is chicken something but I don’t think I have the product number. I kind of think this product may only be available in Hawaii. Aloha, Mort From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of rainierifire3 Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:51 PM To: BTVC-SCD Subject: hot dogs Hi, I know most processed foods are off limits. But I am wondering if anyone eats hot dogs? Is there a brand that is legal? Thanks, good luck to all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Yes, I found two hot dogs/sausages, both from Costco, that don’t cause me a reaction. One has no sugar while the other has dextrose. Contrary to Elaine’s BTVC version of SCD Dr. Haas in his reprinted 1951 book titled, “Management of Celiac Disease” experimented with glucose and fructose to help his hospitalized patients gain weight. Dextrose is also known as Glucose, a true monosaccharide. I have been using both dextrose and fructose to gain all of my lost weight back. Costco has both polish sausages and hot dogs that they serve in their food courts. The polish sausage has sucrose type disaccharide sugar that will make us sick. Their hot dogs (also sold in the chill section) only has dextrose. The Costco sausage is chicken something but I don’t think I have the product number. I kind of think this product may only be available in Hawaii. Aloha, Mort From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of rainierifire3 Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:51 PM To: BTVC-SCD Subject: hot dogs Hi, I know most processed foods are off limits. But I am wondering if anyone eats hot dogs? Is there a brand that is legal? Thanks, good luck to all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I think applegate farms has a turkey hot dog that looks pretty innocent. BUT I DON'T REMEMBER FOR SURE. Please don't take my word for it - check it out first. To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 6:51:08 PMSubject: hot dogs Hi,I know most processed foods are off limits. But I am wondering if anyone eats hot dogs? Is there a brand that is legal?Thanks, good luck to all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I think applegate farms has a turkey hot dog that looks pretty innocent. BUT I DON'T REMEMBER FOR SURE. Please don't take my word for it - check it out first. To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 6:51:08 PMSubject: hot dogs Hi,I know most processed foods are off limits. But I am wondering if anyone eats hot dogs? Is there a brand that is legal?Thanks, good luck to all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I think applegate farms has a turkey hot dog that looks pretty innocent. BUT I DON'T REMEMBER FOR SURE. Please don't take my word for it - check it out first. To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 6:51:08 PMSubject: hot dogs Hi,I know most processed foods are off limits. But I am wondering if anyone eats hot dogs? Is there a brand that is legal?Thanks, good luck to all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 NO they are NOT!!!! they have anti-caking agents - the costco ones I'm sure are not legal as well- none out there - Marilyn hs posted ger recipe many times or maybe breakfast sausgaes would cut it??? they're at scdrecipe..com I think eileen 20 months scd > > I think applegate farms has a turkey hot dog that looks pretty innocent. BUT I DON'T REMEMBER FOR SURE. Please don't take my word for it - check it out first. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: rainierifire3 > To: BTVC-SCD > Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 6:51:08 PM > Subject: hot dogs > > > Hi, > I know most processed foods are off limits. But I am wondering if anyone eats hot dogs? Is there a brand that is legal? > > Thanks, good luck to all > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 > Hi,> I know most processed foods are off limits. But I am wondering if anyone > eats hot dogs? Is there a brand that is legal?>> Thanks, good luck to all>I periodically use uncured all-beef hot dogs made by Applegate Farms (they also have turkey hot dogs, which I personally don't like). They contain no nitrates, nitrites, casein, gluten, sugar. They do contain beef, water, sea salt, and less than 2% of the following: celery juice, sodium lactate from beets, lactic acid starter culture (not from milk), onion powder, paprika, garlic powder, other spices. I don't know what the "other spices" are, but I can eat these with no problems; even so, I'd consider them a fairly advanced food. They are expensive, however.n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 not to be a pest but they're not an advanced food - they're illegal -so glad you can go there, but others shouldn't introduce illegals till 1 year symptom free i spent 1 month of loose bm each morning -and still haven't gotten back to great like i was before them - I had many conversations etc with applegate - their spices come to them done already so who knows what's going on there and plus the anti-caking stuff for sure is illegal - I don't recommend them - wanted them to be legal so bad - but no go :-( eileen 20 months scd > > > Hi, > > I know most processed foods are off limits. But I am wondering if anyone > > eats hot dogs? Is there a brand that is legal? > > > > Thanks, good luck to all > > > > I periodically use uncured all-beef hot dogs made by Applegate Farms (they > also have turkey hot dogs, which I personally don't like). > They contain no nitrates, nitrites, casein, gluten, sugar. They do contain > beef, water, sea salt, and less than 2% of the following: celery juice, > sodium lactate from beets, lactic acid starter culture (not from milk), > onion powder, paprika, garlic powder, other spices. I don't know what the > " other spices " are, but I can eat these with no problems; even so, I'd > consider them a fairly advanced food. They are expensive, however. > > n > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 not to be a pest but they're not an advanced food - they're illegal -so glad you can go there, but others shouldn't introduce illegals till 1 year symptom free i spent 1 month of loose bm each morning -and still haven't gotten back to great like i was before them - I had many conversations etc with applegate - their spices come to them done already so who knows what's going on there and plus the anti-caking stuff for sure is illegal - I don't recommend them - wanted them to be legal so bad - but no go :-( eileen 20 months scd > > > Hi, > > I know most processed foods are off limits. But I am wondering if anyone > > eats hot dogs? Is there a brand that is legal? > > > > Thanks, good luck to all > > > > I periodically use uncured all-beef hot dogs made by Applegate Farms (they > also have turkey hot dogs, which I personally don't like). > They contain no nitrates, nitrites, casein, gluten, sugar. They do contain > beef, water, sea salt, and less than 2% of the following: celery juice, > sodium lactate from beets, lactic acid starter culture (not from milk), > onion powder, paprika, garlic powder, other spices. I don't know what the > " other spices " are, but I can eat these with no problems; even so, I'd > consider them a fairly advanced food. They are expensive, however. > > n > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 not to be a pest but they're not an advanced food - they're illegal -so glad you can go there, but others shouldn't introduce illegals till 1 year symptom free i spent 1 month of loose bm each morning -and still haven't gotten back to great like i was before them - I had many conversations etc with applegate - their spices come to them done already so who knows what's going on there and plus the anti-caking stuff for sure is illegal - I don't recommend them - wanted them to be legal so bad - but no go :-( eileen 20 months scd > > > Hi, > > I know most processed foods are off limits. But I am wondering if anyone > > eats hot dogs? Is there a brand that is legal? > > > > Thanks, good luck to all > > > > I periodically use uncured all-beef hot dogs made by Applegate Farms (they > also have turkey hot dogs, which I personally don't like). > They contain no nitrates, nitrites, casein, gluten, sugar. They do contain > beef, water, sea salt, and less than 2% of the following: celery juice, > sodium lactate from beets, lactic acid starter culture (not from milk), > onion powder, paprika, garlic powder, other spices. I don't know what the > " other spices " are, but I can eat these with no problems; even so, I'd > consider them a fairly advanced food. They are expensive, however. > > n > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 >>I don't know what the "other spices" are Exactly. You don't know what the other spices are. Many letters have gone out to Applegate, but their spices cannot be verified. For anyone new or starting the diet, please be aware that all Applegate hot dogs are illegal. Diane D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 >>I don't know what the "other spices" are Exactly. You don't know what the other spices are. Many letters have gone out to Applegate, but their spices cannot be verified. For anyone new or starting the diet, please be aware that all Applegate hot dogs are illegal. Diane D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 >>I don't know what the "other spices" are Exactly. You don't know what the other spices are. Many letters have gone out to Applegate, but their spices cannot be verified. For anyone new or starting the diet, please be aware that all Applegate hot dogs are illegal. Diane D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 >>> I don't know what the "other spices" are>> Exactly. You don't know what the other spices are.> Many letters have gone out to Applegate, but their spices cannot> be verified. For anyone new or starting the diet, please be aware that> all Applegate hot dogs are illegal.>> Diane D.>Not everybody is in the beginning stages of the diet, and some of us have made very quick progress. There may be absolutely nothing "offensive" in Applegate hot dogs. Then again, the spices might be an issue for some people. They aren't for me, which either means that there isn't actually anything illegal in them or that if there is, it doesn't affect me. There comes a point when adults have to use common sense and relate it to one's own body and situtation. Somebody asked about hot dogs. I didn't "recommend" them; I described my positive experience. Others can surely decide whether that's for them or not. n -- I blog at www.ReformedRevelry.wordpress.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 >>> I don't know what the "other spices" are>> Exactly. You don't know what the other spices are.> Many letters have gone out to Applegate, but their spices cannot> be verified. For anyone new or starting the diet, please be aware that> all Applegate hot dogs are illegal.>> Diane D.>Not everybody is in the beginning stages of the diet, and some of us have made very quick progress. There may be absolutely nothing "offensive" in Applegate hot dogs. Then again, the spices might be an issue for some people. They aren't for me, which either means that there isn't actually anything illegal in them or that if there is, it doesn't affect me. There comes a point when adults have to use common sense and relate it to one's own body and situtation. Somebody asked about hot dogs. I didn't "recommend" them; I described my positive experience. Others can surely decide whether that's for them or not. n -- I blog at www.ReformedRevelry.wordpress.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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