Re: Question on AK update!

[Guest guest]

Did you or anyone else on the list that has had accupuncture ever experience any soreness/bruised feelings?Yep =) I think the more it hurts though, the more you needed it! Godspeed!Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO illegal)

[Guest guest]

Did you or anyone else on the list that has had accupuncture ever experience any soreness/bruised feelings?Yep =) I think the more it hurts though, the more you needed it! Godspeed!Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO illegal)

[Guest guest]

Did you or anyone else on the list that has had accupuncture ever experience any soreness/bruised feelings?Yep =) I think the more it hurts though, the more you needed it! Godspeed!Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO illegal)

[Guest guest]

oh I can answer that !! LOL - I asked her to do my adrenals as I have adrenal

fatigue and my 1st session and todays 2nd session on the front of my body, were

maybe a lil pinch here there - sorest in belly but then OUCH!!!!! 2 needles in

the left kidney hurt so bad but then it went to a dull pain right away and feels

a lil bruised now - guess I have more trouble than I thought there!!

eileen

>

> > Did you or anyone else on the list that has had accupuncture ever

> > experience any soreness/bruised feelings?

>

>

> Yep =) I think the more it hurts though, the more you needed it!

>

> Godspeed!

> Alyssa 15 yo

> UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO

> illegal)

>

[Guest guest]

At 04:20 PM 9/30/2009, you wrote:

Yep =) I think the more it hurts

though, the more you needed it!

Not necessarily. My acupuncturist has a positively fiendish ability to

find precisely the spots which caused me to gasp at the time (not

hurting, but a REACTION!), at which point, he asks cheerfully,

" Sensitive? "

But I've never hurt afterwards.

And the two hour treatment he gave me the morning of my cancer surgery,

to support heart and lungs, and aid in pain relief afterwards, didn't

hurt at all.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

At 04:20 PM 9/30/2009, you wrote:

Yep =) I think the more it hurts

though, the more you needed it!

Not necessarily. My acupuncturist has a positively fiendish ability to

find precisely the spots which caused me to gasp at the time (not

hurting, but a REACTION!), at which point, he asks cheerfully,

" Sensitive? "

But I've never hurt afterwards.

And the two hour treatment he gave me the morning of my cancer surgery,

to support heart and lungs, and aid in pain relief afterwards, didn't

hurt at all.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

At 04:20 PM 9/30/2009, you wrote:

Yep =) I think the more it hurts

though, the more you needed it!

Not necessarily. My acupuncturist has a positively fiendish ability to

find precisely the spots which caused me to gasp at the time (not

hurting, but a REACTION!), at which point, he asks cheerfully,

" Sensitive? "

But I've never hurt afterwards.

And the two hour treatment he gave me the morning of my cancer surgery,

to support heart and lungs, and aid in pain relief afterwards, didn't

hurt at all.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

It really depends on the style of acupuncture.. Traditional Chinese, Korean,

Japanese are they using Moxa/heating?

There is also personal style and today there are Western points.

More in the hands? More in the ears? Points on the bottom of the foot OMG

hurt!

Some acu's use more needles, some use less needles.

Certain points can be very sensitive and the turning of the needle to

increase/reduce or stimulate Chi can be sensitive.

Sometimes if the needles hurt after the appt the acupuncturist might of hit a

nerve (this is rare).. Other times it can feel like a deep bruise due to the

needle being deep from twisting. In general though, no the points should not

hurt after the treatment. I have found that in my experience Western docs

(American's) that practice acupuncture like the Chinese Torture feeling, meaning

they usually have a style that involves some discomfort POST treatment.

Sometimes my abdomen feels a bit sore after the acu and a deep I feel bruising

like feeling. I attribute this to being extra sensitive in my abdominal area.

It is super important to communicate this to your acu. If this is something

that is a concern that you don't feel you can work through it may mean that that

specific acu's style does not suit you.

Sometimes acu's can change their MO but in general if you feel a lot of stress

during the appt (I had an acu that was so painful I was like a ball of tension

during treatments that I came to the conclusion one day the stress is really

outweighing the benefit.)

Jodi

[Guest guest]

It really depends on the style of acupuncture.. Traditional Chinese, Korean,

Japanese are they using Moxa/heating?

There is also personal style and today there are Western points.

More in the hands? More in the ears? Points on the bottom of the foot OMG

hurt!

Some acu's use more needles, some use less needles.

Certain points can be very sensitive and the turning of the needle to

increase/reduce or stimulate Chi can be sensitive.

Sometimes if the needles hurt after the appt the acupuncturist might of hit a

nerve (this is rare).. Other times it can feel like a deep bruise due to the

needle being deep from twisting. In general though, no the points should not

hurt after the treatment. I have found that in my experience Western docs

(American's) that practice acupuncture like the Chinese Torture feeling, meaning

they usually have a style that involves some discomfort POST treatment.

Sometimes my abdomen feels a bit sore after the acu and a deep I feel bruising

like feeling. I attribute this to being extra sensitive in my abdominal area.

It is super important to communicate this to your acu. If this is something

that is a concern that you don't feel you can work through it may mean that that

specific acu's style does not suit you.

Sometimes acu's can change their MO but in general if you feel a lot of stress

during the appt (I had an acu that was so painful I was like a ball of tension

during treatments that I came to the conclusion one day the stress is really

outweighing the benefit.)

Jodi

[Guest guest]

It really depends on the style of acupuncture.. Traditional Chinese, Korean,

Japanese are they using Moxa/heating?

There is also personal style and today there are Western points.

More in the hands? More in the ears? Points on the bottom of the foot OMG

hurt!

Some acu's use more needles, some use less needles.

Certain points can be very sensitive and the turning of the needle to

increase/reduce or stimulate Chi can be sensitive.

Sometimes if the needles hurt after the appt the acupuncturist might of hit a

nerve (this is rare).. Other times it can feel like a deep bruise due to the

needle being deep from twisting. In general though, no the points should not

hurt after the treatment. I have found that in my experience Western docs

(American's) that practice acupuncture like the Chinese Torture feeling, meaning

they usually have a style that involves some discomfort POST treatment.

Sometimes my abdomen feels a bit sore after the acu and a deep I feel bruising

like feeling. I attribute this to being extra sensitive in my abdominal area.

It is super important to communicate this to your acu. If this is something

that is a concern that you don't feel you can work through it may mean that that

specific acu's style does not suit you.

Sometimes acu's can change their MO but in general if you feel a lot of stress

during the appt (I had an acu that was so painful I was like a ball of tension

during treatments that I came to the conclusion one day the stress is really

outweighing the benefit.)

Jodi

[Guest guest]

I think the more it hurts though, the more you needed it!

No, I don't think so, not normally. But I guess it depends on what

you mean by " hurts " . Most locations I hardly even notice the needles

going in. Once in awhile I do. My acupuncturist always asks " Is

this OK? " after she inserts a needle, and I went for about a year

before I ever said " No " . An occasional one does hurt a bit but it

usually calms down after 20 seconds or so. The really occasional one

that really hurts I have her take out and put in a different place.

One good thing about acupuncture is that there are many locations

that can be used for the same treatment so we shouldn't have to

suffer. Now, there is one spot on my wrist insides that is an

absolute screamy button for me. Instant tears running down my

cheeks. So, we never use that one! I have had some occasions,

especially at first, when things didn't hurt but I felt something,

like energy maybe, pulsing between two needles in different parts of

hte body. She says this is good. But like I say, this doesn't hurt,

it's just sort of interesting.

[Guest guest]

I think the more it hurts though, the more you needed it!

No, I don't think so, not normally. But I guess it depends on what

you mean by " hurts " . Most locations I hardly even notice the needles

going in. Once in awhile I do. My acupuncturist always asks " Is

this OK? " after she inserts a needle, and I went for about a year

before I ever said " No " . An occasional one does hurt a bit but it

usually calms down after 20 seconds or so. The really occasional one

that really hurts I have her take out and put in a different place.

One good thing about acupuncture is that there are many locations

that can be used for the same treatment so we shouldn't have to

suffer. Now, there is one spot on my wrist insides that is an

absolute screamy button for me. Instant tears running down my

cheeks. So, we never use that one! I have had some occasions,

especially at first, when things didn't hurt but I felt something,

like energy maybe, pulsing between two needles in different parts of

hte body. She says this is good. But like I say, this doesn't hurt,

it's just sort of interesting.

[Guest guest]

I think the more it hurts though, the more you needed it!

No, I don't think so, not normally. But I guess it depends on what

you mean by " hurts " . Most locations I hardly even notice the needles

going in. Once in awhile I do. My acupuncturist always asks " Is

this OK? " after she inserts a needle, and I went for about a year

before I ever said " No " . An occasional one does hurt a bit but it

usually calms down after 20 seconds or so. The really occasional one

that really hurts I have her take out and put in a different place.

One good thing about acupuncture is that there are many locations

that can be used for the same treatment so we shouldn't have to

suffer. Now, there is one spot on my wrist insides that is an

absolute screamy button for me. Instant tears running down my

cheeks. So, we never use that one! I have had some occasions,

especially at first, when things didn't hurt but I felt something,

like energy maybe, pulsing between two needles in different parts of

hte body. She says this is good. But like I say, this doesn't hurt,

it's just sort of interesting.

[Guest guest]

i don't know -mine hurt in 2 spots behind my left kidney(i have adrenal

fatigue) and ouch!! for about 20 seconds then uncomfy for a bit and she said

" you're kidney is WEAK - so i wherever you need it will hurt more??? i'm new to

this though and prefer no pain!! lol

eileen

>

> I think the more it hurts though, the more you needed it!

>

>

> No, I don't think so, not normally. But I guess it depends on what

> you mean by " hurts " . Most locations I hardly even notice the needles

> going in. Once in awhile I do. My acupuncturist always asks " Is

> this OK? " after she inserts a needle, and I went for about a year

> before I ever said " No " . An occasional one does hurt a bit but it

> usually calms down after 20 seconds or so. The really occasional one

> that really hurts I have her take out and put in a different place.

> One good thing about acupuncture is that there are many locations

> that can be used for the same treatment so we shouldn't have to

> suffer. Now, there is one spot on my wrist insides that is an

> absolute screamy button for me. Instant tears running down my

> cheeks. So, we never use that one! I have had some occasions,

> especially at first, when things didn't hurt but I felt something,

> like energy maybe, pulsing between two needles in different parts of

> hte body. She says this is good. But like I say, this doesn't hurt,

> it's just sort of interesting.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

i don't know -mine hurt in 2 spots behind my left kidney(i have adrenal

fatigue) and ouch!! for about 20 seconds then uncomfy for a bit and she said

" you're kidney is WEAK - so i wherever you need it will hurt more??? i'm new to

this though and prefer no pain!! lol

eileen

>

> I think the more it hurts though, the more you needed it!

>

>

> No, I don't think so, not normally. But I guess it depends on what

> you mean by " hurts " . Most locations I hardly even notice the needles

> going in. Once in awhile I do. My acupuncturist always asks " Is

> this OK? " after she inserts a needle, and I went for about a year

> before I ever said " No " . An occasional one does hurt a bit but it

> usually calms down after 20 seconds or so. The really occasional one

> that really hurts I have her take out and put in a different place.

> One good thing about acupuncture is that there are many locations

> that can be used for the same treatment so we shouldn't have to

> suffer. Now, there is one spot on my wrist insides that is an

> absolute screamy button for me. Instant tears running down my

> cheeks. So, we never use that one! I have had some occasions,

> especially at first, when things didn't hurt but I felt something,

> like energy maybe, pulsing between two needles in different parts of

> hte body. She says this is good. But like I say, this doesn't hurt,

> it's just sort of interesting.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

i don't know -mine hurt in 2 spots behind my left kidney(i have adrenal

fatigue) and ouch!! for about 20 seconds then uncomfy for a bit and she said

" you're kidney is WEAK - so i wherever you need it will hurt more??? i'm new to

this though and prefer no pain!! lol

eileen

>

> I think the more it hurts though, the more you needed it!

>

>

> No, I don't think so, not normally. But I guess it depends on what

> you mean by " hurts " . Most locations I hardly even notice the needles

> going in. Once in awhile I do. My acupuncturist always asks " Is

> this OK? " after she inserts a needle, and I went for about a year

> before I ever said " No " . An occasional one does hurt a bit but it

> usually calms down after 20 seconds or so. The really occasional one

> that really hurts I have her take out and put in a different place.

> One good thing about acupuncture is that there are many locations

> that can be used for the same treatment so we shouldn't have to

> suffer. Now, there is one spot on my wrist insides that is an

> absolute screamy button for me. Instant tears running down my

> cheeks. So, we never use that one! I have had some occasions,

> especially at first, when things didn't hurt but I felt something,

> like energy maybe, pulsing between two needles in different parts of

> hte body. She says this is good. But like I say, this doesn't hurt,

> it's just sort of interesting.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Eileen,

No.. it does not work this way that if it hurts you need it more.

Some places are just super sensitive.

Also understand that there are meridians going through your whole body.. so like

the bottom of the feet have major kidney meridians and boy are those

uncomfortable going in for me. I am kidney yang deficient. Both my alternative

doc and acu say my problems stem from weak kidney energy (remember we are

talking about energy flow here, right?)

Sometimes a place can be sore- but this does not mean you need it more.

Again, it depends on the style of acupuncture and since I presume you go to a

Westerner (in general) they are more into having the patient feel the pain- this

is just a modality within acupuncture.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Eileen,

No.. it does not work this way that if it hurts you need it more.

Some places are just super sensitive.

Also understand that there are meridians going through your whole body.. so like

the bottom of the feet have major kidney meridians and boy are those

uncomfortable going in for me. I am kidney yang deficient. Both my alternative

doc and acu say my problems stem from weak kidney energy (remember we are

talking about energy flow here, right?)

Sometimes a place can be sore- but this does not mean you need it more.

Again, it depends on the style of acupuncture and since I presume you go to a

Westerner (in general) they are more into having the patient feel the pain- this

is just a modality within acupuncture.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Eileen,

No.. it does not work this way that if it hurts you need it more.

Some places are just super sensitive.

Also understand that there are meridians going through your whole body.. so like

the bottom of the feet have major kidney meridians and boy are those

uncomfortable going in for me. I am kidney yang deficient. Both my alternative

doc and acu say my problems stem from weak kidney energy (remember we are

talking about energy flow here, right?)

Sometimes a place can be sore- but this does not mean you need it more.

Again, it depends on the style of acupuncture and since I presume you go to a

Westerner (in general) they are more into having the patient feel the pain- this

is just a modality within acupuncture.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

she is a doc from China - not a doc here though - but seems very weird that the

area all around was ok except where i've got an issue??? sensitive because i've

got issues there maybe?? just like the left side of the belly ??? - who knows

jsut hope it works - LOL - next will be heavy metal testing - need to kill the

yeast and be done with this nonsense!!! - only took 36 years of massive sugar to

cause it -why should it leave quickly ?? -LOL

eileen

>

>

> Eileen,

>

> No.. it does not work this way that if it hurts you need it more.

> Some places are just super sensitive.

> Also understand that there are meridians going through your whole body.. so

like the bottom of the feet have major kidney meridians and boy are those

uncomfortable going in for me. I am kidney yang deficient. Both my alternative

doc and acu say my problems stem from weak kidney energy (remember we are

talking about energy flow here, right?)

>

> Sometimes a place can be sore- but this does not mean you need it more.

>

> Again, it depends on the style of acupuncture and since I presume you go to a

Westerner (in general) they are more into having the patient feel the pain- this

is just a modality within acupuncture.

>

> Jodi

>

[Guest guest]

The only time I had pain or bruising with acupuncture was when I suggested that

he use the needles closer to the area that was bothering me (elbow tendonitis);

when he did it his regular way it never really hurt -- I should have trusted him

more!

Debbie T

>

> > Did you or anyone else on the list that has had accupuncture ever

> > experience any soreness/bruised feelings?

>

>

> Yep =) I think the more it hurts though, the more you needed it!

>

> Godspeed!

> Alyssa 15 yo

> UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO

> illegal)

>

[Guest guest]

The only time I had pain or bruising with acupuncture was when I suggested that

he use the needles closer to the area that was bothering me (elbow tendonitis);

when he did it his regular way it never really hurt -- I should have trusted him

more!

Debbie T

>

> > Did you or anyone else on the list that has had accupuncture ever

> > experience any soreness/bruised feelings?

>

>

> Yep =) I think the more it hurts though, the more you needed it!

>

> Godspeed!

> Alyssa 15 yo

> UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO

> illegal)

>

[Guest guest]

The only time I had pain or bruising with acupuncture was when I suggested that

he use the needles closer to the area that was bothering me (elbow tendonitis);

when he did it his regular way it never really hurt -- I should have trusted him

more!

Debbie T

>

> > Did you or anyone else on the list that has had accupuncture ever

> > experience any soreness/bruised feelings?

>

>

> Yep =) I think the more it hurts though, the more you needed it!

>

> Godspeed!

> Alyssa 15 yo

> UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO

> illegal)

>

[Guest guest]

i got a lil belly bruise and a spot of blood on forehead 1st time

eileen

> >

> > > Did you or anyone else on the list that has had accupuncture ever

> > > experience any soreness/bruised feelings?

> >

> >

> > Yep =) I think the more it hurts though, the more you needed it!

> >

> > Godspeed!

> > Alyssa 15 yo

> > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> > SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> > No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO

> > illegal)

> >

>

[Guest guest]

i got a lil belly bruise and a spot of blood on forehead 1st time

eileen

> >

> > > Did you or anyone else on the list that has had accupuncture ever

> > > experience any soreness/bruised feelings?

> >

> >

> > Yep =) I think the more it hurts though, the more you needed it!

> >

> > Godspeed!

> > Alyssa 15 yo

> > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> > SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> > No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO

> > illegal)

> >

>