Re: Doing the diet for moral support

[Guest guest]

Liz,

Well, I don't have any kind of gut issues per se...no urgency, no blood, no C or

D, but I do have yeast and always have, as long as I can remember. Other than

that I had no reason to do either GFCF or SCD but I did both because it was

easier..time wise and easier to get my kids to eat new things if that was all

that was available. My DH has benefited tremendously from it too, and he did

have GI problems, undiagnosed.

I have had times where I thought it ironic that I was well on a normal American

diet and SCD and GFCF gave me issues..then I figured out it was two things...I

eat lots more fruit and veggies now (though I was no slouch before)and sometimes

too much (I ate three handfuls of prunes today, bad idea but tomorrow is

shopping day and what is left in the house that the kids can eat is reserved for

them and I eat around the edges, lol) and I have had a few die offs. Some of

the latter were subtle and I only realized what they were in hindsight. You

might be experiencing the same thing. The stomachaches were the clincher for

me. I NEVER have had any kind of stomach pain so when that happened

occasionally with a few other symptoms my brain clicked...DIE OFF!! duh. I

figured the diet would have no effect on me but turns out I needed it too and

the bad bugs in my system were none too pleased.

Initially I lost over 20 pounds (just had a baby, needed to lose it) but gained

a few back eating nut muffins. When we chucked the nut muffins for my oldest,

who couldn't tolerate them my weight went back down again. I am LOVING SCD as a

result.

:)Chrissy

>

> I'm wondering if any of you out there doing this diet to help a child or

spouse, not because you have IBD yourself, have had symptoms that started AFTER

you began the SCD. I'll explain what I mean...

>

> I started the SCD in mid-August with my son, to give him moral support. I was

already gluten free, soy free and ate very little dairy because I have had

health problems in the past, including a diagnosis of " colitis " . I also had

Candida that took a while to clear up, but have not had any problems for years.

I " probably " have Celiac Disease, but I'd been gluten free for so long by the

time I figured that out that the doctor told me just to keep doing what I was

doing since my health was so good. I've never been a big sugar eater and am not

significantly overweight. So, the first week or so my digestive system started

acting up a bit - some D and some urgency that calmed down after a while. Now,

6-7 weeks into it, I'm having 3-4 trips a day, some VERY urgent loose stools

(not quite D) and stomach aches that come and go and can get very severe. I've

also gained a couple of pounds =( .

>

> I truly have not " cheated " , although I have eaten a few advanced foods while

my son was not around - things like raw fruit, a bit of coconut flour and whole

nuts, but not much else.

>

> Has anyone else had this experience? My son is doing great and has no

complaints and is definitely improving with all of his symptoms. Why am I

having issues?

>

> Thanks,

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

Liz,

Well, I don't have any kind of gut issues per se...no urgency, no blood, no C or

D, but I do have yeast and always have, as long as I can remember. Other than

that I had no reason to do either GFCF or SCD but I did both because it was

easier..time wise and easier to get my kids to eat new things if that was all

that was available. My DH has benefited tremendously from it too, and he did

have GI problems, undiagnosed.

I have had times where I thought it ironic that I was well on a normal American

diet and SCD and GFCF gave me issues..then I figured out it was two things...I

eat lots more fruit and veggies now (though I was no slouch before)and sometimes

too much (I ate three handfuls of prunes today, bad idea but tomorrow is

shopping day and what is left in the house that the kids can eat is reserved for

them and I eat around the edges, lol) and I have had a few die offs. Some of

the latter were subtle and I only realized what they were in hindsight. You

might be experiencing the same thing. The stomachaches were the clincher for

me. I NEVER have had any kind of stomach pain so when that happened

occasionally with a few other symptoms my brain clicked...DIE OFF!! duh. I

figured the diet would have no effect on me but turns out I needed it too and

the bad bugs in my system were none too pleased.

Initially I lost over 20 pounds (just had a baby, needed to lose it) but gained

a few back eating nut muffins. When we chucked the nut muffins for my oldest,

who couldn't tolerate them my weight went back down again. I am LOVING SCD as a

result.

:)Chrissy

>

> I'm wondering if any of you out there doing this diet to help a child or

spouse, not because you have IBD yourself, have had symptoms that started AFTER

you began the SCD. I'll explain what I mean...

>

> I started the SCD in mid-August with my son, to give him moral support. I was

already gluten free, soy free and ate very little dairy because I have had

health problems in the past, including a diagnosis of " colitis " . I also had

Candida that took a while to clear up, but have not had any problems for years.

I " probably " have Celiac Disease, but I'd been gluten free for so long by the

time I figured that out that the doctor told me just to keep doing what I was

doing since my health was so good. I've never been a big sugar eater and am not

significantly overweight. So, the first week or so my digestive system started

acting up a bit - some D and some urgency that calmed down after a while. Now,

6-7 weeks into it, I'm having 3-4 trips a day, some VERY urgent loose stools

(not quite D) and stomach aches that come and go and can get very severe. I've

also gained a couple of pounds =( .

>

> I truly have not " cheated " , although I have eaten a few advanced foods while

my son was not around - things like raw fruit, a bit of coconut flour and whole

nuts, but not much else.

>

> Has anyone else had this experience? My son is doing great and has no

complaints and is definitely improving with all of his symptoms. Why am I

having issues?

>

> Thanks,

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

That's interesting, but I wonder if it's because you have changed your diet, for

instance many people get travellers GI problems from a change in food, diet,

water and so on.

It takes a while to adjust to SCD in the beginning for everyone.

PJ

>

> I'm wondering if any of you out there doing this diet to help a child or

spouse, not because you have IBD yourself, have had symptoms that started AFTER

you began the SCD. I'll explain what I mean...

>

> I started the SCD in mid-August with my son, to give him moral support. I was

already gluten free, soy free and ate very little dairy because I have had

health problems in the past, including a diagnosis of " colitis " . I also had

Candida that took a while to clear up, but have not had any problems for years.

I " probably " have Celiac Disease, but I'd been gluten free for so long by the

time I figured that out that the doctor told me just to keep doing what I was

doing since my health was so good. I've never been a big sugar eater and am not

significantly overweight. So, the first week or so my digestive system started

acting up a bit - some D and some urgency that calmed down after a while. Now,

6-7 weeks into it, I'm having 3-4 trips a day, some VERY urgent loose stools

(not quite D) and stomach aches that come and go and can get very severe. I've

also gained a couple of pounds =( .

>

> I truly have not " cheated " , although I have eaten a few advanced foods while

my son was not around - things like raw fruit, a bit of coconut flour and whole

nuts, but not much else.

>

> Has anyone else had this experience? My son is doing great and has no

complaints and is definitely improving with all of his symptoms. Why am I

having issues?

>

> Thanks,

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

That's interesting, but I wonder if it's because you have changed your diet, for

instance many people get travellers GI problems from a change in food, diet,

water and so on.

It takes a while to adjust to SCD in the beginning for everyone.

PJ

>

> I'm wondering if any of you out there doing this diet to help a child or

spouse, not because you have IBD yourself, have had symptoms that started AFTER

you began the SCD. I'll explain what I mean...

>

> I started the SCD in mid-August with my son, to give him moral support. I was

already gluten free, soy free and ate very little dairy because I have had

health problems in the past, including a diagnosis of " colitis " . I also had

Candida that took a while to clear up, but have not had any problems for years.

I " probably " have Celiac Disease, but I'd been gluten free for so long by the

time I figured that out that the doctor told me just to keep doing what I was

doing since my health was so good. I've never been a big sugar eater and am not

significantly overweight. So, the first week or so my digestive system started

acting up a bit - some D and some urgency that calmed down after a while. Now,

6-7 weeks into it, I'm having 3-4 trips a day, some VERY urgent loose stools

(not quite D) and stomach aches that come and go and can get very severe. I've

also gained a couple of pounds =( .

>

> I truly have not " cheated " , although I have eaten a few advanced foods while

my son was not around - things like raw fruit, a bit of coconut flour and whole

nuts, but not much else.

>

> Has anyone else had this experience? My son is doing great and has no

complaints and is definitely improving with all of his symptoms. Why am I

having issues?

>

> Thanks,

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

That's interesting, but I wonder if it's because you have changed your diet, for

instance many people get travellers GI problems from a change in food, diet,

water and so on.

It takes a while to adjust to SCD in the beginning for everyone.

PJ

>

> I'm wondering if any of you out there doing this diet to help a child or

spouse, not because you have IBD yourself, have had symptoms that started AFTER

you began the SCD. I'll explain what I mean...

>

> I started the SCD in mid-August with my son, to give him moral support. I was

already gluten free, soy free and ate very little dairy because I have had

health problems in the past, including a diagnosis of " colitis " . I also had

Candida that took a while to clear up, but have not had any problems for years.

I " probably " have Celiac Disease, but I'd been gluten free for so long by the

time I figured that out that the doctor told me just to keep doing what I was

doing since my health was so good. I've never been a big sugar eater and am not

significantly overweight. So, the first week or so my digestive system started

acting up a bit - some D and some urgency that calmed down after a while. Now,

6-7 weeks into it, I'm having 3-4 trips a day, some VERY urgent loose stools

(not quite D) and stomach aches that come and go and can get very severe. I've

also gained a couple of pounds =( .

>

> I truly have not " cheated " , although I have eaten a few advanced foods while

my son was not around - things like raw fruit, a bit of coconut flour and whole

nuts, but not much else.

>

> Has anyone else had this experience? My son is doing great and has no

complaints and is definitely improving with all of his symptoms. Why am I

having issues?

>

> Thanks,

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

>

> That's interesting, but I wonder if it's because you have changed your diet,

for instance many people get travellers GI problems from a change in food, diet,

water and so on.

>

> It takes a while to adjust to SCD in the beginning for everyone.

>

My diet hasn't changed THAT much, though. I'm not eating gluten free baked

goods, I'm eating almond butter blondies and pecan souffle bread, but not in

excess. This is what's weird. I've always eaten lots of fruit and veggies and

not much junk food. I think I must have some yeast still in there and I'm

having a prolonged die-off. I am eating less sugar (like, none) than I was

before and probably less fruit, since my son can't have the variety we're used

to.

Thanks,

Liz

[Guest guest]

>

> That's interesting, but I wonder if it's because you have changed your diet,

for instance many people get travellers GI problems from a change in food, diet,

water and so on.

>

> It takes a while to adjust to SCD in the beginning for everyone.

>

My diet hasn't changed THAT much, though. I'm not eating gluten free baked

goods, I'm eating almond butter blondies and pecan souffle bread, but not in

excess. This is what's weird. I've always eaten lots of fruit and veggies and

not much junk food. I think I must have some yeast still in there and I'm

having a prolonged die-off. I am eating less sugar (like, none) than I was

before and probably less fruit, since my son can't have the variety we're used

to.

Thanks,

Liz

[Guest guest]

>

> That's interesting, but I wonder if it's because you have changed your diet,

for instance many people get travellers GI problems from a change in food, diet,

water and so on.

>

> It takes a while to adjust to SCD in the beginning for everyone.

>

My diet hasn't changed THAT much, though. I'm not eating gluten free baked

goods, I'm eating almond butter blondies and pecan souffle bread, but not in

excess. This is what's weird. I've always eaten lots of fruit and veggies and

not much junk food. I think I must have some yeast still in there and I'm

having a prolonged die-off. I am eating less sugar (like, none) than I was

before and probably less fruit, since my son can't have the variety we're used

to.

Thanks,

Liz

[Guest guest]

Also, the diet has a way of " unmasking " things like

> food intolerances that you may not have recognized before. It

> would probably be a good idea to try and keep a food diary, and

> try to pinpoint any foods that may be problematic.

Thank you for the suggestion =). I think I know what my food intolerances are.

It would take a book to tell my whole story, but this isn't the right forum for

it. At one point, for a whole year, all I could eat was fish, rice, sunflower

seeds, some fruits and some vegetables. Nothing else. I slowly added foods

back over the course of a few years to where I could eat " everything " except

gluten, dairy, soy and eggs. I've been able to eat eggs for the past couple of

years now with no problems. No yogurt, because I can only do small amounts of

sheep or goat cheese.

My health has gone from horrible (arthritis so bad we were pricing electric

carts plus other issues) to fantastic - I teach PE and coach HS girls'

basketball and play along with them. I spent the last 13 years making sure that

I've taken care of myself so I would never be that sick again. Now, I want to

make sure that my son doesn't get that sick. He appears to have inherited my

tendency toward autoimmune problems. (To top it off, he's a redhead, and I've

been told that they have more digestive issues than other hair colors.)

I'll try to be patient and get through this - it's already better today. Go

figure - as soon as I ask about it it starts to disappear.

Thanks!

Liz

[Guest guest]

Liz, hey, if it is already better today and you know your intolerances than that

is more evidence for die off..which is no fun but is a beneficial thing in the

long run. So, maybe this is all for the best?

Chrissy

>

>

>

> Also, the diet has a way of " unmasking " things like

> > food intolerances that you may not have recognized before. It

> > would probably be a good idea to try and keep a food diary, and

> > try to pinpoint any foods that may be problematic.

>

> Thank you for the suggestion =). I think I know what my food intolerances are.

It would take a book to tell my whole story, but this isn't the right forum for

it. At one point, for a whole year, all I could eat was fish, rice, sunflower

seeds, some fruits and some vegetables. Nothing else. I slowly added foods

back over the course of a few years to where I could eat " everything " except

gluten, dairy, soy and eggs. I've been able to eat eggs for the past couple of

years now with no problems. No yogurt, because I can only do small amounts of

sheep or goat cheese.

>

> My health has gone from horrible (arthritis so bad we were pricing electric

carts plus other issues) to fantastic - I teach PE and coach HS girls'

basketball and play along with them. I spent the last 13 years making sure that

I've taken care of myself so I would never be that sick again. Now, I want to

make sure that my son doesn't get that sick. He appears to have inherited my

tendency toward autoimmune problems. (To top it off, he's a redhead, and I've

been told that they have more digestive issues than other hair colors.)

>

> I'll try to be patient and get through this - it's already better today. Go

figure - as soon as I ask about it it starts to disappear.

>

> Thanks!

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

Liz, hey, if it is already better today and you know your intolerances than that

is more evidence for die off..which is no fun but is a beneficial thing in the

long run. So, maybe this is all for the best?

Chrissy

>

>

>

> Also, the diet has a way of " unmasking " things like

> > food intolerances that you may not have recognized before. It

> > would probably be a good idea to try and keep a food diary, and

> > try to pinpoint any foods that may be problematic.

>

> Thank you for the suggestion =). I think I know what my food intolerances are.

It would take a book to tell my whole story, but this isn't the right forum for

it. At one point, for a whole year, all I could eat was fish, rice, sunflower

seeds, some fruits and some vegetables. Nothing else. I slowly added foods

back over the course of a few years to where I could eat " everything " except

gluten, dairy, soy and eggs. I've been able to eat eggs for the past couple of

years now with no problems. No yogurt, because I can only do small amounts of

sheep or goat cheese.

>

> My health has gone from horrible (arthritis so bad we were pricing electric

carts plus other issues) to fantastic - I teach PE and coach HS girls'

basketball and play along with them. I spent the last 13 years making sure that

I've taken care of myself so I would never be that sick again. Now, I want to

make sure that my son doesn't get that sick. He appears to have inherited my

tendency toward autoimmune problems. (To top it off, he's a redhead, and I've

been told that they have more digestive issues than other hair colors.)

>

> I'll try to be patient and get through this - it's already better today. Go

figure - as soon as I ask about it it starts to disappear.

>

> Thanks!

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

I'm definitely feeling better today - so I guess I had more bugs in there than I

thought! So much for all of the probiotics and stuff I've been taking for

years!

Liz

>

> Liz, hey, if it is already better today and you know your intolerances than

that is more evidence for die off..which is no fun but is a beneficial thing in

the long run. So, maybe this is all for the best?

>

> Chrissy

>

[Guest guest]

I'm definitely feeling better today - so I guess I had more bugs in there than I

thought! So much for all of the probiotics and stuff I've been taking for

years!

Liz

>

> Liz, hey, if it is already better today and you know your intolerances than

that is more evidence for die off..which is no fun but is a beneficial thing in

the long run. So, maybe this is all for the best?

>

> Chrissy

>