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Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 ACS > What is abdominal compartment syndrome? > > Lynn > Pre-op > 5'2 " > 230 lbs > bmi 42 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 This is a repeat of what I posted on 4/28/01 in response to this same question: Here is an excellent snippet on this. Dr Sugarman is a highly respected surgeon who does the RNY http://members.nbci.com/diabetesm/advances_in_surgical_management_.htm Dr. Harvey Sugerman[20] presented compelling data showing that morbidly obese people have what he refers to as " chronic abdominal compartment syndrome. " This syndrome of extreme central obesity leads to intra-abdominal hypertension and is associated with all of the familiar comorbidities of obesity such as hypertension, hypertriglyceridemia, type 2 diabetes, and atherosclerosis. In addition, his data suggest that the abnormal abdominal pressure leads to urinary incontinence, pseudotumor cerebri, gastroesophageal reflux disease, venous stasis, abdominal hernias, and obesity hypoventilation syndrome. In his studies, patients examined 34 months after gastric bypass surgery had lost 69% of their excess weight, with a decrease in BMI from 52 to 33. In addition, urinary bladder pressures and lumbar cerebrospinal fluid pressures had dramatically decreased. in Seattle DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 3/5/01 230# BMI 37.1 Dr Welker - OHSU ----- Original Message ----- > What is abdominal compartment syndrome? > > Lynn > Pre-op > 5'2 " > 230 lbs > bmi 42 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 This is a repeat of what I posted on 4/28/01 in response to this same question: Here is an excellent snippet on this. Dr Sugarman is a highly respected surgeon who does the RNY http://members.nbci.com/diabetesm/advances_in_surgical_management_.htm Dr. Harvey Sugerman[20] presented compelling data showing that morbidly obese people have what he refers to as " chronic abdominal compartment syndrome. " This syndrome of extreme central obesity leads to intra-abdominal hypertension and is associated with all of the familiar comorbidities of obesity such as hypertension, hypertriglyceridemia, type 2 diabetes, and atherosclerosis. In addition, his data suggest that the abnormal abdominal pressure leads to urinary incontinence, pseudotumor cerebri, gastroesophageal reflux disease, venous stasis, abdominal hernias, and obesity hypoventilation syndrome. In his studies, patients examined 34 months after gastric bypass surgery had lost 69% of their excess weight, with a decrease in BMI from 52 to 33. In addition, urinary bladder pressures and lumbar cerebrospinal fluid pressures had dramatically decreased. in Seattle DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 3/5/01 230# BMI 37.1 Dr Welker - OHSU ----- Original Message ----- > What is abdominal compartment syndrome? > > Lynn > Pre-op > 5'2 " > 230 lbs > bmi 42 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 This is a repeat of what I posted on 4/28/01 in response to this same question: Here is an excellent snippet on this. Dr Sugarman is a highly respected surgeon who does the RNY http://members.nbci.com/diabetesm/advances_in_surgical_management_.htm Dr. Harvey Sugerman[20] presented compelling data showing that morbidly obese people have what he refers to as " chronic abdominal compartment syndrome. " This syndrome of extreme central obesity leads to intra-abdominal hypertension and is associated with all of the familiar comorbidities of obesity such as hypertension, hypertriglyceridemia, type 2 diabetes, and atherosclerosis. In addition, his data suggest that the abnormal abdominal pressure leads to urinary incontinence, pseudotumor cerebri, gastroesophageal reflux disease, venous stasis, abdominal hernias, and obesity hypoventilation syndrome. In his studies, patients examined 34 months after gastric bypass surgery had lost 69% of their excess weight, with a decrease in BMI from 52 to 33. In addition, urinary bladder pressures and lumbar cerebrospinal fluid pressures had dramatically decreased. in Seattle DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 3/5/01 230# BMI 37.1 Dr Welker - OHSU ----- Original Message ----- > What is abdominal compartment syndrome? > > Lynn > Pre-op > 5'2 " > 230 lbs > bmi 42 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 Lynn: All morbidly obese people have excess fat in their gut around their organs. This puts pressure on the organs. This condition is called chronic abdominal compartment syndrome. The pressure that ordinarily exists on our organs would be a terrible shock to "normal" weight people. But we've become used to it as it has occurred bit by bit over the years. We can and do live with it. But when we have surgery two things can happen. First there can be a lot of swelling in the abdominal compartment. This can put much more pressure on our organs than normal. And we can also get fluid in the gut. This also puts more pressure on the organs and this is all called acute abdominal compartment syndrome. In its more severe occurrences it can be fatal. It can shut down the organs, one by one, ending with the heart. There are ways to treat this. As little "messing around" with the interior of the gut is strongly recommended. Strong anti-inflammatories can and should be used. Diuretics can be helpful. And for fluid in the gut draining can save a life. And the final and most important treatment is to lose some weight before surgery. My surgeon recommended 10% of my body weight before the operation. That amounted to about 35 pounds. I lost about 20 but put it back on before my surgery so got no benefit from the loss. I did get acute abdominal compartment syndrome and had to have fluid drained from my gut on an emergency basis. That was, however, the result of additional emergency surgery for leaks after my normal DS surgery and not the DS surgery itself. It's important to note that this syndrome in its acute form is not the norm. The surgeons are all very aware of the risks and treatments for it. So if your surgeon suggests you lose some weight before surgery, listen to him and try very hard to comply. While this is a risk, it is a manageable one. Regards. Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 244http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html ACS > What is abdominal compartment syndrome?> > Lynn> Pre-op> 5'2"> 230 lbs> bmi 42> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 Joe Thank you so much you are a very informative person. your answers in the past have helped me greatly. Lynn Pre-consult 5'2 " 230 lbs BMI 42 50 yrs old - -- In duodenalswitch@y..., " Joe Frost " wrote: > Lynn: > > All morbidly obese people have excess fat in their gut around their organs. This puts pressure on the organs. This condition is called chronic abdominal compartment syndrome. The pressure that ordinarily exists on our organs would be a terrible shock to " normal " weight people. But we've become used to it as it has occurred bit by bit over the years. We can and do live with it. But when we have surgery two things can happen. First there can be a lot of swelling in the abdominal compartment. This can put much more pressure on our organs than normal. And we can also get fluid in the gut. This also puts more pressure on the organs and this is all called acute abdominal compartment syndrome. In its more severe occurrences it can be fatal. It can shut down the organs, one by one, ending with the heart. > > There are ways to treat this. As little " messing around " with the interior of the gut is strongly recommended. Strong anti- inflammatories can and should be used. Diuretics can be helpful. And for fluid in the gut draining can save a life. And the final and most important treatment is to lose some weight before surgery. My surgeon recommended 10% of my body weight before the operation. That amounted to about 35 pounds. I lost about 20 but put it back on before my surgery so got no benefit from the loss. I did get acute abdominal compartment syndrome and had to have fluid drained from my gut on an emergency basis. That was, however, the result of additional emergency surgery for leaks after my normal DS surgery and not the DS surgery itself. > > It's important to note that this syndrome in its acute form is not the norm. The surgeons are all very aware of the risks and treatments for it. So if your surgeon suggests you lose some weight before surgery, listen to him and try very hard to comply. While this is a risk, it is a manageable one. > > Regards. > > Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart > San , TX, 60 years old > Surgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker > Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch > 340 starting weight, currently 244 > http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html > > > ACS > > > > What is abdominal compartment syndrome? > > > > Lynn > > Pre-op > > 5'2 " > > 230 lbs > > bmi 42 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 Joe Thank you so much you are a very informative person. your answers in the past have helped me greatly. Lynn Pre-consult 5'2 " 230 lbs BMI 42 50 yrs old - -- In duodenalswitch@y..., " Joe Frost " wrote: > Lynn: > > All morbidly obese people have excess fat in their gut around their organs. This puts pressure on the organs. This condition is called chronic abdominal compartment syndrome. The pressure that ordinarily exists on our organs would be a terrible shock to " normal " weight people. But we've become used to it as it has occurred bit by bit over the years. We can and do live with it. But when we have surgery two things can happen. First there can be a lot of swelling in the abdominal compartment. This can put much more pressure on our organs than normal. And we can also get fluid in the gut. This also puts more pressure on the organs and this is all called acute abdominal compartment syndrome. In its more severe occurrences it can be fatal. It can shut down the organs, one by one, ending with the heart. > > There are ways to treat this. As little " messing around " with the interior of the gut is strongly recommended. Strong anti- inflammatories can and should be used. Diuretics can be helpful. And for fluid in the gut draining can save a life. And the final and most important treatment is to lose some weight before surgery. My surgeon recommended 10% of my body weight before the operation. That amounted to about 35 pounds. I lost about 20 but put it back on before my surgery so got no benefit from the loss. I did get acute abdominal compartment syndrome and had to have fluid drained from my gut on an emergency basis. That was, however, the result of additional emergency surgery for leaks after my normal DS surgery and not the DS surgery itself. > > It's important to note that this syndrome in its acute form is not the norm. The surgeons are all very aware of the risks and treatments for it. So if your surgeon suggests you lose some weight before surgery, listen to him and try very hard to comply. While this is a risk, it is a manageable one. > > Regards. > > Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart > San , TX, 60 years old > Surgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker > Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch > 340 starting weight, currently 244 > http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html > > > ACS > > > > What is abdominal compartment syndrome? > > > > Lynn > > Pre-op > > 5'2 " > > 230 lbs > > bmi 42 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 Joe Thank you so much you are a very informative person. your answers in the past have helped me greatly. Lynn Pre-consult 5'2 " 230 lbs BMI 42 50 yrs old - -- In duodenalswitch@y..., " Joe Frost " wrote: > Lynn: > > All morbidly obese people have excess fat in their gut around their organs. This puts pressure on the organs. This condition is called chronic abdominal compartment syndrome. The pressure that ordinarily exists on our organs would be a terrible shock to " normal " weight people. But we've become used to it as it has occurred bit by bit over the years. We can and do live with it. But when we have surgery two things can happen. First there can be a lot of swelling in the abdominal compartment. This can put much more pressure on our organs than normal. And we can also get fluid in the gut. This also puts more pressure on the organs and this is all called acute abdominal compartment syndrome. In its more severe occurrences it can be fatal. It can shut down the organs, one by one, ending with the heart. > > There are ways to treat this. As little " messing around " with the interior of the gut is strongly recommended. Strong anti- inflammatories can and should be used. Diuretics can be helpful. And for fluid in the gut draining can save a life. And the final and most important treatment is to lose some weight before surgery. My surgeon recommended 10% of my body weight before the operation. That amounted to about 35 pounds. I lost about 20 but put it back on before my surgery so got no benefit from the loss. I did get acute abdominal compartment syndrome and had to have fluid drained from my gut on an emergency basis. That was, however, the result of additional emergency surgery for leaks after my normal DS surgery and not the DS surgery itself. > > It's important to note that this syndrome in its acute form is not the norm. The surgeons are all very aware of the risks and treatments for it. So if your surgeon suggests you lose some weight before surgery, listen to him and try very hard to comply. While this is a risk, it is a manageable one. > > Regards. > > Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart > San , TX, 60 years old > Surgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker > Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch > 340 starting weight, currently 244 > http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html > > > ACS > > > > What is abdominal compartment syndrome? > > > > Lynn > > Pre-op > > 5'2 " > > 230 lbs > > bmi 42 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 Joe, am curious to know the basis for your statement that anti inflammatories ought to be used for abdominal compartment syndrome. Can you post the URL for that info? Love to learn something new. Acute ACS is a medical/surgical crisis and generally requires decompression. "Messing around with the gut" tends to increase intestinal edema and internal pressures post op. Chronic ACS is not, to my knowledge, responsive to anti inflammatories. People with central obesity (carry higher proportion of weight around the middle-- frequently men) are more at risk for chronic ACS. in Seattle ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Frost Lynn: There are ways to treat this. As little "messing around" with the interior of the gut is strongly recommended. Strong anti-inflammatories can and should be used. Diuretics can be helpful. And for fluid in the gut draining can save a life. And the final and most important treatment is to lose some weight before surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 I take anti-inflammatories daily and have had to switch to Celebrex because of the harsh effect they have on my stomach and my dr. told me that after the switch my stomach would be even more sensitive to this type of drug possibly causing ulcers. I would think they would not be a treatment for ACS. Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html Re: ACS Joe, am curious to know the basis for your statement that anti inflammatories ought to be used for abdominal compartment syndrome. Can you post the URL for that info? Love to learn something new. Acute ACS is a medical/surgical crisis and generally requires decompression. "Messing around with the gut" tends to increase intestinal edema and internal pressures post op. Chronic ACS is not, to my knowledge, responsive to anti inflammatories. People with central obesity (carry higher proportion of weight around the middle-- frequently men) are more at risk for chronic ACS. in Seattle ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Frost Lynn: There are ways to treat this. As little "messing around" with the interior of the gut is strongly recommended. Strong anti-inflammatories can and should be used. Diuretics can be helpful. And for fluid in the gut draining can save a life. And the final and most important treatment is to lose some weight before surgery. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 : I have no idea where I got the idea that anti-inflammatories should be used for ACS. I expect I heard it from Dr. Welker in one of the support groups. Or I might have done what I usually do, just made it up because I liked the sound of it. I also know that while I took Furosemide for my congestive heart failure my Cardiologist gave me some Spironolactone for foot and ankle swelling. He said this was a completely different type of diuretic from the Furosemide and might help my particular type of edema while the Furosemide did not. I assume there are specific types of diuretics which might help the ACS while all forms may well not. Regards. Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 244http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html Re: ACS Joe, am curious to know the basis for your statement that anti inflammatories ought to be used for abdominal compartment syndrome. Can you post the URL for that info? Love to learn something new. Acute ACS is a medical/surgical crisis and generally requires decompression. "Messing around with the gut" tends to increase intestinal edema and internal pressures post op. Chronic ACS is not, to my knowledge, responsive to anti inflammatories. People with central obesity (carry higher proportion of weight around the middle-- frequently men) are more at risk for chronic ACS. in Seattle ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Frost Lynn: There are ways to treat this. As little "messing around" with the interior of the gut is strongly recommended. Strong anti-inflammatories can and should be used. Diuretics can be helpful. And for fluid in the gut draining can save a life. And the final and most important treatment is to lose some weight before surgery. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 Yes, Joe, invention is great fun. who knows what new medical treatment you might discover as a result of liking the sound of it. LOL The 'Joe Frost Cure' is yet to come. Using 2 diuretics with 2 different types of action, as with spirolactone and furosemide can be very effective. Might also prevent folks getting a "swelled head" you think? LOL Has your CHF resolved with your weight loss? I had CHF due to fluid overload post op. The residents thought I was "dry" and hydrated me to the point of crisis. I tried to tell them... but hey who's listening to a gorked post op DS patient? Not residents. Dr Welker found me bloated like a fish the next day and promptly started me on IV furosemide. I weighed 25 lbs more than post op on about day 3. I pissed it off.. In a crisis situation, decompression is generally done for acute ACS. in Seattle ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Frost : I have no idea where I got the idea that anti-inflammatories should be used for ACS. I expect I heard it from Dr. Welker in one of the support groups. Or I might have done what I usually do, just made it up because I liked the sound of it. I also know that while I took Furosemide for my congestive heart failure my Cardiologist gave me some Spironolactone for foot and ankle swelling. He said this was a completely different type of diuretic from the Furosemide and might help my particular type of edema while the Furosemide did not. I assume there are specific types of diuretics which might help the ACS while all forms may well not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 : >>Using 2 diuretics with 2 different types of action, as with spirolactone and furosemide can be very effective. Might also prevent folks getting a "swelled head" you think? LOL << Unfortunately it hasn't worked for me. Regards. Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 244http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 LOL! Well, Joe, if it did you no good, then I won't bother trying....Nan E. --- Joe Frost joefrost@...> wrote: > : > > >>Using 2 diuretics with 2 different types of action, as with spirolactone > and furosemide can be very effective. Might also prevent folks getting a > " swelled head " you think? LOL << > > Unfortunately it hasn't worked for me. > > Regards. > > Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart > San , TX, 60 years old > Surgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker > Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch > 340 starting weight, currently 244 > http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 Micky-- there is always ye olde injection or EL Inter Venous line for administrtion of anti-inflams in a pinch. Nan E.( not looking forward to being without anti-inflams for her arthritic knees, let alone any potential ACS! ) --- Micky lilhandsdc@...> wrote: > I take anti-inflammatories daily and have had to switch to Celebrex because > of the harsh effect they have on my stomach and my dr. told me that after the > switch my stomach would be even more sensitive to this type of drug possibly > causing ulcers. I would think they would not be a treatment for ACS. > Micky > co-owner KoalityKare > " Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless. " > http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html > Re: ACS > > > Joe, am curious to know the basis for your statement that anti > inflammatories ought to be used for abdominal compartment syndrome. Can you > post the URL for that info? Love to learn something new. > > Acute ACS is a medical/surgical crisis and generally requires > decompression. " Messing around with the gut " tends to increase intestinal > edema and internal pressures post op. Chronic ACS is not, to my knowledge, > responsive to anti inflammatories. People with central obesity (carry higher > proportion of weight around the middle-- frequently men) are more at risk for > chronic ACS. > > in Seattle > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joe Frost > > > Lynn: > There are ways to treat this. As little " messing around " with the > interior of the gut is strongly recommended. Strong anti-inflammatories can > and should be used. Diuretics can be helpful. And for fluid in the gut > draining can save a life. And the final and most important treatment is to > lose some weight before surgery. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2001 Report Share Posted May 6, 2001 I'll have to check that out. The Celebrex isn't working as well as the Naprysen. I have Rheumatoid arthritis and my whole body is getting more and more achy and stiff. I hope this doesn't prevent me from having the surgery. Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html Re: ACS> > > Joe, am curious to know the basis for your statement that anti> inflammatories ought to be used for abdominal compartment syndrome. Can you> post the URL for that info? Love to learn something new. > > Acute ACS is a medical/surgical crisis and generally requires> decompression. "Messing around with the gut" tends to increase intestinal> edema and internal pressures post op. Chronic ACS is not, to my knowledge,> responsive to anti inflammatories. People with central obesity (carry higher> proportion of weight around the middle-- frequently men) are more at risk for> chronic ACS. > > in Seattle> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joe Frost > > > Lynn: > There are ways to treat this. As little "messing around" with the> interior of the gut is strongly recommended. Strong anti-inflammatories can> and should be used. Diuretics can be helpful. And for fluid in the gut> draining can save a life. And the final and most important treatment is to> lose some weight before surgery. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2001 Report Share Posted May 6, 2001 Hi Micky-- I didn't get much from celebrex, either-- Vioxx works better for me. Good Luck! You know, I can't rememberif cortisone is a problem for surgery or not-- but a better short term anti-inflam there never was. Too many side effects for long term use, but if I can't make those knees move post op-- I may ask for it on a short term basis-- helps the allergies too. We will see what the doc has to say.-- Nan E. --- Micky lilhandsdc@...> wrote: > I'll have to check that out. The Celebrex isn't working as > well as the Naprysen. I have Rheumatoid arthritis and my whole > body is getting more and more achy and stiff. I hope this > doesn't prevent me from having the surgery. > Micky __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2001 Report Share Posted May 6, 2001 Hi Micky-- I didn't get much from celebrex, either-- Vioxx works better for me. Good Luck! You know, I can't rememberif cortisone is a problem for surgery or not-- but a better short term anti-inflam there never was. Too many side effects for long term use, but if I can't make those knees move post op-- I may ask for it on a short term basis-- helps the allergies too. We will see what the doc has to say.-- Nan E. --- Micky lilhandsdc@...> wrote: > I'll have to check that out. The Celebrex isn't working as > well as the Naprysen. I have Rheumatoid arthritis and my whole > body is getting more and more achy and stiff. I hope this > doesn't prevent me from having the surgery. > Micky __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2001 Report Share Posted May 6, 2001 I might have to try the Vioxx. I can feel the stiffness and achiness creepy through my body already! I'm just concerned that Vioxx is only for osteoarthritis and mines Rheumatoid. I'll find something that works!! LOL! Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html Re: ACS Hi Micky-- I didn't get much from celebrex, either-- Vioxx worksbetter for me. Good Luck! You know, I can't rememberif cortisoneis a problem for surgery or not-- but a better short termanti-inflam there never was. Too many side effects for long termuse, but if I can't make those knees move post op-- I may askfor it on a short term basis-- helps the allergies too. We willsee what the doc has to say.-- Nan E.--- Micky wrote:> I'll have to check that out. The Celebrex isn't working as> well as the Naprysen. I have Rheumatoid arthritis and my whole> body is getting more and more achy and stiff. I hope this> doesn't prevent me from having the surgery. > Micky__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2001 Report Share Posted May 6, 2001 I might have to try the Vioxx. I can feel the stiffness and achiness creepy through my body already! I'm just concerned that Vioxx is only for osteoarthritis and mines Rheumatoid. I'll find something that works!! LOL! Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html Re: ACS Hi Micky-- I didn't get much from celebrex, either-- Vioxx worksbetter for me. Good Luck! You know, I can't rememberif cortisoneis a problem for surgery or not-- but a better short termanti-inflam there never was. Too many side effects for long termuse, but if I can't make those knees move post op-- I may askfor it on a short term basis-- helps the allergies too. We willsee what the doc has to say.-- Nan E.--- Micky wrote:> I'll have to check that out. The Celebrex isn't working as> well as the Naprysen. I have Rheumatoid arthritis and my whole> body is getting more and more achy and stiff. I hope this> doesn't prevent me from having the surgery. > Micky__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2001 Report Share Posted May 6, 2001 I might have to try the Vioxx. I can feel the stiffness and achiness creepy through my body already! I'm just concerned that Vioxx is only for osteoarthritis and mines Rheumatoid. I'll find something that works!! LOL! Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html Re: ACS Hi Micky-- I didn't get much from celebrex, either-- Vioxx worksbetter for me. Good Luck! You know, I can't rememberif cortisoneis a problem for surgery or not-- but a better short termanti-inflam there never was. Too many side effects for long termuse, but if I can't make those knees move post op-- I may askfor it on a short term basis-- helps the allergies too. We willsee what the doc has to say.-- Nan E.--- Micky wrote:> I'll have to check that out. The Celebrex isn't working as> well as the Naprysen. I have Rheumatoid arthritis and my whole> body is getting more and more achy and stiff. I hope this> doesn't prevent me from having the surgery. > Micky__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2001 Report Share Posted May 6, 2001 Micky, If Naprosyn worked, then possibly Vioxx will also. Those two and Celebrex are all NSAIDs. Just that Celebrex and Vioxx are a new class of NSAIDs that were developed to be easier on the stomach. there has been some previous discussion here that some clinicians feel that Vioxx is easier on the stomach than Celebrex. Most DS surgeons discourage the use of NSAIDs other than those two post op. in Seattle ----- Original Message ----- From: Micky I might have to try the Vioxx. I can feel the stiffness and achiness creepy through my body already! I'm just concerned that Vioxx is only for osteoarthritis and mines Rheumatoid. I'll find something that works!! LOL! Micky ----- Original Message ----- From: Nan Earnheart Hi Micky-- I didn't get much from celebrex, either-- Vioxx worksbetter for me. Good Luck! You know, I can't rememberif cortisoneis a problem for surgery or not-- but a better short termanti-inflam there never was. Too many side effects for long termuse, but if I can't make those knees move post op-- I may askfor it on a short term basis-- helps the allergies too. We willsee what the doc has to say.-- Nan E.--- Micky wrote:> I'll have to check that out. The Celebrex isn't working as> well as the Naprysen. I have Rheumatoid arthritis and my whole> body is getting more and more achy and stiff. I hope this> doesn't prevent me from having the surgery. > Micky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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