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I know how you feel, . I was helping my dad at a craft show this

winter when the chair I was sitting in broke. I fell to the floor in a

sitting position with my back to the wall and my legs sprawed on either

side of a table leg. I knocked the poor man's painstakenly made crafts

all over the place. People stopped to stare. I couldn't roll over to get

up because my legs were straddling the table leg and I couldn't back up

because the wall was right there. I was finally able to pull my knee up

far enough to get around the table leg(more torn cartiledge) and roll over

and use the wall to get up. There stood my Dad, all 165 lbs. of him,

reaching his hand down to help me. I later told my mom that I had visions

of me and him rolling head over heels all around the Gym as we tried to

" help " each other up!!! Humor saves the day, again!

On a serious note, I can't tell you how much I appreciate that everyone

shares so much of themselves in this group. Until I found you all, I

thought I was so alone. I struggle to find the words to express how I

feel. I find that I am now more able to talk about the things that I

can't do because of my weight and ask for help when I need it. I hate to

use the expression, " misery loves company " so I'll change it to " misery

loves understanding " . Thanks so much to all of you out there.

>

> But I have to think too how hesitant someone might be to try to offer

> to help pull soemone off the ground who was twice or three times

> thier own weight.

>

> When I had trouble getting up on the exam table I had to ask to put

> my hand on the Drs shoulder to try to get up and he was so slight I

> thought I might hurt him...

>

> mary bmi 68

> corona, ca

> pre op 6/27/01 dr rabkin

> cigna ppo

>

>

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I know how you feel, . I was helping my dad at a craft show this

winter when the chair I was sitting in broke. I fell to the floor in a

sitting position with my back to the wall and my legs sprawed on either

side of a table leg. I knocked the poor man's painstakenly made crafts

all over the place. People stopped to stare. I couldn't roll over to get

up because my legs were straddling the table leg and I couldn't back up

because the wall was right there. I was finally able to pull my knee up

far enough to get around the table leg(more torn cartiledge) and roll over

and use the wall to get up. There stood my Dad, all 165 lbs. of him,

reaching his hand down to help me. I later told my mom that I had visions

of me and him rolling head over heels all around the Gym as we tried to

" help " each other up!!! Humor saves the day, again!

On a serious note, I can't tell you how much I appreciate that everyone

shares so much of themselves in this group. Until I found you all, I

thought I was so alone. I struggle to find the words to express how I

feel. I find that I am now more able to talk about the things that I

can't do because of my weight and ask for help when I need it. I hate to

use the expression, " misery loves company " so I'll change it to " misery

loves understanding " . Thanks so much to all of you out there.

>

> But I have to think too how hesitant someone might be to try to offer

> to help pull soemone off the ground who was twice or three times

> thier own weight.

>

> When I had trouble getting up on the exam table I had to ask to put

> my hand on the Drs shoulder to try to get up and he was so slight I

> thought I might hurt him...

>

> mary bmi 68

> corona, ca

> pre op 6/27/01 dr rabkin

> cigna ppo

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

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It was the most rewarding thing they have in their memories of growing up and it all started one day when they complained they were 'bored'. lol

I have fallen way off topic here. Sorry.

Good for you .

My husband was a director of a rescue mission in Philadelphia PA when we lived there.

We had homeless from half way decent to the really bad cases with alot of mental illness.

We brought our children too and they helped me cook and serve the men and women. We even brought some of them home when necessary. Your right it does build character in them and I hope none of mine will grow up to be selfish and uncaring adults.

Kathy B

June 7 Dr. Elariny

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It was the most rewarding thing they have in their memories of growing up and it all started one day when they complained they were 'bored'. lol

I have fallen way off topic here. Sorry.

Good for you .

My husband was a director of a rescue mission in Philadelphia PA when we lived there.

We had homeless from half way decent to the really bad cases with alot of mental illness.

We brought our children too and they helped me cook and serve the men and women. We even brought some of them home when necessary. Your right it does build character in them and I hope none of mine will grow up to be selfish and uncaring adults.

Kathy B

June 7 Dr. Elariny

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It was the most rewarding thing they have in their memories of growing up and it all started one day when they complained they were 'bored'. lol

I have fallen way off topic here. Sorry.

Good for you .

My husband was a director of a rescue mission in Philadelphia PA when we lived there.

We had homeless from half way decent to the really bad cases with alot of mental illness.

We brought our children too and they helped me cook and serve the men and women. We even brought some of them home when necessary. Your right it does build character in them and I hope none of mine will grow up to be selfish and uncaring adults.

Kathy B

June 7 Dr. Elariny

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Not to long ago I was searching for a present for my DH birthday and had

walked miles from the carpark to this one shop only to find it was two

stories up. I was tired and at the very last step right in front of the

shop window, I missed my footing and luckily (but painfully) landed on the

edge (skinning hands and knees). There was a gentleman a fair way behind me

who raced up the stairs to help me up (much to my utter embarrasement). I

sat winded for a moment, trying not to weep (I am an utter sook, it wasnt

pain it was embarrasement) and this kind gentleman sat with me and cracked a

joke about something and then asked if he could get me a glass of water or

anything. I said no (being the horrid person I am - all I wanted to do was

get rid of him and race away in shame). Sadly I don't think I even thanked

him properly, that should be my shame, not that I am overweight.

Tracey

>From: lookn2bthin@...

>Reply-To: duodenalswitch

>To: duodenalswitch

>Subject: Re: Re: Reminders of why

>Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 01:12:16 EDT

>

>In a message dated 5/13/01 9:42:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

>kgsmith1@... writes:

>

>

> >

> > It is hard to believe that people can be so uncaring and apathetic,

>(read

> > ignorant) when someone needs a little help. Thanks for the reminder of

>why.

> >

> >

>

>...

>

>Unfortunately there are many out there that claim to have compassion but

>when

>put to the test suddenly show the shallowness they have when someone is not

>as they feel should be. I have never had that happen yet but I can only

>imagine the feelings you experienced. It scares me to think that someone

>could die because people treat us overweight people that way. I try to

>remind myself that when we all get our weight under control it will be to

>the

>benefit not only to ourselves but to other heavy people when we do come to

>their aid and give them some dignity after having been their ourselves.

>

>

>~~* AJ *~~

>BMI 58

>NW Washington Medical

>DR Heap, Richmond WA

>Working on 1st appeal

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Not to long ago I was searching for a present for my DH birthday and had

walked miles from the carpark to this one shop only to find it was two

stories up. I was tired and at the very last step right in front of the

shop window, I missed my footing and luckily (but painfully) landed on the

edge (skinning hands and knees). There was a gentleman a fair way behind me

who raced up the stairs to help me up (much to my utter embarrasement). I

sat winded for a moment, trying not to weep (I am an utter sook, it wasnt

pain it was embarrasement) and this kind gentleman sat with me and cracked a

joke about something and then asked if he could get me a glass of water or

anything. I said no (being the horrid person I am - all I wanted to do was

get rid of him and race away in shame). Sadly I don't think I even thanked

him properly, that should be my shame, not that I am overweight.

Tracey

>From: lookn2bthin@...

>Reply-To: duodenalswitch

>To: duodenalswitch

>Subject: Re: Re: Reminders of why

>Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 01:12:16 EDT

>

>In a message dated 5/13/01 9:42:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

>kgsmith1@... writes:

>

>

> >

> > It is hard to believe that people can be so uncaring and apathetic,

>(read

> > ignorant) when someone needs a little help. Thanks for the reminder of

>why.

> >

> >

>

>...

>

>Unfortunately there are many out there that claim to have compassion but

>when

>put to the test suddenly show the shallowness they have when someone is not

>as they feel should be. I have never had that happen yet but I can only

>imagine the feelings you experienced. It scares me to think that someone

>could die because people treat us overweight people that way. I try to

>remind myself that when we all get our weight under control it will be to

>the

>benefit not only to ourselves but to other heavy people when we do come to

>their aid and give them some dignity after having been their ourselves.

>

>

>~~* AJ *~~

>BMI 58

>NW Washington Medical

>DR Heap, Richmond WA

>Working on 1st appeal

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Not to long ago I was searching for a present for my DH birthday and had

walked miles from the carpark to this one shop only to find it was two

stories up. I was tired and at the very last step right in front of the

shop window, I missed my footing and luckily (but painfully) landed on the

edge (skinning hands and knees). There was a gentleman a fair way behind me

who raced up the stairs to help me up (much to my utter embarrasement). I

sat winded for a moment, trying not to weep (I am an utter sook, it wasnt

pain it was embarrasement) and this kind gentleman sat with me and cracked a

joke about something and then asked if he could get me a glass of water or

anything. I said no (being the horrid person I am - all I wanted to do was

get rid of him and race away in shame). Sadly I don't think I even thanked

him properly, that should be my shame, not that I am overweight.

Tracey

>From: lookn2bthin@...

>Reply-To: duodenalswitch

>To: duodenalswitch

>Subject: Re: Re: Reminders of why

>Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 01:12:16 EDT

>

>In a message dated 5/13/01 9:42:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

>kgsmith1@... writes:

>

>

> >

> > It is hard to believe that people can be so uncaring and apathetic,

>(read

> > ignorant) when someone needs a little help. Thanks for the reminder of

>why.

> >

> >

>

>...

>

>Unfortunately there are many out there that claim to have compassion but

>when

>put to the test suddenly show the shallowness they have when someone is not

>as they feel should be. I have never had that happen yet but I can only

>imagine the feelings you experienced. It scares me to think that someone

>could die because people treat us overweight people that way. I try to

>remind myself that when we all get our weight under control it will be to

>the

>benefit not only to ourselves but to other heavy people when we do come to

>their aid and give them some dignity after having been their ourselves.

>

>

>~~* AJ *~~

>BMI 58

>NW Washington Medical

>DR Heap, Richmond WA

>Working on 1st appeal

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.........somehow I think through the hard times it does build

character in us and we are better for it in the long run........

AMEN, well said, Kathy B. All the feelings we have experienced can

either hurt us or help us. It is our choice how we perceive it. I

choose to be kind to all beings.

Before my surgery, I never had a clear picture how big I really was.

I would see pictures of me and it still did not register. I looked

at every heavy woman I would see and wonder, " am I that big " Now I

look at every heavy person I see and feel nothing but sorrow.

I brought my sons up with a heart for the disadvantaged. They often

go in the stores and buy sandwiches and give it to poor people

begging for money. That is the difference in those people that walk

right by while someone is laying on the ground. Upbringing. Those

same people probably had parents that laughed at heavy people.

It is important to keep your children busy with sports and projects.

One of the most important projects I involved my children in was

volunteering in a youth house for troubled kids. It was the most

rewarding thing they have in their memories of growing up and it all

started one day when they complained they were 'bored'. lol

I have fallen way off topic here. Sorry.

Viau

http://www.angelfire.com/on/wannabemagic/WLS.html

3/29/01: 316

5/117/01: 276 (-40 lbs)

Dr Ren, NYUMC http://www.thinforlife.org

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.........somehow I think through the hard times it does build

character in us and we are better for it in the long run........

AMEN, well said, Kathy B. All the feelings we have experienced can

either hurt us or help us. It is our choice how we perceive it. I

choose to be kind to all beings.

Before my surgery, I never had a clear picture how big I really was.

I would see pictures of me and it still did not register. I looked

at every heavy woman I would see and wonder, " am I that big " Now I

look at every heavy person I see and feel nothing but sorrow.

I brought my sons up with a heart for the disadvantaged. They often

go in the stores and buy sandwiches and give it to poor people

begging for money. That is the difference in those people that walk

right by while someone is laying on the ground. Upbringing. Those

same people probably had parents that laughed at heavy people.

It is important to keep your children busy with sports and projects.

One of the most important projects I involved my children in was

volunteering in a youth house for troubled kids. It was the most

rewarding thing they have in their memories of growing up and it all

started one day when they complained they were 'bored'. lol

I have fallen way off topic here. Sorry.

Viau

http://www.angelfire.com/on/wannabemagic/WLS.html

3/29/01: 316

5/117/01: 276 (-40 lbs)

Dr Ren, NYUMC http://www.thinforlife.org

To join the new group for Dr Ren click on the link below

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NYUMC-thinforlife

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" . Until I found you all, I

thought I was so alone. I struggle to find the words to express how I

feel. I find that I am now more able to talk about the things that I

can't do because of my weight and ask for help when I need it. "

I think its very hard for people of " normal " size to relate at all to

what our problems are.

I can remember my Uncle who must have been 350 lb. ... when he came

to visit he would always stand when he was at my apartment. I thought

because of the long drive that he was sick of sitting. It never

dawned on me that he couldn't fit into any of my chairs. I just

couldn't conceive of that concept.

I feel so bad now that I realize what was going on, as I didn't have

a clue then. He has now passed on after a diabetic amputation and 5

yrs in a nursing home due to paralysis and inability to speak from a

stroke, and now I cant tell him. He is one of the reasons why I need

this surgery... I don't want to end up like him.

Hey if anyone is going to understand what we go through its the

people here... we have all lived in our own little worlds without

anyone to share it with.. Now we have each other.

mary bmi 68

corona, ca

pre op 6/27/01 dr rabkin

cigna ppo

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" . Until I found you all, I

thought I was so alone. I struggle to find the words to express how I

feel. I find that I am now more able to talk about the things that I

can't do because of my weight and ask for help when I need it. "

I think its very hard for people of " normal " size to relate at all to

what our problems are.

I can remember my Uncle who must have been 350 lb. ... when he came

to visit he would always stand when he was at my apartment. I thought

because of the long drive that he was sick of sitting. It never

dawned on me that he couldn't fit into any of my chairs. I just

couldn't conceive of that concept.

I feel so bad now that I realize what was going on, as I didn't have

a clue then. He has now passed on after a diabetic amputation and 5

yrs in a nursing home due to paralysis and inability to speak from a

stroke, and now I cant tell him. He is one of the reasons why I need

this surgery... I don't want to end up like him.

Hey if anyone is going to understand what we go through its the

people here... we have all lived in our own little worlds without

anyone to share it with.. Now we have each other.

mary bmi 68

corona, ca

pre op 6/27/01 dr rabkin

cigna ppo

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" . Until I found you all, I

thought I was so alone. I struggle to find the words to express how I

feel. I find that I am now more able to talk about the things that I

can't do because of my weight and ask for help when I need it. "

I think its very hard for people of " normal " size to relate at all to

what our problems are.

I can remember my Uncle who must have been 350 lb. ... when he came

to visit he would always stand when he was at my apartment. I thought

because of the long drive that he was sick of sitting. It never

dawned on me that he couldn't fit into any of my chairs. I just

couldn't conceive of that concept.

I feel so bad now that I realize what was going on, as I didn't have

a clue then. He has now passed on after a diabetic amputation and 5

yrs in a nursing home due to paralysis and inability to speak from a

stroke, and now I cant tell him. He is one of the reasons why I need

this surgery... I don't want to end up like him.

Hey if anyone is going to understand what we go through its the

people here... we have all lived in our own little worlds without

anyone to share it with.. Now we have each other.

mary bmi 68

corona, ca

pre op 6/27/01 dr rabkin

cigna ppo

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Tracey,

*hugs* I'm sure he understood your embarassment and realized you were

also appreciative, even though you may not have said it. I think we

all do things we're not too proud of whether we're MO or not and no

one really likes to spend more time in an embarrassing situation than

possible, whether or not it's related to weight. (I remember in

college I was hurling my guts out after a typical college night of

partying and my friend held my hair back for me so I wouldn't

mess up my hair. I was rude to him because I wanted to him to go away

and leave me to my embarrassment and misery, but he stayed anyway. I

went by and thanked him the next day, but I do regret I was rude in

the first place when he was trying to help.) I'm sure if you knew

who this man was, you would thank him. That you regret that you

didn't makes you a good person, who's human.

I think all that's required is a helping hand for a helping hand.

*hugs again*

Anita

Pre-pre-op in Denver

> Not to long ago I was searching for a present for my DH birthday

and had

> walked miles from the carpark to this one shop only to find it was

two

> stories up. I was tired and at the very last step right in front

of the

> shop window, I missed my footing and luckily (but painfully) landed

on the

> edge (skinning hands and knees). There was a gentleman a fair way

behind me

> who raced up the stairs to help me up (much to my utter

embarrasement). I

> sat winded for a moment, trying not to weep (I am an utter sook, it

wasnt

> pain it was embarrasement) and this kind gentleman sat with me and

cracked a

> joke about something and then asked if he could get me a glass of

water or

> anything. I said no (being the horrid person I am - all I wanted

to do was

> get rid of him and race away in shame). Sadly I don't think I even

thanked

> him properly, that should be my shame, not that I am overweight.

>

> Tracey

>

>

> >From: lookn2bthin@c...

> >Reply-To: duodenalswitch@y...

> >To: duodenalswitch@y...

> >Subject: Re: Re: Reminders of why

> >Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 01:12:16 EDT

> >

> >In a message dated 5/13/01 9:42:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> >kgsmith1@q... writes:

> >

> >

> > >

> > > It is hard to believe that people can be so uncaring and

apathetic,

> >(read

> > > ignorant) when someone needs a little help. Thanks for the

reminder of

> >why.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >...

> >

> >Unfortunately there are many out there that claim to have

compassion but

> >when

> >put to the test suddenly show the shallowness they have when

someone is not

> >as they feel should be. I have never had that happen yet but I

can only

> >imagine the feelings you experienced. It scares me to think that

someone

> >could die because people treat us overweight people that way. I

try to

> >remind myself that when we all get our weight under control it

will be to

> >the

> >benefit not only to ourselves but to other heavy people when we do

come to

> >their aid and give them some dignity after having been their

ourselves.

> >

> >

> >~~* AJ *~~

> >BMI 58

> >NW Washington Medical

> >DR Heap, Richmond WA

> >Working on 1st appeal

>

>

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Tracey,

*hugs* I'm sure he understood your embarassment and realized you were

also appreciative, even though you may not have said it. I think we

all do things we're not too proud of whether we're MO or not and no

one really likes to spend more time in an embarrassing situation than

possible, whether or not it's related to weight. (I remember in

college I was hurling my guts out after a typical college night of

partying and my friend held my hair back for me so I wouldn't

mess up my hair. I was rude to him because I wanted to him to go away

and leave me to my embarrassment and misery, but he stayed anyway. I

went by and thanked him the next day, but I do regret I was rude in

the first place when he was trying to help.) I'm sure if you knew

who this man was, you would thank him. That you regret that you

didn't makes you a good person, who's human.

I think all that's required is a helping hand for a helping hand.

*hugs again*

Anita

Pre-pre-op in Denver

> Not to long ago I was searching for a present for my DH birthday

and had

> walked miles from the carpark to this one shop only to find it was

two

> stories up. I was tired and at the very last step right in front

of the

> shop window, I missed my footing and luckily (but painfully) landed

on the

> edge (skinning hands and knees). There was a gentleman a fair way

behind me

> who raced up the stairs to help me up (much to my utter

embarrasement). I

> sat winded for a moment, trying not to weep (I am an utter sook, it

wasnt

> pain it was embarrasement) and this kind gentleman sat with me and

cracked a

> joke about something and then asked if he could get me a glass of

water or

> anything. I said no (being the horrid person I am - all I wanted

to do was

> get rid of him and race away in shame). Sadly I don't think I even

thanked

> him properly, that should be my shame, not that I am overweight.

>

> Tracey

>

>

> >From: lookn2bthin@c...

> >Reply-To: duodenalswitch@y...

> >To: duodenalswitch@y...

> >Subject: Re: Re: Reminders of why

> >Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 01:12:16 EDT

> >

> >In a message dated 5/13/01 9:42:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> >kgsmith1@q... writes:

> >

> >

> > >

> > > It is hard to believe that people can be so uncaring and

apathetic,

> >(read

> > > ignorant) when someone needs a little help. Thanks for the

reminder of

> >why.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >...

> >

> >Unfortunately there are many out there that claim to have

compassion but

> >when

> >put to the test suddenly show the shallowness they have when

someone is not

> >as they feel should be. I have never had that happen yet but I

can only

> >imagine the feelings you experienced. It scares me to think that

someone

> >could die because people treat us overweight people that way. I

try to

> >remind myself that when we all get our weight under control it

will be to

> >the

> >benefit not only to ourselves but to other heavy people when we do

come to

> >their aid and give them some dignity after having been their

ourselves.

> >

> >

> >~~* AJ *~~

> >BMI 58

> >NW Washington Medical

> >DR Heap, Richmond WA

> >Working on 1st appeal

>

>

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Tracey,

*hugs* I'm sure he understood your embarassment and realized you were

also appreciative, even though you may not have said it. I think we

all do things we're not too proud of whether we're MO or not and no

one really likes to spend more time in an embarrassing situation than

possible, whether or not it's related to weight. (I remember in

college I was hurling my guts out after a typical college night of

partying and my friend held my hair back for me so I wouldn't

mess up my hair. I was rude to him because I wanted to him to go away

and leave me to my embarrassment and misery, but he stayed anyway. I

went by and thanked him the next day, but I do regret I was rude in

the first place when he was trying to help.) I'm sure if you knew

who this man was, you would thank him. That you regret that you

didn't makes you a good person, who's human.

I think all that's required is a helping hand for a helping hand.

*hugs again*

Anita

Pre-pre-op in Denver

> Not to long ago I was searching for a present for my DH birthday

and had

> walked miles from the carpark to this one shop only to find it was

two

> stories up. I was tired and at the very last step right in front

of the

> shop window, I missed my footing and luckily (but painfully) landed

on the

> edge (skinning hands and knees). There was a gentleman a fair way

behind me

> who raced up the stairs to help me up (much to my utter

embarrasement). I

> sat winded for a moment, trying not to weep (I am an utter sook, it

wasnt

> pain it was embarrasement) and this kind gentleman sat with me and

cracked a

> joke about something and then asked if he could get me a glass of

water or

> anything. I said no (being the horrid person I am - all I wanted

to do was

> get rid of him and race away in shame). Sadly I don't think I even

thanked

> him properly, that should be my shame, not that I am overweight.

>

> Tracey

>

>

> >From: lookn2bthin@c...

> >Reply-To: duodenalswitch@y...

> >To: duodenalswitch@y...

> >Subject: Re: Re: Reminders of why

> >Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 01:12:16 EDT

> >

> >In a message dated 5/13/01 9:42:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> >kgsmith1@q... writes:

> >

> >

> > >

> > > It is hard to believe that people can be so uncaring and

apathetic,

> >(read

> > > ignorant) when someone needs a little help. Thanks for the

reminder of

> >why.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >...

> >

> >Unfortunately there are many out there that claim to have

compassion but

> >when

> >put to the test suddenly show the shallowness they have when

someone is not

> >as they feel should be. I have never had that happen yet but I

can only

> >imagine the feelings you experienced. It scares me to think that

someone

> >could die because people treat us overweight people that way. I

try to

> >remind myself that when we all get our weight under control it

will be to

> >the

> >benefit not only to ourselves but to other heavy people when we do

come to

> >their aid and give them some dignity after having been their

ourselves.

> >

> >

> >~~* AJ *~~

> >BMI 58

> >NW Washington Medical

> >DR Heap, Richmond WA

> >Working on 1st appeal

>

>

______________________________________________________________________

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Thanks Anita

>

>Reply-To: duodenalswitch

>To: duodenalswitch

>Subject: Re: Reminders of why

>Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:48:39 -0000

>

>Tracey,

>

>*hugs* I'm sure he understood your embarassment and realized you were

>also appreciative, even though you may not have said it. I think we

>all do things we're not too proud of whether we're MO or not and no

>one really likes to spend more time in an embarrassing situation than

>possible, whether or not it's related to weight. (I remember in

>college I was hurling my guts out after a typical college night of

>partying and my friend held my hair back for me so I wouldn't

>mess up my hair. I was rude to him because I wanted to him to go away

>and leave me to my embarrassment and misery, but he stayed anyway. I

>went by and thanked him the next day, but I do regret I was rude in

>the first place when he was trying to help.) I'm sure if you knew

>who this man was, you would thank him. That you regret that you

>didn't makes you a good person, who's human.

>

>I think all that's required is a helping hand for a helping hand.

>

>*hugs again*

>

>Anita

>Pre-pre-op in Denver

>

>

> > Not to long ago I was searching for a present for my DH birthday

>and had

> > walked miles from the carpark to this one shop only to find it was

>two

> > stories up. I was tired and at the very last step right in front

>of the

> > shop window, I missed my footing and luckily (but painfully) landed

>on the

> > edge (skinning hands and knees). There was a gentleman a fair way

>behind me

> > who raced up the stairs to help me up (much to my utter

>embarrasement). I

> > sat winded for a moment, trying not to weep (I am an utter sook, it

>wasnt

> > pain it was embarrasement) and this kind gentleman sat with me and

>cracked a

> > joke about something and then asked if he could get me a glass of

>water or

> > anything. I said no (being the horrid person I am - all I wanted

>to do was

> > get rid of him and race away in shame). Sadly I don't think I even

>thanked

> > him properly, that should be my shame, not that I am overweight.

> >

> > Tracey

> >

> >

> > >From: lookn2bthin@c...

> > >Reply-To: duodenalswitch@y...

> > >To: duodenalswitch@y...

> > >Subject: Re: Re: Reminders of why

> > >Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 01:12:16 EDT

> > >

> > >In a message dated 5/13/01 9:42:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> > >kgsmith1@q... writes:

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > It is hard to believe that people can be so uncaring and

>apathetic,

> > >(read

> > > > ignorant) when someone needs a little help. Thanks for the

>reminder of

> > >why.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >...

> > >

> > >Unfortunately there are many out there that claim to have

>compassion but

> > >when

> > >put to the test suddenly show the shallowness they have when

>someone is not

> > >as they feel should be. I have never had that happen yet but I

>can only

> > >imagine the feelings you experienced. It scares me to think that

>someone

> > >could die because people treat us overweight people that way. I

>try to

> > >remind myself that when we all get our weight under control it

>will be to

> > >the

> > >benefit not only to ourselves but to other heavy people when we do

>come to

> > >their aid and give them some dignity after having been their

>ourselves.

> > >

> > >

> > >~~* AJ *~~

> > >BMI 58

> > >NW Washington Medical

> > >DR Heap, Richmond WA

> > >Working on 1st appeal

> >

> >

>______________________________________________________________________

>___

> > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at

>http://www.hotmail.com.

>

>

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>

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Thanks Anita

>

>Reply-To: duodenalswitch

>To: duodenalswitch

>Subject: Re: Reminders of why

>Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:48:39 -0000

>

>Tracey,

>

>*hugs* I'm sure he understood your embarassment and realized you were

>also appreciative, even though you may not have said it. I think we

>all do things we're not too proud of whether we're MO or not and no

>one really likes to spend more time in an embarrassing situation than

>possible, whether or not it's related to weight. (I remember in

>college I was hurling my guts out after a typical college night of

>partying and my friend held my hair back for me so I wouldn't

>mess up my hair. I was rude to him because I wanted to him to go away

>and leave me to my embarrassment and misery, but he stayed anyway. I

>went by and thanked him the next day, but I do regret I was rude in

>the first place when he was trying to help.) I'm sure if you knew

>who this man was, you would thank him. That you regret that you

>didn't makes you a good person, who's human.

>

>I think all that's required is a helping hand for a helping hand.

>

>*hugs again*

>

>Anita

>Pre-pre-op in Denver

>

>

> > Not to long ago I was searching for a present for my DH birthday

>and had

> > walked miles from the carpark to this one shop only to find it was

>two

> > stories up. I was tired and at the very last step right in front

>of the

> > shop window, I missed my footing and luckily (but painfully) landed

>on the

> > edge (skinning hands and knees). There was a gentleman a fair way

>behind me

> > who raced up the stairs to help me up (much to my utter

>embarrasement). I

> > sat winded for a moment, trying not to weep (I am an utter sook, it

>wasnt

> > pain it was embarrasement) and this kind gentleman sat with me and

>cracked a

> > joke about something and then asked if he could get me a glass of

>water or

> > anything. I said no (being the horrid person I am - all I wanted

>to do was

> > get rid of him and race away in shame). Sadly I don't think I even

>thanked

> > him properly, that should be my shame, not that I am overweight.

> >

> > Tracey

> >

> >

> > >From: lookn2bthin@c...

> > >Reply-To: duodenalswitch@y...

> > >To: duodenalswitch@y...

> > >Subject: Re: Re: Reminders of why

> > >Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 01:12:16 EDT

> > >

> > >In a message dated 5/13/01 9:42:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> > >kgsmith1@q... writes:

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > It is hard to believe that people can be so uncaring and

>apathetic,

> > >(read

> > > > ignorant) when someone needs a little help. Thanks for the

>reminder of

> > >why.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >...

> > >

> > >Unfortunately there are many out there that claim to have

>compassion but

> > >when

> > >put to the test suddenly show the shallowness they have when

>someone is not

> > >as they feel should be. I have never had that happen yet but I

>can only

> > >imagine the feelings you experienced. It scares me to think that

>someone

> > >could die because people treat us overweight people that way. I

>try to

> > >remind myself that when we all get our weight under control it

>will be to

> > >the

> > >benefit not only to ourselves but to other heavy people when we do

>come to

> > >their aid and give them some dignity after having been their

>ourselves.

> > >

> > >

> > >~~* AJ *~~

> > >BMI 58

> > >NW Washington Medical

> > >DR Heap, Richmond WA

> > >Working on 1st appeal

> >

> >

>______________________________________________________________________

>___

> > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at

>http://www.hotmail.com.

>

>

>----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

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Thanks Anita

>

>Reply-To: duodenalswitch

>To: duodenalswitch

>Subject: Re: Reminders of why

>Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:48:39 -0000

>

>Tracey,

>

>*hugs* I'm sure he understood your embarassment and realized you were

>also appreciative, even though you may not have said it. I think we

>all do things we're not too proud of whether we're MO or not and no

>one really likes to spend more time in an embarrassing situation than

>possible, whether or not it's related to weight. (I remember in

>college I was hurling my guts out after a typical college night of

>partying and my friend held my hair back for me so I wouldn't

>mess up my hair. I was rude to him because I wanted to him to go away

>and leave me to my embarrassment and misery, but he stayed anyway. I

>went by and thanked him the next day, but I do regret I was rude in

>the first place when he was trying to help.) I'm sure if you knew

>who this man was, you would thank him. That you regret that you

>didn't makes you a good person, who's human.

>

>I think all that's required is a helping hand for a helping hand.

>

>*hugs again*

>

>Anita

>Pre-pre-op in Denver

>

>

> > Not to long ago I was searching for a present for my DH birthday

>and had

> > walked miles from the carpark to this one shop only to find it was

>two

> > stories up. I was tired and at the very last step right in front

>of the

> > shop window, I missed my footing and luckily (but painfully) landed

>on the

> > edge (skinning hands and knees). There was a gentleman a fair way

>behind me

> > who raced up the stairs to help me up (much to my utter

>embarrasement). I

> > sat winded for a moment, trying not to weep (I am an utter sook, it

>wasnt

> > pain it was embarrasement) and this kind gentleman sat with me and

>cracked a

> > joke about something and then asked if he could get me a glass of

>water or

> > anything. I said no (being the horrid person I am - all I wanted

>to do was

> > get rid of him and race away in shame). Sadly I don't think I even

>thanked

> > him properly, that should be my shame, not that I am overweight.

> >

> > Tracey

> >

> >

> > >From: lookn2bthin@c...

> > >Reply-To: duodenalswitch@y...

> > >To: duodenalswitch@y...

> > >Subject: Re: Re: Reminders of why

> > >Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 01:12:16 EDT

> > >

> > >In a message dated 5/13/01 9:42:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> > >kgsmith1@q... writes:

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > It is hard to believe that people can be so uncaring and

>apathetic,

> > >(read

> > > > ignorant) when someone needs a little help. Thanks for the

>reminder of

> > >why.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >...

> > >

> > >Unfortunately there are many out there that claim to have

>compassion but

> > >when

> > >put to the test suddenly show the shallowness they have when

>someone is not

> > >as they feel should be. I have never had that happen yet but I

>can only

> > >imagine the feelings you experienced. It scares me to think that

>someone

> > >could die because people treat us overweight people that way. I

>try to

> > >remind myself that when we all get our weight under control it

>will be to

> > >the

> > >benefit not only to ourselves but to other heavy people when we do

>come to

> > >their aid and give them some dignity after having been their

>ourselves.

> > >

> > >

> > >~~* AJ *~~

> > >BMI 58

> > >NW Washington Medical

> > >DR Heap, Richmond WA

> > >Working on 1st appeal

> >

> >

>______________________________________________________________________

>___

> > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at

>http://www.hotmail.com.

>

>

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>

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...as usual, you are right on the money with this...it is difficult for

folks to fully understand the difficulties of any one with a

disability...until/unless they have actually experienced it personally...i

had the misfortune of being confined to a wheelchair some time ago...my

lupus was acting up and it was too painful to walk...i tell you, that was an

eye opener...have always been compassionate and considerate, i thought...but

after that experience, i look at wheel-chair-bound individuals with a whole

new respect and solicitation for their comfort/ safety etc...i thank god

that the situation was only temporary for me and will now absolutely go to

whatever ends necessary to assist...jmtc...nancy fissel

>From: waterlilys@...

>Reply-To: duodenalswitch

>To: duodenalswitch

>Subject: Re: Reminders of why

>Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:10:35 -0000

>

>

>I think its very hard for people of " normal " size to relate at all to

>what our problems are.

>

>>

>>

>Hey if anyone is going to understand what we go through its the

>people here... we have all lived in our own little worlds without

>anyone to share it with.. Now we have each other.

>

>mary bmi 68

>corona, ca

>pre op 6/27/01 dr rabkin

>cigna ppo

>

>

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>

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...as usual, you are right on the money with this...it is difficult for

folks to fully understand the difficulties of any one with a

disability...until/unless they have actually experienced it personally...i

had the misfortune of being confined to a wheelchair some time ago...my

lupus was acting up and it was too painful to walk...i tell you, that was an

eye opener...have always been compassionate and considerate, i thought...but

after that experience, i look at wheel-chair-bound individuals with a whole

new respect and solicitation for their comfort/ safety etc...i thank god

that the situation was only temporary for me and will now absolutely go to

whatever ends necessary to assist...jmtc...nancy fissel

>From: waterlilys@...

>Reply-To: duodenalswitch

>To: duodenalswitch

>Subject: Re: Reminders of why

>Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:10:35 -0000

>

>

>I think its very hard for people of " normal " size to relate at all to

>what our problems are.

>

>>

>>

>Hey if anyone is going to understand what we go through its the

>people here... we have all lived in our own little worlds without

>anyone to share it with.. Now we have each other.

>

>mary bmi 68

>corona, ca

>pre op 6/27/01 dr rabkin

>cigna ppo

>

>

>----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

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...as usual, you are right on the money with this...it is difficult for

folks to fully understand the difficulties of any one with a

disability...until/unless they have actually experienced it personally...i

had the misfortune of being confined to a wheelchair some time ago...my

lupus was acting up and it was too painful to walk...i tell you, that was an

eye opener...have always been compassionate and considerate, i thought...but

after that experience, i look at wheel-chair-bound individuals with a whole

new respect and solicitation for their comfort/ safety etc...i thank god

that the situation was only temporary for me and will now absolutely go to

whatever ends necessary to assist...jmtc...nancy fissel

>From: waterlilys@...

>Reply-To: duodenalswitch

>To: duodenalswitch

>Subject: Re: Reminders of why

>Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:10:35 -0000

>

>

>I think its very hard for people of " normal " size to relate at all to

>what our problems are.

>

>>

>>

>Hey if anyone is going to understand what we go through its the

>people here... we have all lived in our own little worlds without

>anyone to share it with.. Now we have each other.

>

>mary bmi 68

>corona, ca

>pre op 6/27/01 dr rabkin

>cigna ppo

>

>

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>

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Hi Meli,

I read your post and I can identify with everything you are saying. I, too, am getting extremely terrified about this surgery, although mine isn't until July 9th. Just last night I sat there, totally distracted, and thought to myself, "What in the WORLD am I going to do to myself"? Then, just minutes later, as I carried a basket full of wash up the stairs, and SUCKED enough air out of the room to fly the HINDENBERG, I realized that I MUST do this.

So, hopefully, the good Lord willing, next year you'll be running up and down the bleachers, and I'll be running up and down the steps!!! And there will still be enough oxygen left for the rest of the people nearby!! ha! Ha!!

Hope you're feeling better now!!

Pam

Pre-op in MD

Dr. Vanguri

Surgery date July 9, 2001

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Thanks Pam for the support, I cant wait until next summer and all the

energy I will have. The anticiaption part of it can be agony!!!

But arent we lucky to have found this website and to get our

insurance companies to pay? We're blessed, and we just have to keep

telling ourselves that! I am indeed feeling better, thanks to all

the wonderful folks like you on this list.

Meli

BMI 47

Dr Hess

June 21

Summer Solstice

-- In duodenalswitch@y..., pamjams2@a... wrote:

> Hi Meli,

>

> I read your post and I can identify with everything you are

saying. I, too,

> am getting extremely terrified about this surgery, although mine

isn't until

> July 9th. Just last night I sat there, totally distracted, and

thought to

> myself, " What in the WORLD am I going to do to myself " ? Then, just

minutes

> later, as I carried a basket full of wash up the stairs, and SUCKED

enough

> air out of the room to fly the HINDENBERG, I realized that I MUST

do this.

> So, hopefully, the good Lord willing, next year you'll be running

up and down

> the bleachers, and I'll be running up and down the steps!!! And

there will

> still be enough oxygen left for the rest of the people nearby!! ha!

Ha!!

>

> Hope you're feeling better now!!

>

>

> Pam

> Pre-op in MD

> Dr. Vanguri

> Surgery date July 9, 2001

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Meli.

One more reason why: now you can actually " go out with the girls " without

having the fear that they'll, unconsciously, leave you behind as they stride

along, deep in conversation, not realizing that you're falling farther and

farther behind. It happened to me and, though I called out to them, using

the excuse that my shoelace was untied, I still felt the humiliation of

asking them to slow down.They did, with all good will and good cheer, but we

all knew it wasn't because my legs are too short! Hopefully, next fall, I'll

be traipsing all over Manhattan with my friends without huffing,puffing, and

making feeble excuses!

Marcia

> Re: Reminders of why

>

>

> -

>

>

>

> Thanks Pam for the support, I cant wait until next summer and all the

> energy I will have. The anticiaption part of it can be agony!!!

> But arent we lucky to have found this website and to get our

> insurance companies to pay? We're blessed, and we just have to keep

> telling ourselves that! I am indeed feeling better, thanks to all

> the wonderful folks like you on this list.

>

> Meli

> BMI 47

> Dr Hess

> June 21

> Summer Solstice

>

>

>

>

>

> -- In duodenalswitch@y..., pamjams2@a... wrote:

> > Hi Meli,

> >

> > I read your post and I can identify with everything you are

> saying. I, too,

> > am getting extremely terrified about this surgery, although mine

> isn't until

> > July 9th. Just last night I sat there, totally distracted, and

> thought to

> > myself, " What in the WORLD am I going to do to myself " ? Then, just

> minutes

> > later, as I carried a basket full of wash up the stairs, and SUCKED

> enough

> > air out of the room to fly the HINDENBERG, I realized that I MUST

> do this.

> > So, hopefully, the good Lord willing, next year you'll be running

> up and down

> > the bleachers, and I'll be running up and down the steps!!! And

> there will

> > still be enough oxygen left for the rest of the people nearby!! ha!

> Ha!!

> >

> > Hope you're feeling better now!!

> >

> >

> > Pam

> > Pre-op in MD

> > Dr. Vanguri

> > Surgery date July 9, 2001

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

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