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In a message dated 4/9/2001 2:06:23 AM Mountain Daylight Time, duodenalswitch writes:

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Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 07:33:35 -0000

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Subject: Re: Sue Widemarks remarks

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Sue Widemark is a few sandwiches short of a picnic.. She's like the "know it all" neighbor everyone has- even if she's not researched it, she knows all about it & you can't change her mind with facts. I read her site and a lot of her claims are simply not true.

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Liane

Liane, AMEN SISTER!!! Sue is notorious in the WLS world as a wanna-be WLS expert. She will misquote, take out of context, mix facts on various surgeries and state her best guess as fact any chance she gets. I think she is a tragic person, really needing to feel important and like an expert. She has been banned from numerous lists for this behavior. Please, take ANYONE'S advice before you take Sue's. Meli

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In a message dated 4/10/01 2:30:38 AM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< Sue is notorious in the WLS world as a wanna-be

WLS expert. She will misquote, take out of context, mix facts on various

surgeries and state her best guess as fact any chance she gets. I think she

is a tragic person, really needing to feel important and like an expert. >>

Meli: Couldn't have said it better myself! I think she does misquote an

awful lot and get surgeries confused, putting them all under one blanket

'WLS' category.

She does prey on people's insecurities about having the surgery and causes

them to feel like they don't know EVERYTHING about WLS. Well, no one knows

everything about WLS. I think that's the ONLY point at which I would agree

with her! ROFL

Sure, these surgeries haven't been around for decades and we may not know ALL

of the complications that could be encountered. HOWEVER, we aren't merely

GUINEA PIGS left to totally fend for ourselves or put dangerously at risk

because no one wants to follow up. The surgeons performing these surgeries

may NOT all be perfect - and that is why one must research carefully and

CHOOSE WELL. :) This is true of anyone in the medical profession, IMHO.

The risks involved with staying morbidly obese are great --- the health

complications can be devastating, even fatal. IF we are educated about what

we are getting into (and in one of her twisty arguements, Sue did agree that

she mainly refers to those who 'go in blindly') and take responsibility for

our own health and aftercare, I have every indication that we will remain

successful and lead healthy, fruitful lives. :)

I would agree that those who blindly go into the surgery (one person even

referred to an RNY as a 'minor' surgery! YIKES) may be shocked afterwards

when the reality of the responsibility sets in for aftercare, etc. However,

I think most of us are well educated and know we must take responsibility for

ourselves, even if the surgeons/medical community takes a 'lazy' attitude.

I don't think we're just 'trading in' one set of hazards for another. Not

everyone experiences the entire list of possible complications post-op! With

proper aftercare, any nutritional deficiencies can be caught early and

addressed. If we take proper care of our new bodies, we can expect to enjoy

them to the fullest. :)

all the best,

laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal

Dr. Gagner/Dr. Quinn assisting/Mt. Sinai/NYC

January 25, 2001

77 days post-op and still feelin' fab! :)

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In a message dated 4/10/01 2:30:38 AM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< Sue is notorious in the WLS world as a wanna-be

WLS expert. She will misquote, take out of context, mix facts on various

surgeries and state her best guess as fact any chance she gets. I think she

is a tragic person, really needing to feel important and like an expert. >>

Meli: Couldn't have said it better myself! I think she does misquote an

awful lot and get surgeries confused, putting them all under one blanket

'WLS' category.

She does prey on people's insecurities about having the surgery and causes

them to feel like they don't know EVERYTHING about WLS. Well, no one knows

everything about WLS. I think that's the ONLY point at which I would agree

with her! ROFL

Sure, these surgeries haven't been around for decades and we may not know ALL

of the complications that could be encountered. HOWEVER, we aren't merely

GUINEA PIGS left to totally fend for ourselves or put dangerously at risk

because no one wants to follow up. The surgeons performing these surgeries

may NOT all be perfect - and that is why one must research carefully and

CHOOSE WELL. :) This is true of anyone in the medical profession, IMHO.

The risks involved with staying morbidly obese are great --- the health

complications can be devastating, even fatal. IF we are educated about what

we are getting into (and in one of her twisty arguements, Sue did agree that

she mainly refers to those who 'go in blindly') and take responsibility for

our own health and aftercare, I have every indication that we will remain

successful and lead healthy, fruitful lives. :)

I would agree that those who blindly go into the surgery (one person even

referred to an RNY as a 'minor' surgery! YIKES) may be shocked afterwards

when the reality of the responsibility sets in for aftercare, etc. However,

I think most of us are well educated and know we must take responsibility for

ourselves, even if the surgeons/medical community takes a 'lazy' attitude.

I don't think we're just 'trading in' one set of hazards for another. Not

everyone experiences the entire list of possible complications post-op! With

proper aftercare, any nutritional deficiencies can be caught early and

addressed. If we take proper care of our new bodies, we can expect to enjoy

them to the fullest. :)

all the best,

laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal

Dr. Gagner/Dr. Quinn assisting/Mt. Sinai/NYC

January 25, 2001

77 days post-op and still feelin' fab! :)

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In a message dated 4/10/01 2:30:38 AM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< Sue is notorious in the WLS world as a wanna-be

WLS expert. She will misquote, take out of context, mix facts on various

surgeries and state her best guess as fact any chance she gets. I think she

is a tragic person, really needing to feel important and like an expert. >>

Meli: Couldn't have said it better myself! I think she does misquote an

awful lot and get surgeries confused, putting them all under one blanket

'WLS' category.

She does prey on people's insecurities about having the surgery and causes

them to feel like they don't know EVERYTHING about WLS. Well, no one knows

everything about WLS. I think that's the ONLY point at which I would agree

with her! ROFL

Sure, these surgeries haven't been around for decades and we may not know ALL

of the complications that could be encountered. HOWEVER, we aren't merely

GUINEA PIGS left to totally fend for ourselves or put dangerously at risk

because no one wants to follow up. The surgeons performing these surgeries

may NOT all be perfect - and that is why one must research carefully and

CHOOSE WELL. :) This is true of anyone in the medical profession, IMHO.

The risks involved with staying morbidly obese are great --- the health

complications can be devastating, even fatal. IF we are educated about what

we are getting into (and in one of her twisty arguements, Sue did agree that

she mainly refers to those who 'go in blindly') and take responsibility for

our own health and aftercare, I have every indication that we will remain

successful and lead healthy, fruitful lives. :)

I would agree that those who blindly go into the surgery (one person even

referred to an RNY as a 'minor' surgery! YIKES) may be shocked afterwards

when the reality of the responsibility sets in for aftercare, etc. However,

I think most of us are well educated and know we must take responsibility for

ourselves, even if the surgeons/medical community takes a 'lazy' attitude.

I don't think we're just 'trading in' one set of hazards for another. Not

everyone experiences the entire list of possible complications post-op! With

proper aftercare, any nutritional deficiencies can be caught early and

addressed. If we take proper care of our new bodies, we can expect to enjoy

them to the fullest. :)

all the best,

laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal

Dr. Gagner/Dr. Quinn assisting/Mt. Sinai/NYC

January 25, 2001

77 days post-op and still feelin' fab! :)

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