Re: cinnamon? (was 'rotation of foods')

[Guest guest]

In my case, I'm pretty sure it was the cinnamon I was using (who knew default cinnamon in the U.S. was actually cassia? -- actually someone from this list knew). Say whaaat??? I'm using McCormick ground cinnamon, and I just assumed it was okay. Should I look into this more? Godspeed!Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO illegal)

[Guest guest]

In my case, I'm pretty sure it was the cinnamon I was using (who knew default cinnamon in the U.S. was actually cassia? -- actually someone from this list knew). Say whaaat??? I'm using McCormick ground cinnamon, and I just assumed it was okay. Should I look into this more? Godspeed!Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO illegal)

[Guest guest]

Alyssa,

 

McCormick ground cinnamon is not really cinnamon -- it is cassia.  I'm not sure whether cassia itself is illegal, but for some reason the spice companies in U.S. always add a starchy anti-caking ingredient to the cassia; so whether it's the cassia or the anti-caking ingredient I don't know, but it is illegal.  I found a specialty store here in Iowa that sells real cinnamon. They told me that ever since World War I (or II, I forget), the U.S. has used cassia instead of cinnamon and has always been allowed to market it as cinnamon.  If you're having symptoms, I would definitely cut the McCormick " cinnamon " out. 

 

Ann

 

Re: cinnamon? (was 'rotation of foods')   Posted by: " Alyssa Luck " luckycharms@... fruit_is_good   Date: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:44 pm ((PDT))

>  In my case, I'm pretty sure it was the cinnamon I was using (who> knew default cinnamon in the U.S. was actually cassia? -- actually> someone from this list knew).

Say whaaat??? I'm using McCormick ground cinnamon, and I just assumedit was okay. Should I look into this more?

Godspeed!Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SOillegal)

[Guest guest]

Alyssa,

 

McCormick ground cinnamon is not really cinnamon -- it is cassia.  I'm not sure whether cassia itself is illegal, but for some reason the spice companies in U.S. always add a starchy anti-caking ingredient to the cassia; so whether it's the cassia or the anti-caking ingredient I don't know, but it is illegal.  I found a specialty store here in Iowa that sells real cinnamon. They told me that ever since World War I (or II, I forget), the U.S. has used cassia instead of cinnamon and has always been allowed to market it as cinnamon.  If you're having symptoms, I would definitely cut the McCormick " cinnamon " out. 

 

Ann

 

Re: cinnamon? (was 'rotation of foods')   Posted by: " Alyssa Luck " luckycharms@... fruit_is_good   Date: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:44 pm ((PDT))

>  In my case, I'm pretty sure it was the cinnamon I was using (who> knew default cinnamon in the U.S. was actually cassia? -- actually> someone from this list knew).

Say whaaat??? I'm using McCormick ground cinnamon, and I just assumedit was okay. Should I look into this more?

Godspeed!Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SOillegal)

[Guest guest]

also McCormick's has cross contamination with gluten on it's lines

anyone know if Penzey's or Frontier are cassia or cinnamon????

eileen 20 months scd

>

> Alyssa,

>

> McCormick ground cinnamon is not really cinnamon -- it is cassia. I'm not

> sure whether cassia itself is illegal, but for some reason the spice

> companies in U.S. always add a starchy anti-caking ingredient to the cassia;

> so whether it's the cassia or the anti-caking ingredient I don't know, but

> it is illegal. I found a specialty store here in Iowa that sells real

> cinnamon. They told me that ever since World War I (or II, I forget), the

> U.S. has used cassia instead of cinnamon and has always been allowed to

> market it as cinnamon. If you're having symptoms, I would definitely cut

> the McCormick " cinnamon " out.

>

> Ann

>

> Re: cinnamon? (was 'rotation of foods')

> Posted by: " Alyssa Luck " luckycharms@... fruit_is_good

> Date: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:44 pm ((PDT))

>

> > In my case, I'm pretty sure it was the cinnamon I was using (who

> > knew default cinnamon in the U.S. was actually cassia? -- actually

> > someone from this list knew).

>

>

> Say whaaat??? I'm using McCormick ground cinnamon, and I just assumed

> it was okay. Should I look into this more?

>

> Godspeed!

> Alyssa 15 yo

> UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO

> illegal)

>

[Guest guest]

also McCormick's has cross contamination with gluten on it's lines

anyone know if Penzey's or Frontier are cassia or cinnamon????

eileen 20 months scd

>

> Alyssa,

>

> McCormick ground cinnamon is not really cinnamon -- it is cassia. I'm not

> sure whether cassia itself is illegal, but for some reason the spice

> companies in U.S. always add a starchy anti-caking ingredient to the cassia;

> so whether it's the cassia or the anti-caking ingredient I don't know, but

> it is illegal. I found a specialty store here in Iowa that sells real

> cinnamon. They told me that ever since World War I (or II, I forget), the

> U.S. has used cassia instead of cinnamon and has always been allowed to

> market it as cinnamon. If you're having symptoms, I would definitely cut

> the McCormick " cinnamon " out.

>

> Ann

>

> Re: cinnamon? (was 'rotation of foods')

> Posted by: " Alyssa Luck " luckycharms@... fruit_is_good

> Date: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:44 pm ((PDT))

>

> > In my case, I'm pretty sure it was the cinnamon I was using (who

> > knew default cinnamon in the U.S. was actually cassia? -- actually

> > someone from this list knew).

>

>

> Say whaaat??? I'm using McCormick ground cinnamon, and I just assumed

> it was okay. Should I look into this more?

>

> Godspeed!

> Alyssa 15 yo

> UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO

> illegal)

>

[Guest guest]

also McCormick's has cross contamination with gluten on it's lines

anyone know if Penzey's or Frontier are cassia or cinnamon????

eileen 20 months scd

>

> Alyssa,

>

> McCormick ground cinnamon is not really cinnamon -- it is cassia. I'm not

> sure whether cassia itself is illegal, but for some reason the spice

> companies in U.S. always add a starchy anti-caking ingredient to the cassia;

> so whether it's the cassia or the anti-caking ingredient I don't know, but

> it is illegal. I found a specialty store here in Iowa that sells real

> cinnamon. They told me that ever since World War I (or II, I forget), the

> U.S. has used cassia instead of cinnamon and has always been allowed to

> market it as cinnamon. If you're having symptoms, I would definitely cut

> the McCormick " cinnamon " out.

>

> Ann

>

> Re: cinnamon? (was 'rotation of foods')

> Posted by: " Alyssa Luck " luckycharms@... fruit_is_good

> Date: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:44 pm ((PDT))

>

> > In my case, I'm pretty sure it was the cinnamon I was using (who

> > knew default cinnamon in the U.S. was actually cassia? -- actually

> > someone from this list knew).

>

>

> Say whaaat??? I'm using McCormick ground cinnamon, and I just assumed

> it was okay. Should I look into this more?

>

> Godspeed!

> Alyssa 15 yo

> UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO

> illegal)

>

[Guest guest]

If you're having symptoms, I would definitely cut the McCormick "cinnamon" out. Lovely =) What type of cinnamon should I get? Godspeed!Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO illegal)

[Guest guest]

I've used both Frontier and Penzey's cinnamon without any problems. Penzey's has

a good description of its products on the website. Frontier is sold at Whole

Foods.

PJ

>

> > If you're having symptoms, I would definitely cut the McCormick

> > " cinnamon " out.

>

>

> Lovely =) What type of cinnamon should I get?

>

> Godspeed!

> Alyssa 15 yo

> UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO

> illegal)

>

[Guest guest]

Alyssa, McCormick ground cinnamon is not really cinnamon -- it is cassia. I'm not sure whether cassia itself is illegal, but for some reason the spice companies in U.S. always add a starchy anti-caking ingredient to the cassia; so whether it's the cassia or the anti-caking ingredient I don't know, but it is illegal. I found a specialty store here in Iowa that sells real cinnamon. They told me that ever since World War I (or II, I forget), the U.S. has used cassia instead of cinnamon and has always been allowed to market it as cinnamon. If you're having symptoms, I would definitely cut the McCormick "cinnamon" out. Ann Re: cinnamon? (was 'rotation of foods') Posted by: "Alyssa Luck" luckycharms@... fruit_is_good Date: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:44 pm ((PDT)So I went to look this up, having never heard of it. So cassia is a closely related species tocinnamon and most Americans here have probably been using this our entire lives, except when and ifwe've traveled or lived abroad. So I'm not that worried I guess. It's more problematic thatthe main source is China, because who knows what they do to their plants by way ofherbicides and pesticides and etc. But apparently, though cinnamon was known in the bible, it's origin (Sri Lanka) was unknown bythe Greeks and continuing on to the middle ages. And I found this charming story about where Cinnamon comes from from Herodotus in WIkipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CinnamonThrough the Middle Ages, the source of cinnamon was a mystery to the Western world. Marco Polo avoided precision on this score.[9] In Herodotus and other authors, Arabia was the source of cinnamon: giant Cinnamon birds collected the cinnamon sticks from an unknown land where the cinnamon trees grew, and used them to construct their nests; the Arabs employed a trick to obtain the sticks. This story was current as late as 1310 in Byzantium, although in the first century, Pliny the Elder had written that the traders had made this up in order to charge more. The first mention of the spice growing in Sri Lanka was inZakariya al-Qazwini's Athar al-bilad wa-akhbar al-‘ibad ("Monument of Places and History of God's Bondsmen") in about 1270.[10] This was followed shortly thereafter by of Montecorvino, in a letter of about 1292.[11]Indonesian rafts transported cinnamon (known in Indonesia as kayu manis- literally "sweet wood") on a "cinnamon route" directly from the Moluccas to East Africa, where local traders then carried it north to the Roman market.__Good for Pliny, I say. He wasn't taken in by false advertising and had some commonsense. And then there's this:http://homecooking.about.com/od/cookingfaqs/f/faqcassia.htmNative to Burma, cassia is botanically-known as Cinnamomum aromaticum or Cinnamomum cassia. It is a member of the same family as true cinnamon, but it has a stronger flavor thus requiring less in volume in recipes. Mara

[Guest guest]

Alyssa, McCormick ground cinnamon is not really cinnamon -- it is cassia. I'm not sure whether cassia itself is illegal, but for some reason the spice companies in U.S. always add a starchy anti-caking ingredient to the cassia; so whether it's the cassia or the anti-caking ingredient I don't know, but it is illegal. I found a specialty store here in Iowa that sells real cinnamon. They told me that ever since World War I (or II, I forget), the U.S. has used cassia instead of cinnamon and has always been allowed to market it as cinnamon. If you're having symptoms, I would definitely cut the McCormick "cinnamon" out. Ann Re: cinnamon? (was 'rotation of foods') Posted by: "Alyssa Luck" luckycharms@... fruit_is_good Date: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:44 pm ((PDT)So I went to look this up, having never heard of it. So cassia is a closely related species tocinnamon and most Americans here have probably been using this our entire lives, except when and ifwe've traveled or lived abroad. So I'm not that worried I guess. It's more problematic thatthe main source is China, because who knows what they do to their plants by way ofherbicides and pesticides and etc. But apparently, though cinnamon was known in the bible, it's origin (Sri Lanka) was unknown bythe Greeks and continuing on to the middle ages. And I found this charming story about where Cinnamon comes from from Herodotus in WIkipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CinnamonThrough the Middle Ages, the source of cinnamon was a mystery to the Western world. Marco Polo avoided precision on this score.[9] In Herodotus and other authors, Arabia was the source of cinnamon: giant Cinnamon birds collected the cinnamon sticks from an unknown land where the cinnamon trees grew, and used them to construct their nests; the Arabs employed a trick to obtain the sticks. This story was current as late as 1310 in Byzantium, although in the first century, Pliny the Elder had written that the traders had made this up in order to charge more. The first mention of the spice growing in Sri Lanka was inZakariya al-Qazwini's Athar al-bilad wa-akhbar al-‘ibad ("Monument of Places and History of God's Bondsmen") in about 1270.[10] This was followed shortly thereafter by of Montecorvino, in a letter of about 1292.[11]Indonesian rafts transported cinnamon (known in Indonesia as kayu manis- literally "sweet wood") on a "cinnamon route" directly from the Moluccas to East Africa, where local traders then carried it north to the Roman market.__Good for Pliny, I say. He wasn't taken in by false advertising and had some commonsense. And then there's this:http://homecooking.about.com/od/cookingfaqs/f/faqcassia.htmNative to Burma, cassia is botanically-known as Cinnamomum aromaticum or Cinnamomum cassia. It is a member of the same family as true cinnamon, but it has a stronger flavor thus requiring less in volume in recipes. Mara

[Guest guest]

Alyssa, McCormick ground cinnamon is not really cinnamon -- it is cassia. I'm not sure whether cassia itself is illegal, but for some reason the spice companies in U.S. always add a starchy anti-caking ingredient to the cassia; so whether it's the cassia or the anti-caking ingredient I don't know, but it is illegal. I found a specialty store here in Iowa that sells real cinnamon. They told me that ever since World War I (or II, I forget), the U.S. has used cassia instead of cinnamon and has always been allowed to market it as cinnamon. If you're having symptoms, I would definitely cut the McCormick "cinnamon" out. Ann Re: cinnamon? (was 'rotation of foods') Posted by: "Alyssa Luck" luckycharms@... fruit_is_good Date: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:44 pm ((PDT)So I went to look this up, having never heard of it. So cassia is a closely related species tocinnamon and most Americans here have probably been using this our entire lives, except when and ifwe've traveled or lived abroad. So I'm not that worried I guess. It's more problematic thatthe main source is China, because who knows what they do to their plants by way ofherbicides and pesticides and etc. But apparently, though cinnamon was known in the bible, it's origin (Sri Lanka) was unknown bythe Greeks and continuing on to the middle ages. And I found this charming story about where Cinnamon comes from from Herodotus in WIkipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CinnamonThrough the Middle Ages, the source of cinnamon was a mystery to the Western world. Marco Polo avoided precision on this score.[9] In Herodotus and other authors, Arabia was the source of cinnamon: giant Cinnamon birds collected the cinnamon sticks from an unknown land where the cinnamon trees grew, and used them to construct their nests; the Arabs employed a trick to obtain the sticks. This story was current as late as 1310 in Byzantium, although in the first century, Pliny the Elder had written that the traders had made this up in order to charge more. The first mention of the spice growing in Sri Lanka was inZakariya al-Qazwini's Athar al-bilad wa-akhbar al-‘ibad ("Monument of Places and History of God's Bondsmen") in about 1270.[10] This was followed shortly thereafter by of Montecorvino, in a letter of about 1292.[11]Indonesian rafts transported cinnamon (known in Indonesia as kayu manis- literally "sweet wood") on a "cinnamon route" directly from the Moluccas to East Africa, where local traders then carried it north to the Roman market.__Good for Pliny, I say. He wasn't taken in by false advertising and had some commonsense. And then there's this:http://homecooking.about.com/od/cookingfaqs/f/faqcassia.htmNative to Burma, cassia is botanically-known as Cinnamomum aromaticum or Cinnamomum cassia. It is a member of the same family as true cinnamon, but it has a stronger flavor thus requiring less in volume in recipes. Mara

[Guest guest]

Perhaps this information may help explain the types of cinnamon:

http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzeys/p-penzeyscinnamon.html

I use cassia cinnamon for some things, Korintje cinnamon for others.

And of course I buy Penzeys and have for years [grin].

Kim M.

SCD 5+ years

[Guest guest]

Perhaps this information may help explain the types of cinnamon:

http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzeys/p-penzeyscinnamon.html

I use cassia cinnamon for some things, Korintje cinnamon for others.

And of course I buy Penzeys and have for years [grin].

Kim M.

SCD 5+ years

[Guest guest]

Perhaps this information may help explain the types of cinnamon:

http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzeys/p-penzeyscinnamon.html

I use cassia cinnamon for some things, Korintje cinnamon for others.

And of course I buy Penzeys and have for years [grin].

Kim M.

SCD 5+ years

[Guest guest]

Penzey's is where I go (I didn't know it was a chain).  They assured me that they use real cinnamon, and never use any anti-caking ingredients.  I used their cinnamon for the first time last week, and had no problems.

 

Ann

 

Re: cinnamon? (was 'rotation of foods')   Posted by: " blackguitarmaker " autumn71a@... blackguitarmaker   Date: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:55 am ((PDT))

also McCormick's has cross contamination with gluten on it's linesanyone know if  Penzey's or Frontier are cassia or cinnamon????eileen 20 months scd

[Guest guest]

Penzey's is where I go (I didn't know it was a chain).  They assured me that they use real cinnamon, and never use any anti-caking ingredients.  I used their cinnamon for the first time last week, and had no problems.

 

Ann

 

Re: cinnamon? (was 'rotation of foods')   Posted by: " blackguitarmaker " autumn71a@... blackguitarmaker   Date: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:55 am ((PDT))

also McCormick's has cross contamination with gluten on it's linesanyone know if  Penzey's or Frontier are cassia or cinnamon????eileen 20 months scd

[Guest guest]

Penzey's is where I go (I didn't know it was a chain).  They assured me that they use real cinnamon, and never use any anti-caking ingredients.  I used their cinnamon for the first time last week, and had no problems.

 

Ann

 

Re: cinnamon? (was 'rotation of foods')   Posted by: " blackguitarmaker " autumn71a@... blackguitarmaker   Date: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:55 am ((PDT))

also McCormick's has cross contamination with gluten on it's linesanyone know if  Penzey's or Frontier are cassia or cinnamon????eileen 20 months scd

[Guest guest]

I even use generic ones with no probs but now I'm wondering if any of them are

cinnamon now???

eileen 20 months scd

> >

> > > If you're having symptoms, I would definitely cut the McCormick

> > > " cinnamon " out.

> >

> >

> > Lovely =) What type of cinnamon should I get?

> >

> > Godspeed!

> > Alyssa 15 yo

> > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> > SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> > No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO

> > illegal)

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I even use generic ones with no probs but now I'm wondering if any of them are

cinnamon now???

eileen 20 months scd

> >

> > > If you're having symptoms, I would definitely cut the McCormick

> > > " cinnamon " out.

> >

> >

> > Lovely =) What type of cinnamon should I get?

> >

> > Godspeed!

> > Alyssa 15 yo

> > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> > SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> > No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO

> > illegal)

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I even use generic ones with no probs but now I'm wondering if any of them are

cinnamon now???

eileen 20 months scd

> >

> > > If you're having symptoms, I would definitely cut the McCormick

> > > " cinnamon " out.

> >

> >

> > Lovely =) What type of cinnamon should I get?

> >

> > Godspeed!

> > Alyssa 15 yo

> > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> > SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> > No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO

> > illegal)

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I know Penzeys has both kinds of cinnamon. I haven't yet written to

them to see if they are legal, generally legal, etc. Though I don't

seem to have trouble with them.

Alyssa,

McCormick ground cinnamon is not really cinnamon -- it is cassia. I'm

not

sure whether cassia itself is illegal, but for some reason the spice

companies in U.S. always add a starchy anti-caking ingredient to the

cassia;

so whether it's the cassia or the anti-caking ingredient I don't

know, but

it is illegal. I found a specialty store here in Iowa that sells

real

cinnamon. They told me that ever since World War I (or II, I forget),

the

U.S. has used cassia instead of cinnamon and has always been allowed

to

market it as cinnamon. If you're having symptoms, I would definitely

cut

the McCormick " cinnamon " out.

Ann

[Guest guest]

I know Penzeys has both kinds of cinnamon. I haven't yet written to

them to see if they are legal, generally legal, etc. Though I don't

seem to have trouble with them.

Alyssa,

McCormick ground cinnamon is not really cinnamon -- it is cassia. I'm

not

sure whether cassia itself is illegal, but for some reason the spice

companies in U.S. always add a starchy anti-caking ingredient to the

cassia;

so whether it's the cassia or the anti-caking ingredient I don't

know, but

it is illegal. I found a specialty store here in Iowa that sells

real

cinnamon. They told me that ever since World War I (or II, I forget),

the

U.S. has used cassia instead of cinnamon and has always been allowed

to

market it as cinnamon. If you're having symptoms, I would definitely

cut

the McCormick " cinnamon " out.

Ann

[Guest guest]

I know Penzeys has both kinds of cinnamon. I haven't yet written to

them to see if they are legal, generally legal, etc. Though I don't

seem to have trouble with them.

Alyssa,

McCormick ground cinnamon is not really cinnamon -- it is cassia. I'm

not

sure whether cassia itself is illegal, but for some reason the spice

companies in U.S. always add a starchy anti-caking ingredient to the

cassia;

so whether it's the cassia or the anti-caking ingredient I don't

know, but

it is illegal. I found a specialty store here in Iowa that sells

real

cinnamon. They told me that ever since World War I (or II, I forget),

the

U.S. has used cassia instead of cinnamon and has always been allowed

to

market it as cinnamon. If you're having symptoms, I would definitely

cut

the McCormick " cinnamon " out.

Ann

[Guest guest]

Just read about the cinnamon issues. I happen to live practically around the

corner from the McCormick plant in Hunt Valley, land. I've been using

(calling them each time) a lot of their single spices in the gourmet collection,

one of which is the Saigon cinnamon. So, of course, I just called them again

1- and spoke to both Debbie and Helen. This is what I have learned:

Cassia is the bark from cinnamon trees. Cinnamon sticks are the bark from

cinnamon trees = cassia. In other words, she said, that their cinnamon is the

same as ground up cinnamon sticks. The Saigon cinnamon from Vietnam is

considered " the best " type. McCormick does not add any anti-caking additives

such as silicone dioxide in their single spices. They do wash down all

equipment in between runs and therefore can not 100% guarantee totally

gluten-free.

We have never had problems with their products. Has Penzey's guaranteed not

using any gluten products in their facilities or do they have a dedicated run

for single spices? Not sure what to do!!!!

-

Kaitlyn's Mom

CD 6/07, new doc says UC

SCD 9/07/07

med-free 9/7/08