Re: Rotation of foods

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Aiazeen

I needed to rotate my foods for the first two years on SCD due to extensive food sensitivities. I worked out a complicated schedule of what foods I could eat every other day or every second day or every third or once a week. I was unable to eat the same food every day. I was able to figure out my system easily since I was dealing with symptoms like hives and respiratory distress -- I didn't have to wait a few days to see how my lower GI behaved, just had to wait 30 minutes.... That undoubtedly made it easier...

I didn't wait until my symptoms were gone before moving on -- I just worked at keeping my symptoms as minimal as possible. Of course I wasn't dealing with bleeding or diarrhea, which might make a difference. Still, once I switched over to food rotation, my immune responses became less and less as the months went by, and my digestive symptoms also improved slowly.

I could eat meats and eggs every day without a reaction, but vegetables and fruits were problematic. It takes 3 to 4 days (or longer) for food to transit my digestive tract, so most of the difficult vegetables I could only tolerate once every 4 days. But there were a few vegetables I could eat every other day. Because I needed the variety, I ate some vegetables that were considered advanced. But because I was also dealing with candida, I had to stay away from the high-carb veggies, which was fine as my digestion wouldn't tolerate these anyway.

I wasn't eating much fruit at that time due to dealing with candida, so I just kept any fruit to one serving every other day; it didn't seem to matter if I had orange juice or apple juice or applesauce, as long as I waited a day between a serving.

Interestingly enough, now that I don't have to worry so much about food rotation, I find I still can't tolerate many of the permitted foods. I'm eating much the same foods, and still have to wait a day or two between servings of some of them. I've given up eating the high-carb veggies, can't eat dairy, and have a few other restrictions. But I can eat some vegetables every day, so I don't have to work so hard at rotating foods. I estimate I can only eat about 30 foods now, but that is so much better than the 4 foods when I began SCD and was suffering from severe pain and nausea and other symptoms.

Kim M.

SCD 5+ years

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Most recently someone posted what they are eating and how they are rotating foods every several days or so - they don't eat the same thing for more than two days. It got me thinking that maybe I have been so obsessed with getting the symptoms completely gone before moving on to another foods, that I have overlooked the fact that my gut will also react in some ways if I eat too much of same of the "safe" foods over and over and over and over again. If anyone can chime in on their process with symptoms and bringing in new foods and in particular success on the rotation diet, that sure would help me - I figured I might start to try more of a rotational diet. Thanks in advance for your inputaiazeen1 yr 2 mo SCDUC 6 years

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Aiazeen

I needed to rotate my foods for the first two years on SCD due to extensive food sensitivities. I worked out a complicated schedule of what foods I could eat every other day or every second day or every third or once a week. I was unable to eat the same food every day. I was able to figure out my system easily since I was dealing with symptoms like hives and respiratory distress -- I didn't have to wait a few days to see how my lower GI behaved, just had to wait 30 minutes.... That undoubtedly made it easier...

I didn't wait until my symptoms were gone before moving on -- I just worked at keeping my symptoms as minimal as possible. Of course I wasn't dealing with bleeding or diarrhea, which might make a difference. Still, once I switched over to food rotation, my immune responses became less and less as the months went by, and my digestive symptoms also improved slowly.

I could eat meats and eggs every day without a reaction, but vegetables and fruits were problematic. It takes 3 to 4 days (or longer) for food to transit my digestive tract, so most of the difficult vegetables I could only tolerate once every 4 days. But there were a few vegetables I could eat every other day. Because I needed the variety, I ate some vegetables that were considered advanced. But because I was also dealing with candida, I had to stay away from the high-carb veggies, which was fine as my digestion wouldn't tolerate these anyway.

I wasn't eating much fruit at that time due to dealing with candida, so I just kept any fruit to one serving every other day; it didn't seem to matter if I had orange juice or apple juice or applesauce, as long as I waited a day between a serving.

Interestingly enough, now that I don't have to worry so much about food rotation, I find I still can't tolerate many of the permitted foods. I'm eating much the same foods, and still have to wait a day or two between servings of some of them. I've given up eating the high-carb veggies, can't eat dairy, and have a few other restrictions. But I can eat some vegetables every day, so I don't have to work so hard at rotating foods. I estimate I can only eat about 30 foods now, but that is so much better than the 4 foods when I began SCD and was suffering from severe pain and nausea and other symptoms.

Kim M.

SCD 5+ years

>>>>>>>>>>>

Most recently someone posted what they are eating and how they are rotating foods every several days or so - they don't eat the same thing for more than two days. It got me thinking that maybe I have been so obsessed with getting the symptoms completely gone before moving on to another foods, that I have overlooked the fact that my gut will also react in some ways if I eat too much of same of the "safe" foods over and over and over and over again. If anyone can chime in on their process with symptoms and bringing in new foods and in particular success on the rotation diet, that sure would help me - I figured I might start to try more of a rotational diet. Thanks in advance for your inputaiazeen1 yr 2 mo SCDUC 6 years

[Guest guest]

Aiazeen

I needed to rotate my foods for the first two years on SCD due to extensive food sensitivities. I worked out a complicated schedule of what foods I could eat every other day or every second day or every third or once a week. I was unable to eat the same food every day. I was able to figure out my system easily since I was dealing with symptoms like hives and respiratory distress -- I didn't have to wait a few days to see how my lower GI behaved, just had to wait 30 minutes.... That undoubtedly made it easier...

I didn't wait until my symptoms were gone before moving on -- I just worked at keeping my symptoms as minimal as possible. Of course I wasn't dealing with bleeding or diarrhea, which might make a difference. Still, once I switched over to food rotation, my immune responses became less and less as the months went by, and my digestive symptoms also improved slowly.

I could eat meats and eggs every day without a reaction, but vegetables and fruits were problematic. It takes 3 to 4 days (or longer) for food to transit my digestive tract, so most of the difficult vegetables I could only tolerate once every 4 days. But there were a few vegetables I could eat every other day. Because I needed the variety, I ate some vegetables that were considered advanced. But because I was also dealing with candida, I had to stay away from the high-carb veggies, which was fine as my digestion wouldn't tolerate these anyway.

I wasn't eating much fruit at that time due to dealing with candida, so I just kept any fruit to one serving every other day; it didn't seem to matter if I had orange juice or apple juice or applesauce, as long as I waited a day between a serving.

Interestingly enough, now that I don't have to worry so much about food rotation, I find I still can't tolerate many of the permitted foods. I'm eating much the same foods, and still have to wait a day or two between servings of some of them. I've given up eating the high-carb veggies, can't eat dairy, and have a few other restrictions. But I can eat some vegetables every day, so I don't have to work so hard at rotating foods. I estimate I can only eat about 30 foods now, but that is so much better than the 4 foods when I began SCD and was suffering from severe pain and nausea and other symptoms.

Kim M.

SCD 5+ years

>>>>>>>>>>>

Most recently someone posted what they are eating and how they are rotating foods every several days or so - they don't eat the same thing for more than two days. It got me thinking that maybe I have been so obsessed with getting the symptoms completely gone before moving on to another foods, that I have overlooked the fact that my gut will also react in some ways if I eat too much of same of the "safe" foods over and over and over and over again. If anyone can chime in on their process with symptoms and bringing in new foods and in particular success on the rotation diet, that sure would help me - I figured I might start to try more of a rotational diet. Thanks in advance for your inputaiazeen1 yr 2 mo SCDUC 6 years

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Hi ,

I also tend to be a delayed reactor for all kinds of things to which I

am intolerant or allergic. There are a few things that I react to quickly,

and I'll know within 15 minutes of them hitting my stomach what's going to

happen.

But to detect more subtle intolerances can take days. I also have a

long history of becoming intolerant to foods, so I knew that the path of

healing had to include rotating foods so that I didn't get intolerant to the

few foods I can eat. If it makes you feel better, I'm down to 8 foods.

So what I do is have 1 protein source and 1 carb source per day, e.g.

today is chicken, broth and acorn squash day. Tomorrow will be beef and

zucchini day.

That way I have 4 days between each food. From what I've read, you need

3-4 days for a food to leave your system.

From this system I figured out broccoli was beginning to bother me,

though I ate it for months without any obvious problem.

If I had had more foods in a day, I'd never be able to figure out a

potential problem.

I'm hoping that I can add in 2 more foods so that I can go back to a 5

day rotation, because that means I can more easily mix the combos.

So, today I'm cheering, Swiss Chard, Swiss Chard, Swiss Chard :-)

HTH,

Sue R

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I also tend to be a delayed reactor for all kinds of things to which I

am intolerant or allergic. There are a few things that I react to quickly,

and I'll know within 15 minutes of them hitting my stomach what's going to

happen.

But to detect more subtle intolerances can take days. I also have a

long history of becoming intolerant to foods, so I knew that the path of

healing had to include rotating foods so that I didn't get intolerant to the

few foods I can eat. If it makes you feel better, I'm down to 8 foods.

So what I do is have 1 protein source and 1 carb source per day, e.g.

today is chicken, broth and acorn squash day. Tomorrow will be beef and

zucchini day.

That way I have 4 days between each food. From what I've read, you need

3-4 days for a food to leave your system.

From this system I figured out broccoli was beginning to bother me,

though I ate it for months without any obvious problem.

If I had had more foods in a day, I'd never be able to figure out a

potential problem.

I'm hoping that I can add in 2 more foods so that I can go back to a 5

day rotation, because that means I can more easily mix the combos.

So, today I'm cheering, Swiss Chard, Swiss Chard, Swiss Chard :-)

HTH,

Sue R

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I also tend to be a delayed reactor for all kinds of things to which I

am intolerant or allergic. There are a few things that I react to quickly,

and I'll know within 15 minutes of them hitting my stomach what's going to

happen.

But to detect more subtle intolerances can take days. I also have a

long history of becoming intolerant to foods, so I knew that the path of

healing had to include rotating foods so that I didn't get intolerant to the

few foods I can eat. If it makes you feel better, I'm down to 8 foods.

So what I do is have 1 protein source and 1 carb source per day, e.g.

today is chicken, broth and acorn squash day. Tomorrow will be beef and

zucchini day.

That way I have 4 days between each food. From what I've read, you need

3-4 days for a food to leave your system.

From this system I figured out broccoli was beginning to bother me,

though I ate it for months without any obvious problem.

If I had had more foods in a day, I'd never be able to figure out a

potential problem.

I'm hoping that I can add in 2 more foods so that I can go back to a 5

day rotation, because that means I can more easily mix the combos.

So, today I'm cheering, Swiss Chard, Swiss Chard, Swiss Chard :-)

HTH,

Sue R

[Guest guest]

Aiazeen,

 

I'm only a few months ahead of you (18 months on the diet) and I've just recently begun to feel like I might actually be having days with no symptoms of my UC at all.  I haven't studied this at all, but my experience has actually been lately, that sticking to a same (rather than rotated) diet is helping me.  I've been eating banana pancakes for breakfast, two toasted muffins with cheese for lunch, and apple or two for a snack (peeled), and spinach with spaghetti sauce and cheddar cheese for dinner.  As long as I stick with this diet, I have no bleeding, and have a nicely formed bowel movement every day.  When I stray from my routine, I'm luckily almost never having bleeding, but I may go a few days without a bowel movement.  (constipation has always been my main problem, so it continues to haunt me -- but a mere shadow of its past severity).  Through my whole first year of the diet I stuck with a pretty routine diet as well, but I realized that I had a few hidden illegals in it that probably delayed healing.  In my case, I'm pretty sure it was the cinnamon I was using (who knew default cinnamon in the U.S. was actually cassia? -- actually someone from this list knew).  I think my beloved Welch's grape juice was also a problem for me.  I now drink Knudsen's Just Black Currant (I love raspberries, and this is close).  I usually mix it with a little honey and water it way down with sparkling water to get a very soda-like drink that I love.  So anyway, this is just my experience so far.

 

Ann

SCD since 03/2008

 

 

2. Rotation of foods   Posted by: " A " aiazeen@... aiazeen   Date: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:03 pm ((PDT))

So here it has been one year and two months on SCD.  I only eat about 30 ingredients.  My symptoms never completely go away it seems.  I think I can say with authority that it take 2 sometimes up to three days for things to process through my gut, so sometimes I have these delayed reactions to things.  Most recently someone posted what they are eating and how they are rotating foods every several days or so - they don't eat the same thing for more than two days.  It got me thinking that maybe I have been so obsessed with getting the symptoms completely gone before moving on to another foods, that I have overlooked the fact that my gut will also react in some ways if I eat too much of same of the " safe " foods over and over and over and over again.  If anyone can chime in on their process with symptoms and bringing in new foods and in particular success on the rotation diet, that sure would help me - I figured I might start to try more of a rotational diet.  Thanks in advance for your input

aiazeen1 yr 2 mo SCDUC 6 yearsAsacol 800 mg 3x/dayImipramine 30 mg per nt