Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 HI, in response to pre-op eating , i am doing the same thing and feel terribly guilty about eating everything i love that i have forced myself not too for years, but i too feel like i might never be able to again. karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Micky, I did that! The entire time, I kept reminding myself that I could certainly eat these things postop and I was being silly, but I did it anyway. Seems pretty normal to me. I am now 10 days postop and nothing sounds good, not even those favorites I was so sure I had to have! Dawna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Hi, I'm new to this list. I'm having open DS on May 15. I'm very excited but scared, too. I was wondering, of those of you that had open DS what was your diet like pre-op? I find that suddenly I'm eating all my favorites in a panic that I'll never be able to eat them again. Did anyone else experience this? Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 I was the VERY same way as a pre-op. I was eating like there was no tomorrow. For the first time since I was 12, I didn't give a crap about calories or fat grams. I just ate. Then I felt guilty because I knew that I shouldn't be gaining weight prior to surgery, I should be losing! I sent out an e-mail to this group at about 3 weeks pre-op saying that I was already mourning the loss of food. I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to eat the things I loved and I LOVED FOOD!!!! I ate cakes and Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream - you name it! I was assured by some wonderful people that everything would be OK. I am now two months post-op and when I look back I know that I needed to go through that phase. I have lost 43.5 pounds in two months. I know it is hard to believe but food is just not important to me anymore. I truly eat to live - not live to eat. I really don't mourn the food I used to enjoy because it no longer tastes the same to me and so it is hard to mourn what doesn't taste good. It is also fun to not really care how much fat is in a food. Most of it passes, so I just enjoy. I really believe your actions are normal. I look forward to meeting you on the other side! in IL Dr. Lap DS 2/28/01 -43.5 pounds In a message dated 4/30/2001 12:26:40 PM Central Daylight Time, Happy2knowU2@... writes: << HI, in response to pre-op eating , i am doing the same thing and feel terribly guilty about eating everything i love that i have forced myself not too for years, but i too feel like i might never be able to again. karen >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 I find that suddenly I'm eating all my favorites in a panic that I'll never be able to eat them again. Did anyone else experience this? > Micky As a pre-op pasta was my favorite food, anything with Alfredo sauce oh baby! Of corse I had huge portions, that was part of the pasta experience. I haven't eaten much pasta, somehow it doesn't hold the same place as it did pre-op, I can eat it I just choose not to. I don't know how to explain it. I think I would feel terrible if I wanted to eat something and couldn't. Food still taste the same, I just crave different foods. I am not lactose intolorant though, you may be different. Now chinese food yum yum yum. I eat much less at a meal but I enjoy it just as much as pre-op. A couple of weeks before my surgery EVERYBODY I knew took me out for a last meal. I found my self eating as much as I could, but I can't say that I really enjoyed it as much in that " frenzy last meal stage " . I guess I was amazed that so many people actually told me " Now Teri eat as much as you want " ME! people telling me to eat more. Don't worry that you will never enjoy your favorite foods again. Food will just have a different value than it does pre-op. Just make sure that you get your protein first. Teri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Well, it looks like this is a normal thing to go through. I'm glad I'm not the only one! Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html Re: Pre-op Eating HI, in response to pre-op eating , i am doing the same thing and feel terribly guilty about eating everything i love that i have forced myself not too for years, but i too feel like i might never be able to again. karen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Well, it looks like this is a normal thing to go through. I'm glad I'm not the only one! Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html Re: Pre-op Eating HI, in response to pre-op eating , i am doing the same thing and feel terribly guilty about eating everything i love that i have forced myself not too for years, but i too feel like i might never be able to again. karen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Well, it looks like this is a normal thing to go through. I'm glad I'm not the only one! Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html Re: Pre-op Eating HI, in response to pre-op eating , i am doing the same thing and feel terribly guilty about eating everything i love that i have forced myself not too for years, but i too feel like i might never be able to again. karen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 That's what I've heard alot. That after surgery you lose you cravings and don't think about food all the time. That will be nice! How are you feeling physically? Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html Re: Pre-op Eating Micky,I did that! The entire time, I kept reminding myself that I could certainly eat these things postop and I was being silly, but I did it anyway. Seems pretty normal to me.I am now 10 days postop and nothing sounds good, not even those favorites I was so sure I had to have!Dawna---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Thanks, Teri! I love fettuccini alfredo, too! The first thing we did when we moved here was find a good restaurant that had it! LOL! You all have been so helpful. I don't feel like a pig now when I eat! Thanks! Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html Re: Pre-op Eating I find that suddenly I'm eating all my favorites in a panic that I'll never be able to eat them again. Did anyone else experience this?> MickyAs a pre-op pasta was my favorite food, anything with Alfredo sauce oh baby! Of corse I had huge portions, that was part of the pasta experience. I haven't eaten much pasta, somehow it doesn't hold the same place as it did pre-op, I can eat it I just choose not to. I don't know how to explain it. I think I would feel terrible if I wanted to eat something and couldn't. Food still taste the same, I just crave different foods. I am not lactose intolorant though, you may be different. Now chinese food yum yum yum. I eat much less at a meal but I enjoy it just as much as pre-op. A couple of weeks before my surgery EVERYBODY I knew took me out for a last meal. I found my self eating as much as I could, but I can't say that I really enjoyed it as much in that "frenzy last meal stage". I guess I was amazed that so many people actually told me "Now Teri eat as much as you want" ME! people telling me to eat more.Don't worry that you will never enjoy your favorite foods again. Food will just have a different value than it does pre-op. Just make sure that you get your protein first.Teri---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Thanks, . I'm looking forward to not thinking about food every minute of the day! If that happens I'll consider the surgery a success! Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html Re: Pre-op Eating I was the VERY same way as a pre-op. I was eating like there was no tomorrow. For the first time since I was 12, I didn't give a crap about calories or fat grams. I just ate. Then I felt guilty because I knew that I shouldn't be gaining weight prior to surgery, I should be losing! I sent out an e-mail to this group at about 3 weeks pre-op saying that I was already mourning the loss of food. I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to eat the things I loved and I LOVED FOOD!!!! I ate cakes and Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream - you name it! I was assured by some wonderful people that everything would be OK.I am now two months post-op and when I look back I know that I needed to go through that phase. I have lost 43.5 pounds in two months. I know it is hard to believe but food is just not important to me anymore. I truly eat to live - not live to eat. I really don't mourn the food I used to enjoy because it no longer tastes the same to me and so it is hard to mourn what doesn't taste good.It is also fun to not really care how much fat is in a food. Most of it passes, so I just enjoy.I really believe your actions are normal. I look forward to meeting you on the other side! in ILDr. Lap DS 2/28/01-43.5 pounds<< HI, in response to pre-op eating , i am doing the same thing and feel terribly guilty about eating everything i love that i have forced myself not too for years, but i too feel like i might never be able to again. karen >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Thanks, . I'm looking forward to not thinking about food every minute of the day! If that happens I'll consider the surgery a success! Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html Re: Pre-op Eating I was the VERY same way as a pre-op. I was eating like there was no tomorrow. For the first time since I was 12, I didn't give a crap about calories or fat grams. I just ate. Then I felt guilty because I knew that I shouldn't be gaining weight prior to surgery, I should be losing! I sent out an e-mail to this group at about 3 weeks pre-op saying that I was already mourning the loss of food. I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to eat the things I loved and I LOVED FOOD!!!! I ate cakes and Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream - you name it! I was assured by some wonderful people that everything would be OK.I am now two months post-op and when I look back I know that I needed to go through that phase. I have lost 43.5 pounds in two months. I know it is hard to believe but food is just not important to me anymore. I truly eat to live - not live to eat. I really don't mourn the food I used to enjoy because it no longer tastes the same to me and so it is hard to mourn what doesn't taste good.It is also fun to not really care how much fat is in a food. Most of it passes, so I just enjoy.I really believe your actions are normal. I look forward to meeting you on the other side! in ILDr. Lap DS 2/28/01-43.5 pounds<< HI, in response to pre-op eating , i am doing the same thing and feel terribly guilty about eating everything i love that i have forced myself not too for years, but i too feel like i might never be able to again. karen >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Mickey: I would strongly urge you to back off. Do as I say, not as I did. Like you, most of us, me included, ate everything not nailed down before our surgery. I did what the surgeon ordered and lost about 20 pounds. Then in the two weeks before surgery I put every bit of it back on. There is a syndrome called abdominal compartment syndrome. The excess fat in our gut puts constant pressure on our organs. Being used to it we can handle it far better than the skinny people. This is called chronic ACS. Not healthy but common among us morbidly obese. Now comes surgery. Acute abdominal compartment syndrome. BAD NEWS! There is more swelling, sometimes a lot more. If we have lost 15 to 25 pounds before there is a plenty of room to accommodate the swelling. But in my case I had gained the weight back and there wasn't a lot of extra room. And I paid the price. At one point during my recovery there was an accumulation of fluid in my gut. The tissues were swelling badly. The fluid was putting on additional pressure. And my organs began shutting down. My blood pressure was 40/20. The surgeons did an emergency draining of fluid in my bariatric bed in the ICU. They didn't have time to get me to an operating room. Dr. Deveny said that had they not drained the fluid it would have been impossible to save me ten minutes later. Dr. Welker said he agreed but probably five minutes was a better guess. This doesn't happen to very many people. But I implore you to try - VERY HARD - to lose some weight going into surgery. Trust me, you WILL be able to eat absolutely everything afterwards you can eat now, just not as much. And maybe not right away. It may take 3 or even 6 months. But it will happen. I cooked a prime rib last week with my famous gravy that absolutely blows everyone away - myself included. It was just as good as it has ever been but I simply didn't eat very much of it. But great leftovers. I know you don't have much time but try very hard to at least not put on more weight before the 15th. Regards. Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 250http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html Pre-op Eating Hi, I'm new to this list. I'm having open DS on May 15. I'm very excited but scared, too. I was wondering, of those of you that had open DS what was your diet like pre-op? I find that suddenly I'm eating all my favorites in a panic that I'll never be able to eat them again. Did anyone else experience this? Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Mickey: I would strongly urge you to back off. Do as I say, not as I did. Like you, most of us, me included, ate everything not nailed down before our surgery. I did what the surgeon ordered and lost about 20 pounds. Then in the two weeks before surgery I put every bit of it back on. There is a syndrome called abdominal compartment syndrome. The excess fat in our gut puts constant pressure on our organs. Being used to it we can handle it far better than the skinny people. This is called chronic ACS. Not healthy but common among us morbidly obese. Now comes surgery. Acute abdominal compartment syndrome. BAD NEWS! There is more swelling, sometimes a lot more. If we have lost 15 to 25 pounds before there is a plenty of room to accommodate the swelling. But in my case I had gained the weight back and there wasn't a lot of extra room. And I paid the price. At one point during my recovery there was an accumulation of fluid in my gut. The tissues were swelling badly. The fluid was putting on additional pressure. And my organs began shutting down. My blood pressure was 40/20. The surgeons did an emergency draining of fluid in my bariatric bed in the ICU. They didn't have time to get me to an operating room. Dr. Deveny said that had they not drained the fluid it would have been impossible to save me ten minutes later. Dr. Welker said he agreed but probably five minutes was a better guess. This doesn't happen to very many people. But I implore you to try - VERY HARD - to lose some weight going into surgery. Trust me, you WILL be able to eat absolutely everything afterwards you can eat now, just not as much. And maybe not right away. It may take 3 or even 6 months. But it will happen. I cooked a prime rib last week with my famous gravy that absolutely blows everyone away - myself included. It was just as good as it has ever been but I simply didn't eat very much of it. But great leftovers. I know you don't have much time but try very hard to at least not put on more weight before the 15th. Regards. Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 250http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html Pre-op Eating Hi, I'm new to this list. I'm having open DS on May 15. I'm very excited but scared, too. I was wondering, of those of you that had open DS what was your diet like pre-op? I find that suddenly I'm eating all my favorites in a panic that I'll never be able to eat them again. Did anyone else experience this? Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Mickey: I had my consult on jan 10 and surgery on April 5. i gained 15 lbs!!! i had tons of " last suppers! " Now, i think i even gained more, but lost some weight the last 2 weeks prior to surgery when i was fed up and did no fat, no carbs, high protein. It was acrazy emotional thing for me. i could not stop it. Dont stress! take care, jill K in Ny 25 days post op -30 lbs __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Mickey: I had my consult on jan 10 and surgery on April 5. i gained 15 lbs!!! i had tons of " last suppers! " Now, i think i even gained more, but lost some weight the last 2 weeks prior to surgery when i was fed up and did no fat, no carbs, high protein. It was acrazy emotional thing for me. i could not stop it. Dont stress! take care, jill K in Ny 25 days post op -30 lbs __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 That's how I feel! One minute I want everything I can think of and the next I'm sick of food! I'm glad this is common and I'm not the only one! Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html Re: Pre-op Eating Mickey:I had my consult on jan 10 and surgery on April 5. igained 15 lbs!!! i had tons of "last suppers!" Now, ithink i even gained more, but lost some weight thelast 2 weeks prior to surgery when i was fed up anddid no fat, no carbs, high protein. It was acrazyemotional thing for me. i could not stop it. Dontstress!take care,jill K in Ny25 days post op-30 lbs__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 That's how I feel! One minute I want everything I can think of and the next I'm sick of food! I'm glad this is common and I'm not the only one! Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html Re: Pre-op Eating Mickey:I had my consult on jan 10 and surgery on April 5. igained 15 lbs!!! i had tons of "last suppers!" Now, ithink i even gained more, but lost some weight thelast 2 weeks prior to surgery when i was fed up anddid no fat, no carbs, high protein. It was acrazyemotional thing for me. i could not stop it. Dontstress!take care,jill K in Ny25 days post op-30 lbs__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 That's how I feel! One minute I want everything I can think of and the next I'm sick of food! I'm glad this is common and I'm not the only one! Mickyco-owner KoalityKare "Quality childcare isn't expensive. It's priceless."http://www.homestead.com/koalitykare/KoalityKare.html Re: Pre-op Eating Mickey:I had my consult on jan 10 and surgery on April 5. igained 15 lbs!!! i had tons of "last suppers!" Now, ithink i even gained more, but lost some weight thelast 2 weeks prior to surgery when i was fed up anddid no fat, no carbs, high protein. It was acrazyemotional thing for me. i could not stop it. Dontstress!take care,jill K in Ny25 days post op-30 lbs__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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