Guest guest Posted April 14, 2001 Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 I asked Dr. Welker about drinking carbonated beverages and he asked if I was able to burp. I said yes and he smiled and went on to the next question. I don't enjoy drinking lots of carbonated beverages but gas build up simply isn't a problem if I can burp. If I held my breath for 20 minutes as in Dr. K's balloon illustration it could be a problem. Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart San , TX, 60 years old Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch 340 starting weight, currently 260 http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html Soda or No Soda > Dr. Keshishian does not recommend carbonated drinks of any kind post- > op. He gave a visual example for his reasoning. Take a balloon and > pour some carbonated drink into the balloon and tie a knot at te > neck. Allow the balloon to set at room temperature for awhile. You > will qickly notice that the balloon will begin to enlarge. As the > carbonated bubbles begin to pop, the air in the balloon increases, > thereby stretching the balloon. > > The same will occur in your new stomach. In the early weeks it is > very important to avoid stretching your stomach. Stretching can > cause leaks, followed by additional surgery to repair the leaks. > > If you are really craving a soda, pour it over ice and let stand for > awhile, allowing the carbonation to reduce. You might also take > GasEx (or any other simethecone) prior to drinking a soda. It should > be able to dissipate of carbonation more quickly.\ > > Good luck and be careful. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2001 Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 In a message dated 04/14/2001 9:05:18 PM Central Daylight Time, true@... writes: << I will ask my doctor, Dr. Keshishian, why he made a false comparison! I find it totally out of character for a fine man and surgeon. Perhaps he has some reasoning behind his statements you are unaware of. Deanna True >> I wouldn't say it is a false comparison. I would say it is an analogy that has somewhat of a flaw. I think he still must feel that in general carbonation can be hard on our new stomachs. Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2001 Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 In a message dated 04/14/2001 9:05:18 PM Central Daylight Time, true@... writes: << I will ask my doctor, Dr. Keshishian, why he made a false comparison! I find it totally out of character for a fine man and surgeon. Perhaps he has some reasoning behind his statements you are unaware of. Deanna True >> I wouldn't say it is a false comparison. I would say it is an analogy that has somewhat of a flaw. I think he still must feel that in general carbonation can be hard on our new stomachs. Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2001 Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 Dr. Anthone and Dr. Crookes also against us drinking sodas because to tummy expansion, especially when we are in our " weight loss window " and I mean this for diet and caffeine free. Regular is a total no-no. Love, Marisa Dr. Anthone 5'3 " BMI 45 256# Surgery 11/17/00 11/17/00 - 256# 12/17/00 - 222# 1/17/01 - 206# 2/17/01 - 193# 3/17/01 - 184# 4/14/01 - 173# 83# gone FOREVER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2001 Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 The stomach is open at the top and the released air can and does come out as a burp. Many DS folks sip on carbonated drinks. False comparison-- the stomach with a tied off balloon. The suture line in the stomach isn't that fragile after a couple of weeks. Of greater concern might be the effect of carbonated drinks on calcium. in Seattle DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 4/5/01 240# BMI 38 Dr Welker - OHSU ----- Original Message ----- > Dr. Keshishian does not recommend carbonated drinks of any kind post- > op. He gave a visual example for his reasoning. Take a balloon and > pour some carbonated drink into the balloon and tie a knot at te > neck. Allow the balloon to set at room temperature for awhile. You > will qickly notice that the balloon will begin to enlarge. As the > carbonated bubbles begin to pop, the air in the balloon increases, > thereby stretching the balloon. > > The same will occur in your new stomach. In the early weeks it is > very important to avoid stretching your stomach. Stretching can > cause leaks, followed by additional surgery to repair the leaks. > > If you are really craving a soda, pour it over ice and let stand for > awhile, allowing the carbonation to reduce. You might also take > GasEx (or any other simethecone) prior to drinking a soda. It should > be able to dissipate of carbonation more quickly.\ > > Good luck and be careful. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2001 Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 , My doctor is a wonderful man who would never be upset because I ask him a question. He would be more upset about someone saying his examples are " false comparisons. " Deanna True 02-15-01 Open BPD/DS Dr. Keshishian 300 lbs./ BMI 49 pre-surgery 253 lbs./ BMI 40 8 weeks post-op WOW 47 pounds gone forever !!!!!!! Re: Soda or No Soda > Are you sure that you want to be confrontational with your doctor? He is a > fine surgeon according to all the reports. No need to require perfection. > I certainly hope my patients don't demand that from me. Healthcare > providers sometimes use imperfect examples to help the other person > understand. > > in Seattle > DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 > 4/5/01 240# BMI 38 > Dr Welker - OHSU > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > I will ask my doctor, Dr. Keshishian, why he made a false comparison! I > find > > it totally out of character for a fine man and surgeon. Perhaps he has > some > > reasoning behind his statements you are unaware of. > > Deanna True > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > The stomach is open at the top and the released air can and does come > out > > as > > > a burp. > > > Many DS folks sip on carbonated drinks. False comparison-- the stomach > > with > > > a tied off balloon. The suture line in the stomach isn't that fragile > > after > > > a couple of weeks. Of greater concern might be the effect of carbonated > > > drinks on calcium. > > > > > > in Seattle > > > DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 > > > 4/5/01 240# BMI 38 > > > Dr Welker - OHSU > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Keshishian does not recommend carbonated drinks of any kind post- > > > > op. He gave a visual example for his reasoning. Take a balloon and > > > > pour some carbonated drink into the balloon and tie a knot at te > > > > neck. Allow the balloon to set at room temperature for awhile. You > > > > will qickly notice that the balloon will begin to enlarge. As the > > > > carbonated bubbles begin to pop, the air in the balloon increases, > > > > thereby stretching the balloon. > > > > > > > > The same will occur in your new stomach. In the early weeks it is > > > > very important to avoid stretching your stomach. Stretching can > > > > cause leaks, followed by additional surgery to repair the leaks. > > > > > > > > If you are really craving a soda, pour it over ice and let stand for > > > > awhile, allowing the carbonation to reduce. You might also take > > > > GasEx (or any other simethecone) prior to drinking a soda. It should > > > > be able to dissipate of carbonation more quickly.\ > > > > > > > > Good luck and be careful. > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2001 Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 : I couldn't agree more. Every surgeon has different suggestions and requirements. I think it's important to ask all the questions and decide if you can live with them BEFORE you have surgery. If your surgeon says no soda then you have to decide whether you want to live with the restriction, ignore it or argue with them about it. I'd suggest that the third option does not make much sense. I'm sure Dr. Keshishian has good reasons to make his recommendations. I may not agree with them but he is the surgeon, not me. Regards. Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart San , TX, 60 years old Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch 340 starting weight, currently 260 http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html Re: Soda or No Soda > Are you sure that you want to be confrontational with your doctor? He is a > fine surgeon according to all the reports. No need to require perfection. > I certainly hope my patients don't demand that from me. Healthcare > providers sometimes use imperfect examples to help the other person > understand. > > in Seattle > DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 > 4/5/01 240# BMI 38 > Dr Welker - OHSU > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > I will ask my doctor, Dr. Keshishian, why he made a false comparison! I > find > > it totally out of character for a fine man and surgeon. Perhaps he has > some > > reasoning behind his statements you are unaware of. > > Deanna True > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > The stomach is open at the top and the released air can and does come > out > > as > > > a burp. > > > Many DS folks sip on carbonated drinks. False comparison-- the stomach > > with > > > a tied off balloon. The suture line in the stomach isn't that fragile > > after > > > a couple of weeks. Of greater concern might be the effect of carbonated > > > drinks on calcium. > > > > > > in Seattle > > > DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 > > > 4/5/01 240# BMI 38 > > > Dr Welker - OHSU > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Keshishian does not recommend carbonated drinks of any kind post- > > > > op. He gave a visual example for his reasoning. Take a balloon and > > > > pour some carbonated drink into the balloon and tie a knot at te > > > > neck. Allow the balloon to set at room temperature for awhile. You > > > > will qickly notice that the balloon will begin to enlarge. As the > > > > carbonated bubbles begin to pop, the air in the balloon increases, > > > > thereby stretching the balloon. > > > > > > > > The same will occur in your new stomach. In the early weeks it is > > > > very important to avoid stretching your stomach. Stretching can > > > > cause leaks, followed by additional surgery to repair the leaks. > > > > > > > > If you are really craving a soda, pour it over ice and let stand for > > > > awhile, allowing the carbonation to reduce. You might also take > > > > GasEx (or any other simethecone) prior to drinking a soda. It should > > > > be able to dissipate of carbonation more quickly.\ > > > > > > > > Good luck and be careful. > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2001 Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 : I couldn't agree more. Every surgeon has different suggestions and requirements. I think it's important to ask all the questions and decide if you can live with them BEFORE you have surgery. If your surgeon says no soda then you have to decide whether you want to live with the restriction, ignore it or argue with them about it. I'd suggest that the third option does not make much sense. I'm sure Dr. Keshishian has good reasons to make his recommendations. I may not agree with them but he is the surgeon, not me. Regards. Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart San , TX, 60 years old Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch 340 starting weight, currently 260 http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html Re: Soda or No Soda > Are you sure that you want to be confrontational with your doctor? He is a > fine surgeon according to all the reports. No need to require perfection. > I certainly hope my patients don't demand that from me. Healthcare > providers sometimes use imperfect examples to help the other person > understand. > > in Seattle > DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 > 4/5/01 240# BMI 38 > Dr Welker - OHSU > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > I will ask my doctor, Dr. Keshishian, why he made a false comparison! I > find > > it totally out of character for a fine man and surgeon. Perhaps he has > some > > reasoning behind his statements you are unaware of. > > Deanna True > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > The stomach is open at the top and the released air can and does come > out > > as > > > a burp. > > > Many DS folks sip on carbonated drinks. False comparison-- the stomach > > with > > > a tied off balloon. The suture line in the stomach isn't that fragile > > after > > > a couple of weeks. Of greater concern might be the effect of carbonated > > > drinks on calcium. > > > > > > in Seattle > > > DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 > > > 4/5/01 240# BMI 38 > > > Dr Welker - OHSU > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Keshishian does not recommend carbonated drinks of any kind post- > > > > op. He gave a visual example for his reasoning. Take a balloon and > > > > pour some carbonated drink into the balloon and tie a knot at te > > > > neck. Allow the balloon to set at room temperature for awhile. You > > > > will qickly notice that the balloon will begin to enlarge. As the > > > > carbonated bubbles begin to pop, the air in the balloon increases, > > > > thereby stretching the balloon. > > > > > > > > The same will occur in your new stomach. In the early weeks it is > > > > very important to avoid stretching your stomach. Stretching can > > > > cause leaks, followed by additional surgery to repair the leaks. > > > > > > > > If you are really craving a soda, pour it over ice and let stand for > > > > awhile, allowing the carbonation to reduce. You might also take > > > > GasEx (or any other simethecone) prior to drinking a soda. It should > > > > be able to dissipate of carbonation more quickly.\ > > > > > > > > Good luck and be careful. > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2001 Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 : I couldn't agree more. Every surgeon has different suggestions and requirements. I think it's important to ask all the questions and decide if you can live with them BEFORE you have surgery. If your surgeon says no soda then you have to decide whether you want to live with the restriction, ignore it or argue with them about it. I'd suggest that the third option does not make much sense. I'm sure Dr. Keshishian has good reasons to make his recommendations. I may not agree with them but he is the surgeon, not me. Regards. Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart San , TX, 60 years old Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch 340 starting weight, currently 260 http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html Re: Soda or No Soda > Are you sure that you want to be confrontational with your doctor? He is a > fine surgeon according to all the reports. No need to require perfection. > I certainly hope my patients don't demand that from me. Healthcare > providers sometimes use imperfect examples to help the other person > understand. > > in Seattle > DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 > 4/5/01 240# BMI 38 > Dr Welker - OHSU > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > I will ask my doctor, Dr. Keshishian, why he made a false comparison! I > find > > it totally out of character for a fine man and surgeon. Perhaps he has > some > > reasoning behind his statements you are unaware of. > > Deanna True > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > The stomach is open at the top and the released air can and does come > out > > as > > > a burp. > > > Many DS folks sip on carbonated drinks. False comparison-- the stomach > > with > > > a tied off balloon. The suture line in the stomach isn't that fragile > > after > > > a couple of weeks. Of greater concern might be the effect of carbonated > > > drinks on calcium. > > > > > > in Seattle > > > DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 > > > 4/5/01 240# BMI 38 > > > Dr Welker - OHSU > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Keshishian does not recommend carbonated drinks of any kind post- > > > > op. He gave a visual example for his reasoning. Take a balloon and > > > > pour some carbonated drink into the balloon and tie a knot at te > > > > neck. Allow the balloon to set at room temperature for awhile. You > > > > will qickly notice that the balloon will begin to enlarge. As the > > > > carbonated bubbles begin to pop, the air in the balloon increases, > > > > thereby stretching the balloon. > > > > > > > > The same will occur in your new stomach. In the early weeks it is > > > > very important to avoid stretching your stomach. Stretching can > > > > cause leaks, followed by additional surgery to repair the leaks. > > > > > > > > If you are really craving a soda, pour it over ice and let stand for > > > > awhile, allowing the carbonation to reduce. You might also take > > > > GasEx (or any other simethecone) prior to drinking a soda. It should > > > > be able to dissipate of carbonation more quickly.\ > > > > > > > > Good luck and be careful. > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 Hi Gang: Just for a little FYI and to show once again how much doctors differ I offer this. Right along with my first meal, that was day 4 and was a full leg and thigh of roasted chicken, dressing, mashed potatoes, some kind of veggie, salad, soup and desert and to drink...7-up and it wasn't diet either. Dr. A feels that we should get started back on regular food as soon as possible and as we are truly only taking tiny taste and baby sips he says that soda does not harm us, I know it gave me no problems at all and after all we are flushing out our feeding tubes with coke and also not the diet stuff as it does not work like the real thang! Huggles, Tiger Lake Female 160 lbs. BMI 21.7 224lbs gone 165 1/2 inches gone 6' -- 53yrs young Dr. Anthone@USC So. Calif. Open DS Surgery 1/13/99 384lbs BMI 51.21 Last Visit 4/20/99 315.5 BMI 42.07 7/19/99 274.8 BMI 36.64 9/03/99 259.3 BMI 34.54 10/04/99 252.4 BMI 34.02 10/25/99 231 BMI 32 12/17/99 217.5 BMI 30.2 01/19/00 211 BMI 28 02/20/00 195 BMI 26 04/08/00 182.9 BMI 25 06/07/00 160 BMI 21.7 01/08/01 164.3 BMI 21.7 Hernia repair on 06/07/00 Dr. Anthone Tummy Tuck & Breast Reduction Dr. Downey Total Weight Loss! 224.1lbs GONE! Total inches lost 165! http://www.duodenalswitch.com (our groups very own web site) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 Hi Gang: Just for a little FYI and to show once again how much doctors differ I offer this. Right along with my first meal, that was day 4 and was a full leg and thigh of roasted chicken, dressing, mashed potatoes, some kind of veggie, salad, soup and desert and to drink...7-up and it wasn't diet either. Dr. A feels that we should get started back on regular food as soon as possible and as we are truly only taking tiny taste and baby sips he says that soda does not harm us, I know it gave me no problems at all and after all we are flushing out our feeding tubes with coke and also not the diet stuff as it does not work like the real thang! Huggles, Tiger Lake Female 160 lbs. BMI 21.7 224lbs gone 165 1/2 inches gone 6' -- 53yrs young Dr. Anthone@USC So. Calif. Open DS Surgery 1/13/99 384lbs BMI 51.21 Last Visit 4/20/99 315.5 BMI 42.07 7/19/99 274.8 BMI 36.64 9/03/99 259.3 BMI 34.54 10/04/99 252.4 BMI 34.02 10/25/99 231 BMI 32 12/17/99 217.5 BMI 30.2 01/19/00 211 BMI 28 02/20/00 195 BMI 26 04/08/00 182.9 BMI 25 06/07/00 160 BMI 21.7 01/08/01 164.3 BMI 21.7 Hernia repair on 06/07/00 Dr. Anthone Tummy Tuck & Breast Reduction Dr. Downey Total Weight Loss! 224.1lbs GONE! Total inches lost 165! http://www.duodenalswitch.com (our groups very own web site) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 Dear Marisa: Do you know if this is a recent thing? I had my surgery in Jan. of 99 and was served reg. 7-up in the hospital and told I could sip any soda I wanted. Huggles, Tiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 EXCUSE ME MARY? My doctor has NOTHING but utmost respect for me and I for him. I did NOT question a doctors example to his patients. I would NEVER want to cast any doubt in any patients mind about a statement their surgeon made. You keep questioning my character, Drop it please, for the sake of group harmony. Have the last word if you must. I'll comment no further. Deanna True 02-15-01 Open BPD/DS Dr. Keshishian 300 lbs./ BMI 49 pre-surgery 253 lbs./ BMI 40 8 weeks post-op WOW 47 pounds gone forever !!!!!!! Re: Soda or No Soda > > > > > > > Are you sure that you want to be confrontational with your doctor? He > is > > a > > > fine surgeon according to all the reports. No need to require > perfection. > > > I certainly hope my patients don't demand that from me. Healthcare > > > providers sometimes use imperfect examples to help the other person > > > understand. > > > > > > in Seattle > > > DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 > > > 4/5/01 240# BMI 38 > > > Dr Welker - OHSU > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > I will ask my doctor, Dr. Keshishian, why he made a false comparison! > I > > > find > > > > it totally out of character for a fine man and surgeon. Perhaps he has > > > some > > > > reasoning behind his statements you are unaware of. > > > > Deanna True > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > The stomach is open at the top and the released air can and does > come > > > out > > > > as > > > > > a burp. > > > > > Many DS folks sip on carbonated drinks. False comparison-- the > > stomach > > > > with > > > > > a tied off balloon. The suture line in the stomach isn't that > fragile > > > > after > > > > > a couple of weeks. Of greater concern might be the effect of > > carbonated > > > > > drinks on calcium. > > > > > > > > > > in Seattle > > > > > DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 > > > > > 4/5/01 240# BMI 38 > > > > > Dr Welker - OHSU > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Keshishian does not recommend carbonated drinks of any kind > > post- > > > > > > op. He gave a visual example for his reasoning. Take a balloon > and > > > > > > pour some carbonated drink into the balloon and tie a knot at te > > > > > > neck. Allow the balloon to set at room temperature for awhile. > You > > > > > > will qickly notice that the balloon will begin to enlarge. As the > > > > > > carbonated bubbles begin to pop, the air in the balloon increases, > > > > > > thereby stretching the balloon. > > > > > > > > > > > > The same will occur in your new stomach. In the early weeks it is > > > > > > very important to avoid stretching your stomach. Stretching can > > > > > > cause leaks, followed by additional surgery to repair the leaks. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are really craving a soda, pour it over ice and let stand > for > > > > > > awhile, allowing the carbonation to reduce. You might also take > > > > > > GasEx (or any other simethecone) prior to drinking a soda. It > > should > > > > > > be able to dissipate of carbonation more quickly.\ > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck and be careful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 EXCUSE ME MARY? My doctor has NOTHING but utmost respect for me and I for him. I did NOT question a doctors example to his patients. I would NEVER want to cast any doubt in any patients mind about a statement their surgeon made. You keep questioning my character, Drop it please, for the sake of group harmony. Have the last word if you must. I'll comment no further. Deanna True 02-15-01 Open BPD/DS Dr. Keshishian 300 lbs./ BMI 49 pre-surgery 253 lbs./ BMI 40 8 weeks post-op WOW 47 pounds gone forever !!!!!!! Re: Soda or No Soda > > > > > > > Are you sure that you want to be confrontational with your doctor? He > is > > a > > > fine surgeon according to all the reports. No need to require > perfection. > > > I certainly hope my patients don't demand that from me. Healthcare > > > providers sometimes use imperfect examples to help the other person > > > understand. > > > > > > in Seattle > > > DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 > > > 4/5/01 240# BMI 38 > > > Dr Welker - OHSU > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > I will ask my doctor, Dr. Keshishian, why he made a false comparison! > I > > > find > > > > it totally out of character for a fine man and surgeon. Perhaps he has > > > some > > > > reasoning behind his statements you are unaware of. > > > > Deanna True > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > The stomach is open at the top and the released air can and does > come > > > out > > > > as > > > > > a burp. > > > > > Many DS folks sip on carbonated drinks. False comparison-- the > > stomach > > > > with > > > > > a tied off balloon. The suture line in the stomach isn't that > fragile > > > > after > > > > > a couple of weeks. Of greater concern might be the effect of > > carbonated > > > > > drinks on calcium. > > > > > > > > > > in Seattle > > > > > DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 > > > > > 4/5/01 240# BMI 38 > > > > > Dr Welker - OHSU > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Keshishian does not recommend carbonated drinks of any kind > > post- > > > > > > op. He gave a visual example for his reasoning. Take a balloon > and > > > > > > pour some carbonated drink into the balloon and tie a knot at te > > > > > > neck. Allow the balloon to set at room temperature for awhile. > You > > > > > > will qickly notice that the balloon will begin to enlarge. As the > > > > > > carbonated bubbles begin to pop, the air in the balloon increases, > > > > > > thereby stretching the balloon. > > > > > > > > > > > > The same will occur in your new stomach. In the early weeks it is > > > > > > very important to avoid stretching your stomach. Stretching can > > > > > > cause leaks, followed by additional surgery to repair the leaks. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are really craving a soda, pour it over ice and let stand > for > > > > > > awhile, allowing the carbonation to reduce. You might also take > > > > > > GasEx (or any other simethecone) prior to drinking a soda. It > > should > > > > > > be able to dissipate of carbonation more quickly.\ > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck and be careful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 LOL I doubt it. If someone came to me and told me that another person had scorned my example I'd start wondering what sort of problem my patient was exhibiting to bring this story to me. Re: Soda or No Soda > > > > Are you sure that you want to be confrontational with your doctor? He is > a > > fine surgeon according to all the reports. No need to require perfection. > > I certainly hope my patients don't demand that from me. Healthcare > > providers sometimes use imperfect examples to help the other person > > understand. > > > > in Seattle > > DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 > > 4/5/01 240# BMI 38 > > Dr Welker - OHSU > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > I will ask my doctor, Dr. Keshishian, why he made a false comparison! I > > find > > > it totally out of character for a fine man and surgeon. Perhaps he has > > some > > > reasoning behind his statements you are unaware of. > > > Deanna True > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > The stomach is open at the top and the released air can and does come > > out > > > as > > > > a burp. > > > > Many DS folks sip on carbonated drinks. False comparison-- the > stomach > > > with > > > > a tied off balloon. The suture line in the stomach isn't that fragile > > > after > > > > a couple of weeks. Of greater concern might be the effect of > carbonated > > > > drinks on calcium. > > > > > > > > in Seattle > > > > DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 > > > > 4/5/01 240# BMI 38 > > > > Dr Welker - OHSU > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Keshishian does not recommend carbonated drinks of any kind > post- > > > > > op. He gave a visual example for his reasoning. Take a balloon and > > > > > pour some carbonated drink into the balloon and tie a knot at te > > > > > neck. Allow the balloon to set at room temperature for awhile. You > > > > > will qickly notice that the balloon will begin to enlarge. As the > > > > > carbonated bubbles begin to pop, the air in the balloon increases, > > > > > thereby stretching the balloon. > > > > > > > > > > The same will occur in your new stomach. In the early weeks it is > > > > > very important to avoid stretching your stomach. Stretching can > > > > > cause leaks, followed by additional surgery to repair the leaks. > > > > > > > > > > If you are really craving a soda, pour it over ice and let stand for > > > > > awhile, allowing the carbonation to reduce. You might also take > > > > > GasEx (or any other simethecone) prior to drinking a soda. It > should > > > > > be able to dissipate of carbonation more quickly.\ > > > > > > > > > > Good luck and be careful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 , I am also a Dr. K patient, and I have to side completely with Deanna. Dr. K is a man and surgeon who you can ask anything. You can question him on his reasons and his procedure. He is open and willing to discuss without taking offence. And on the 'soda' issue he recommends against it in the beginning, not for a lifetime. We sure must love our soda because this has turned into a bigger issue than needs to be. It is just like our post-op diets differ from doctor to doctor. Not a big deal, follow your Dr. recommendations and all is cool. Have a happy easter Jo > LOL I doubt it. If someone came to me and told me that another person had > scorned my example I'd start wondering what sort of problem my patient was > exhibiting to bring this story to me. > > > > Re: Soda or No Soda > > > > > > > Are you sure that you want to be confrontational with your doctor? He > is > > a > > > fine surgeon according to all the reports. No need to require > perfection. > > > I certainly hope my patients don't demand that from me. Healthcare > > > providers sometimes use imperfect examples to help the other person > > > understand. > > > > > > in Seattle > > > DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 > > > 4/5/01 240# BMI 38 > > > Dr Welker - OHSU > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: " True's " > > > > > > > I will ask my doctor, Dr. Keshishian, why he made a false comparison! > I > > > find > > > > it totally out of character for a fine man and surgeon. Perhaps he has > > > some > > > > reasoning behind his statements you are unaware of. > > > > Deanna True > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: " Montgomery " > > > > > The stomach is open at the top and the released air can and does > come > > > out > > > > as > > > > > a burp. > > > > > Many DS folks sip on carbonated drinks. False comparison-- the > > stomach > > > > with > > > > > a tied off balloon. The suture line in the stomach isn't that > fragile > > > > after > > > > > a couple of weeks. Of greater concern might be the effect of > > carbonated > > > > > drinks on calcium. > > > > > > > > > > in Seattle > > > > > DS 1/5/01 295# BMI 47.6 > > > > > 4/5/01 240# BMI 38 > > > > > Dr Welker - OHSU > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: " PJ Elmlund " > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Keshishian does not recommend carbonated drinks of any kind > > post- > > > > > > op. He gave a visual example for his reasoning. Take a balloon > and > > > > > > pour some carbonated drink into the balloon and tie a knot at te > > > > > > neck. Allow the balloon to set at room temperature for awhile. > You > > > > > > will qickly notice that the balloon will begin to enlarge. As the > > > > > > carbonated bubbles begin to pop, the air in the balloon increases, > > > > > > thereby stretching the balloon. > > > > > > > > > > > > The same will occur in your new stomach. In the early weeks it is > > > > > > very important to avoid stretching your stomach. Stretching can > > > > > > cause leaks, followed by additional surgery to repair the leaks. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are really craving a soda, pour it over ice and let stand > for > > > > > > awhile, allowing the carbonation to reduce. You might also take > > > > > > GasEx (or any other simethecone) prior to drinking a soda. It > > should > > > > > > be able to dissipate of carbonation more quickly.\ > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck and be careful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 how many replies do we need on the soda issue? geeze!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 how many replies do we need on the soda issue? geeze!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2001 Report Share Posted April 16, 2001 SHOOT! Were you able to eat all that stuff? Sounds tons better than my first meal! Pureed chicken & rice. Wasn't as bad as the pureed beef. Just the thought of it STILL makes me nauseaus!! Cheri > Hi Gang: > > Just for a little FYI and to show once again how much doctors differ I > offer this. > Right along with my first meal, that was day 4 and was a full leg and thigh > of roasted chicken, dressing, mashed potatoes, some kind of veggie, salad, > soup and desert and to drink...7-up and it wasn't diet either. > Dr. A feels that we should get started back on regular food as soon as > possible and as we are truly only taking tiny taste and baby sips he says > that soda does not harm us, I know it gave me no problems at all and after > all we are flushing out our feeding tubes with coke and also not the diet > stuff as it does not work like the real thang! > > Huggles, > Tiger Lake > Female > 160 lbs. BMI 21.7 > 224lbs gone > 165 1/2 inches gone > 6' -- 53yrs young > Dr. Anthone@USC So. Calif. > Open DS > Surgery 1/13/99 384lbs BMI 51.21 > Last Visit 4/20/99 315.5 BMI 42.07 > 7/19/99 274.8 BMI 36.64 > 9/03/99 259.3 BMI 34.54 > 10/04/99 252.4 BMI 34.02 > 10/25/99 231 BMI 32 > 12/17/99 217.5 BMI 30.2 > 01/19/00 211 BMI 28 > 02/20/00 195 BMI 26 > 04/08/00 182.9 BMI 25 > 06/07/00 160 BMI 21.7 > 01/08/01 164.3 BMI 21.7 > Hernia repair on 06/07/00 Dr. Anthone > Tummy Tuck & Breast Reduction Dr. Downey > Total Weight Loss! 224.1lbs GONE! > Total inches lost 165! > http://www.duodenalswitch.com (our groups very own web site) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2001 Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 Dear Cheri: Nope I ate a couple of pieces of lettuce and sipped some 7-up that was it. I did try tasting the other stuff but the chicken turned my tummy and still does and the rest just tasted funny. At least you could eat something even pureed. Huggles, Tiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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