Re: drainage tube question

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In a message dated 4/12/01 3:27:48 PM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< howdy. this may seem like a silly question, but i'm feeling

worried about things right now and this is one of the things that

i'm worried about. how does it feel when they remove the

drainage tube after surgery?? i have heard a couple of things

about it, and now it has me feeling afraid. any suggestions for

making it less painful? what did you folks experience?

thanks for indulging me. i really appreciate the support of

everyone here.

>>

Hi, ! I was paranoid about this and avoided the residents all morning

because I didn't want them to yank them out.... I decided to take a percoset

and was almost ready to fall asleep when they finally got ahold of me. LOL

I treally wasn't painful for me (I had two tubes sticking in my right side -

they put them in the same hole). It was a very strange feeling, though....

The resident put his hand on my stomach as he pulled them out and that REALLY

helped it feel less bizarre.... I was told by Dr. Quinn that there would be

pressure and then a burning sensation as the tubes came out, but I didn't

have any burning sensation. It was over very quickly.

My advice: make sure you have some meds just to relax you (I know I needed

this) and ask the person to put his/her hands on your abdomen to apply light

pressure as they are pulling them out.

I mean, I am such a WUSS for pain. I almost insisted on an epidural for

post-op pain relief, even though Dr. Gagner doesn't routinely use them since

I was so afraid the morphine wouldn't work for me --- Demerol and like drugs

are a JOKE for me (I was awake and saw both a colonoscopy and endoscopy done

on the TV screen in the room) --- I can't believe I birthed two children!

ROFL

So, if it really wasn't painful for me and I'm a worrywart about it, I'm sure

you'll do absolutely fine.

All the best,

laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal

Dr. Gagner/DR. Quinn assisting/MT. Sinai/NYC

January 25, 2001

81 days post-op and still feelin' fab! :_

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In a message dated 4/12/01 3:27:48 PM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< howdy. this may seem like a silly question, but i'm feeling

worried about things right now and this is one of the things that

i'm worried about. how does it feel when they remove the

drainage tube after surgery?? i have heard a couple of things

about it, and now it has me feeling afraid. any suggestions for

making it less painful? what did you folks experience?

thanks for indulging me. i really appreciate the support of

everyone here.

>>

Hi, ! I was paranoid about this and avoided the residents all morning

because I didn't want them to yank them out.... I decided to take a percoset

and was almost ready to fall asleep when they finally got ahold of me. LOL

I treally wasn't painful for me (I had two tubes sticking in my right side -

they put them in the same hole). It was a very strange feeling, though....

The resident put his hand on my stomach as he pulled them out and that REALLY

helped it feel less bizarre.... I was told by Dr. Quinn that there would be

pressure and then a burning sensation as the tubes came out, but I didn't

have any burning sensation. It was over very quickly.

My advice: make sure you have some meds just to relax you (I know I needed

this) and ask the person to put his/her hands on your abdomen to apply light

pressure as they are pulling them out.

I mean, I am such a WUSS for pain. I almost insisted on an epidural for

post-op pain relief, even though Dr. Gagner doesn't routinely use them since

I was so afraid the morphine wouldn't work for me --- Demerol and like drugs

are a JOKE for me (I was awake and saw both a colonoscopy and endoscopy done

on the TV screen in the room) --- I can't believe I birthed two children!

ROFL

So, if it really wasn't painful for me and I'm a worrywart about it, I'm sure

you'll do absolutely fine.

All the best,

laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal

Dr. Gagner/DR. Quinn assisting/MT. Sinai/NYC

January 25, 2001

81 days post-op and still feelin' fab! :_

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In a message dated 4/12/01 3:27:48 PM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< howdy. this may seem like a silly question, but i'm feeling

worried about things right now and this is one of the things that

i'm worried about. how does it feel when they remove the

drainage tube after surgery?? i have heard a couple of things

about it, and now it has me feeling afraid. any suggestions for

making it less painful? what did you folks experience?

thanks for indulging me. i really appreciate the support of

everyone here.

>>

Hi, ! I was paranoid about this and avoided the residents all morning

because I didn't want them to yank them out.... I decided to take a percoset

and was almost ready to fall asleep when they finally got ahold of me. LOL

I treally wasn't painful for me (I had two tubes sticking in my right side -

they put them in the same hole). It was a very strange feeling, though....

The resident put his hand on my stomach as he pulled them out and that REALLY

helped it feel less bizarre.... I was told by Dr. Quinn that there would be

pressure and then a burning sensation as the tubes came out, but I didn't

have any burning sensation. It was over very quickly.

My advice: make sure you have some meds just to relax you (I know I needed

this) and ask the person to put his/her hands on your abdomen to apply light

pressure as they are pulling them out.

I mean, I am such a WUSS for pain. I almost insisted on an epidural for

post-op pain relief, even though Dr. Gagner doesn't routinely use them since

I was so afraid the morphine wouldn't work for me --- Demerol and like drugs

are a JOKE for me (I was awake and saw both a colonoscopy and endoscopy done

on the TV screen in the room) --- I can't believe I birthed two children!

ROFL

So, if it really wasn't painful for me and I'm a worrywart about it, I'm sure

you'll do absolutely fine.

All the best,

laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal

Dr. Gagner/DR. Quinn assisting/MT. Sinai/NYC

January 25, 2001

81 days post-op and still feelin' fab! :_

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Hi: I am pre-op too, but have had a drainage tube for

prior surgeries and I had no pain whatsoever with the

removal..... just felt weird being pulled out.

Caroline

> howdy. this may seem like a silly question, but i'm

> feeling

> worried about things right now and this is one of

> the things that

> i'm worried about. how does it feel when they

> remove the

> drainage tube after surgery?? i have heard a couple

> of things

> about it, and now it has me feeling afraid. any

> suggestions for

> making it less painful? what did you folks

> experience?

>

> thanks for indulging me. i really appreciate the

> support of

> everyone here.

>

> erika

> 5'2 " , 281.5#, bmi 51

> tentative surgery date 5.11.01 11:30 am

> dr. herron

>

>

>

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>

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Dear :

I wouldn't worry about it at all, I not only did not feel them remove the drainage tube but I also did not feel it when they removed the feeding tube and I thought I would feel some kind of stinging or burning when the feeding tube was removed because it was sore and tender where the couple of stitches were that held it in place but nary a twinge, I do love that Dr. A!!!! LOL

Huggles,

Tiger

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Dear :

I wouldn't worry about it at all, I not only did not feel them remove the drainage tube but I also did not feel it when they removed the feeding tube and I thought I would feel some kind of stinging or burning when the feeding tube was removed because it was sore and tender where the couple of stitches were that held it in place but nary a twinge, I do love that Dr. A!!!! LOL

Huggles,

Tiger

[Guest guest]

> how does it feel when they remove the

> drainage tube after surgery??

It doesn't hurt. It just feels funny, because you

can feel it moving along your insides as it snakes

its way out. Sort of interesting, if you put your-

self in the right mood.

Tom

Start Weight 384 lbs., BMI 64

Panniculectomy, 11/10/2000, Dr. Anthone

Pre-DS 360 lbs., BMI 60

Open DS, 03/30/2001, Dr. Anthone

Current 346 lbs., BMI 58

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i am so relieved to hear these answers! the woman's site with the clinical

photos describe this as so painful that it required

two hits of morphine to get her through it! scared the pants off of me...

erika

5'2 " , 281.5#, bmi 51.5

surgery date 5.11.01 11:30 am

dr. herron

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Okay, I'll be the one fly in the ointment on this subject. *LOL*

I had two drainage tubes. The first one was taken out while I was

still in the hospital and my epidural was still in. This one did not

hurt at all when pulled out. It just felt kinda funny. The second

one is a totally different story.

I had the second one removed 9 days post-op when I went for my

post-op visit at Dr. Elariny's office. I hadn't been on any

painkillers for days and didn't think I needed any since the 1st

drain came out so easily and didn't hurt. I innocently went to his

office that morning thinking that my evil twin (the JP drain) was

going to come out just as easily as the first.

Dr. Elariny had me in an examination room just off of where his nurse

sits, separated only by a curtin. He began to try and pull that tube

out and it wouldn't budge. It hurt like the dickens! Burning and

feeling stuck like it was trying to suction out my innards as he

pulled. I started making noise. He stopped for a minute and wanted

to know if I had taken anything for pain that day and I informed him

" no " . He said I should have and then proceeded to again try and yank

the tube out of my body. I held onto my gut and just kinda screamed

as it came out. Poor Shauntae (his nurse) was on the phone while

this was taking place with a woman who had a consultation appt. with

Dr. Elariny but was running late because she was lost. Dr. Elariny

jokingly told Shauntae to tell that patient that those sounds she was

hearing was what happened to patients that were late for appts. to

see him. *LOL* He has a wonderful sense of humor and once my evil

twin was removed from my belly, I was a happy camper. The pain

subsided very quickly.

So...the moral to this story is take your pain meds BEFORE you have

your JP drains removed.

Regards,

Dorian

P.S. When I came out to the waiting room, you should have seen all

the wide-eyed people looking at me. They must have heard me

screaming in the back. *LOL*

[Guest guest]

Okay, I'll be the one fly in the ointment on this subject. *LOL*

I had two drainage tubes. The first one was taken out while I was

still in the hospital and my epidural was still in. This one did not

hurt at all when pulled out. It just felt kinda funny. The second

one is a totally different story.

I had the second one removed 9 days post-op when I went for my

post-op visit at Dr. Elariny's office. I hadn't been on any

painkillers for days and didn't think I needed any since the 1st

drain came out so easily and didn't hurt. I innocently went to his

office that morning thinking that my evil twin (the JP drain) was

going to come out just as easily as the first.

Dr. Elariny had me in an examination room just off of where his nurse

sits, separated only by a curtin. He began to try and pull that tube

out and it wouldn't budge. It hurt like the dickens! Burning and

feeling stuck like it was trying to suction out my innards as he

pulled. I started making noise. He stopped for a minute and wanted

to know if I had taken anything for pain that day and I informed him

" no " . He said I should have and then proceeded to again try and yank

the tube out of my body. I held onto my gut and just kinda screamed

as it came out. Poor Shauntae (his nurse) was on the phone while

this was taking place with a woman who had a consultation appt. with

Dr. Elariny but was running late because she was lost. Dr. Elariny

jokingly told Shauntae to tell that patient that those sounds she was

hearing was what happened to patients that were late for appts. to

see him. *LOL* He has a wonderful sense of humor and once my evil

twin was removed from my belly, I was a happy camper. The pain

subsided very quickly.

So...the moral to this story is take your pain meds BEFORE you have

your JP drains removed.

Regards,

Dorian

P.S. When I came out to the waiting room, you should have seen all

the wide-eyed people looking at me. They must have heard me

screaming in the back. *LOL*

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WOO HOO! A question I can answer! When the drainage tube came out it was a funny feeling. It wasn't painful at all just like a tug and it was all over! Jodie W.Age 28BMI 49.9Dr. HessMarch 28, 01/325 lbsPaid By Coresource and Aetna04-06-01 Down 20 pounds!04-09-01 297 1/2 lbs Down 27 1/2 lbs!

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WOO HOO! A question I can answer! When the drainage tube came out it was a funny feeling. It wasn't painful at all just like a tug and it was all over! Jodie W.Age 28BMI 49.9Dr. HessMarch 28, 01/325 lbsPaid By Coresource and Aetna04-06-01 Down 20 pounds!04-09-01 297 1/2 lbs Down 27 1/2 lbs!

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I did not realize that we go home with any tubes still in. What

kind of care does this drainage tube take? Do you have a bag that you

wear that it drains into? Sorry to sound so dumb but I have never

had any kind of surgery before. I am trying to figure out if I will

be able to care for myself when I get home.

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I did not realize that we go home with any tubes still in. What

kind of care does this drainage tube take? Do you have a bag that you

wear that it drains into? Sorry to sound so dumb but I have never

had any kind of surgery before. I am trying to figure out if I will

be able to care for myself when I get home.

[Guest guest]

............."I did not realize that we go home with any tubes still in. " .............

I can only relate what my surgeon said about going home with tubes, "Leaks are handled 2 ways. The drain tube will take care of any small leaks that your body will heal naturally. If you have a small leak you will go home with the drain intact. Large leaks we try to fix lap... if unable to repair lap we have to go in open."

Luckily my drainage was next to nothing for the last day and a half I was in the hospital (I was in the hosp a total of 3 days). I expected it to really hurt when it was removed as it hurt like hell when my drain was removed from my gallbladder surgery. I expected 4-6 feet of drain tubing too. But it was about 2 foot long and did not hurt at all. I had no leakage from my drain site after the removal.

Viau, switched 3/29/01 http://www.angelfire.com/on/wannabemagic/WLS.html

Dr Ren, NYUMC http://www.med.nyu.edu/bariatric/

[Guest guest]

I had my surgery lap-assisted & didn't have any drainage tubes at

all! :-)

> I did not realize that we go home with any tubes still in. What

> kind of care does this drainage tube take? Do you have a bag that

you

> wear that it drains into? Sorry to sound so dumb but I have never

> had any kind of surgery before. I am trying to figure out if I

will

> be able to care for myself when I get home.

[Guest guest]

I had my surgery lap-assisted & didn't have any drainage tubes at

all! :-)

> I did not realize that we go home with any tubes still in. What

> kind of care does this drainage tube take? Do you have a bag that

you

> wear that it drains into? Sorry to sound so dumb but I have never

> had any kind of surgery before. I am trying to figure out if I

will

> be able to care for myself when I get home.

[Guest guest]

I had my surgery lap-assisted & didn't have any drainage tubes at

all! :-)

> I did not realize that we go home with any tubes still in. What

> kind of care does this drainage tube take? Do you have a bag that

you

> wear that it drains into? Sorry to sound so dumb but I have never

> had any kind of surgery before. I am trying to figure out if I

will

> be able to care for myself when I get home.

[Guest guest]

> > I did not realize that we go home with any tubes still in. What

> > kind of care does this drainage tube take? Do you have a bag that

you

> > wear that it drains into? Sorry to sound so dumb but I have never

> > had any kind of surgery before. I am trying to figure out if I

will

> > be able to care for myself when I get home.

> >

When I woke up from surgery I had two tubes. One was a feeding tube

and the other was a drainage tube. The feeding tube was only used

once as I recall. The drainage tube had a lemon shaped bulb on it

that you can pop off and drain when it looks like it's getting full.

The drainage tube was taken out the day I left the hospital but the

feeding tube was in the first week in the hotel. Mentally I wasn't

sure I could deal with it, but it really wasn't a big deal. BUT make

sure you get wound dressing and tape or whatever you plan to use when

you leave the hospital. The day of discharge I was given some wound

covers but forgot about tape! I ended up using sanitary napkins

stuck to the waist band of my panties the first couple of days until

I felt strong enough to walk to the pharmacy and back.

Instead of using the sterile pads and tape I chose to use 4 inch

square bandaids. The bandaid adhesive made my skin kind of mushie

though, and I'm not sure that was the best choice in the long run. I

used a plastic sandwhich bag taped over the openings when I showered,

but I'm not sure that was necessary.

I also allowed the area to " breathe " for a little while every morning

and evening. That helped the skin recover some from the adhesive and

allowed the hole to scab over faster. Once it scabbed over I didn't

need to put a bandaid on it anymore.

The feeding tube came out about a week later. I kept it the same way

I did the other side. The feeding tube took longer to heal over,

probably because it had to heal from my stomach on out.

You will be able to take care of them just fine. It's getting past

the Borg look of it.

[Guest guest]

> > I did not realize that we go home with any tubes still in. What

> > kind of care does this drainage tube take? Do you have a bag that

you

> > wear that it drains into? Sorry to sound so dumb but I have never

> > had any kind of surgery before. I am trying to figure out if I

will

> > be able to care for myself when I get home.

> >

When I woke up from surgery I had two tubes. One was a feeding tube

and the other was a drainage tube. The feeding tube was only used

once as I recall. The drainage tube had a lemon shaped bulb on it

that you can pop off and drain when it looks like it's getting full.

The drainage tube was taken out the day I left the hospital but the

feeding tube was in the first week in the hotel. Mentally I wasn't

sure I could deal with it, but it really wasn't a big deal. BUT make

sure you get wound dressing and tape or whatever you plan to use when

you leave the hospital. The day of discharge I was given some wound

covers but forgot about tape! I ended up using sanitary napkins

stuck to the waist band of my panties the first couple of days until

I felt strong enough to walk to the pharmacy and back.

Instead of using the sterile pads and tape I chose to use 4 inch

square bandaids. The bandaid adhesive made my skin kind of mushie

though, and I'm not sure that was the best choice in the long run. I

used a plastic sandwhich bag taped over the openings when I showered,

but I'm not sure that was necessary.

I also allowed the area to " breathe " for a little while every morning

and evening. That helped the skin recover some from the adhesive and

allowed the hole to scab over faster. Once it scabbed over I didn't

need to put a bandaid on it anymore.

The feeding tube came out about a week later. I kept it the same way

I did the other side. The feeding tube took longer to heal over,

probably because it had to heal from my stomach on out.

You will be able to take care of them just fine. It's getting past

the Borg look of it.

[Guest guest]

> > I did not realize that we go home with any tubes still in. What

> > kind of care does this drainage tube take? Do you have a bag that

you

> > wear that it drains into? Sorry to sound so dumb but I have never

> > had any kind of surgery before. I am trying to figure out if I

will

> > be able to care for myself when I get home.

> >

When I woke up from surgery I had two tubes. One was a feeding tube

and the other was a drainage tube. The feeding tube was only used

once as I recall. The drainage tube had a lemon shaped bulb on it

that you can pop off and drain when it looks like it's getting full.

The drainage tube was taken out the day I left the hospital but the

feeding tube was in the first week in the hotel. Mentally I wasn't

sure I could deal with it, but it really wasn't a big deal. BUT make

sure you get wound dressing and tape or whatever you plan to use when

you leave the hospital. The day of discharge I was given some wound

covers but forgot about tape! I ended up using sanitary napkins

stuck to the waist band of my panties the first couple of days until

I felt strong enough to walk to the pharmacy and back.

Instead of using the sterile pads and tape I chose to use 4 inch

square bandaids. The bandaid adhesive made my skin kind of mushie

though, and I'm not sure that was the best choice in the long run. I

used a plastic sandwhich bag taped over the openings when I showered,

but I'm not sure that was necessary.

I also allowed the area to " breathe " for a little while every morning

and evening. That helped the skin recover some from the adhesive and

allowed the hole to scab over faster. Once it scabbed over I didn't

need to put a bandaid on it anymore.

The feeding tube came out about a week later. I kept it the same way

I did the other side. The feeding tube took longer to heal over,

probably because it had to heal from my stomach on out.

You will be able to take care of them just fine. It's getting past

the Borg look of it.