Re: Conflicting Info about the 10%

[Guest guest]

Richmond-10% starts the day of your orientation and

not a day before.

Fremont: I think they take your heightest weight and

anything you have lost since then.

SF: I think you can start right way to.

Please don't quote me on Fremont and SF as I went

through Richmond so I am almost positive that I am

wrong about SF.

Sorry I could not offer more assistance.

Pam Marsh

--- " Azeeeeeeeeeeen! (the excitement is optional) "

missazin@...> wrote:

> Hey All,

>

> I'm sure this has been discussed a 100 million

> zillion times but let's

> revisit this age old question...When does the 10%

> cound??? 10% from

> your orientation date or 10% from your appointment

> with the surgeon?

> I'm trying to lose but I don't want any surprises -

> thanks, azin

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I know this one.... I know

OK the 10% starts on your orientation date. They will have everyone fill out this sheet of information and then they will call you to a room, they weigh you and then put it on that sheet of paper. That is the "MAGIC" number you have to go by. They don't tell you how much weight to loose but just do the math from it down to 10%. I know your feeling about surprises. But this it the enchilada for you.

Miriam

Surgery 7/8/2005 "Azeeeeeeeeeeen! (the excitement is optional)" wrote:

Hey All,I'm sure this has been discussed a 100 million zillion times but let's revisit this age old question...When does the 10% count??? 10% from your orientation date or 10% from your appointment with the surgeon? I'm trying to lose but I don't want any surprises - thanks, azin__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I know this one.... I know

OK the 10% starts on your orientation date. They will have everyone fill out this sheet of information and then they will call you to a room, they weigh you and then put it on that sheet of paper. That is the "MAGIC" number you have to go by. They don't tell you how much weight to loose but just do the math from it down to 10%. I know your feeling about surprises. But this it the enchilada for you.

Miriam

Surgery 7/8/2005 "Azeeeeeeeeeeen! (the excitement is optional)" wrote:

Hey All,I'm sure this has been discussed a 100 million zillion times but let's revisit this age old question...When does the 10% count??? 10% from your orientation date or 10% from your appointment with the surgeon? I'm trying to lose but I don't want any surprises - thanks, azin__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I know this one.... I know

OK the 10% starts on your orientation date. They will have everyone fill out this sheet of information and then they will call you to a room, they weigh you and then put it on that sheet of paper. That is the "MAGIC" number you have to go by. They don't tell you how much weight to loose but just do the math from it down to 10%. I know your feeling about surprises. But this it the enchilada for you.

Miriam

Surgery 7/8/2005 "Azeeeeeeeeeeen! (the excitement is optional)" wrote:

Hey All,I'm sure this has been discussed a 100 million zillion times but let's revisit this age old question...When does the 10% count??? 10% from your orientation date or 10% from your appointment with the surgeon? I'm trying to lose but I don't want any surprises - thanks, azin__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Depends on which program. Richmond does NOT count any weight lost before

the first appointment with the Bariatrics department, which is usually

Orientation, but occasionally a patient will have an initial consult

with the surgeon shortly before Orientation. Just depends on how they're

scheduling. At that first appointment they will determine your initial

weight, and that is the basis of the 10%.

Fremont I believe uses your highest documented weight, even if that was

with your PCP a few months before. I would recommend verifying that WITH

THE BARIATRICS DEPARTMENT though. Do NOT take what your PCP might tell

you as factual, nor the nutritionist who did the initial evaluation

prior to surgery approval, nor the psych, etc. Do NOT take as gospel

anything not told you by the Bariatrics folks at the facility that is

going to be doing your surgery!

Bottom line, if you have not been seen by the surgeon or had your

orientation yet, I would NOT recommend losing weight. I know, it feels

like it's counterproductive, but there you are.

Azeeeeeeeeeeen! (the excitement is optional) wrote:

>I'm sure this has been discussed a 100 million zillion times but let's

>revisit this age old question...When does the 10% cound??? 10% from

>your orientation date or 10% from your appointment with the surgeon?

>I'm trying to lose but I don't want any surprises - thanks, azin

>

>

--

Eleanor Oster

eleanor@... (personal address)

www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm

San , CA

Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003

P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA)

~5'9 " tall

05/09/2003 319 Orientation

07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery

Current ~150 Goal until plastics?

Goal 140-150?

[Guest guest]

Depends on which program. Richmond does NOT count any weight lost before

the first appointment with the Bariatrics department, which is usually

Orientation, but occasionally a patient will have an initial consult

with the surgeon shortly before Orientation. Just depends on how they're

scheduling. At that first appointment they will determine your initial

weight, and that is the basis of the 10%.

Fremont I believe uses your highest documented weight, even if that was

with your PCP a few months before. I would recommend verifying that WITH

THE BARIATRICS DEPARTMENT though. Do NOT take what your PCP might tell

you as factual, nor the nutritionist who did the initial evaluation

prior to surgery approval, nor the psych, etc. Do NOT take as gospel

anything not told you by the Bariatrics folks at the facility that is

going to be doing your surgery!

Bottom line, if you have not been seen by the surgeon or had your

orientation yet, I would NOT recommend losing weight. I know, it feels

like it's counterproductive, but there you are.

Azeeeeeeeeeeen! (the excitement is optional) wrote:

>I'm sure this has been discussed a 100 million zillion times but let's

>revisit this age old question...When does the 10% cound??? 10% from

>your orientation date or 10% from your appointment with the surgeon?

>I'm trying to lose but I don't want any surprises - thanks, azin

>

>

--

Eleanor Oster

eleanor@... (personal address)

www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm

San , CA

Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003

P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA)

~5'9 " tall

05/09/2003 319 Orientation

07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery

Current ~150 Goal until plastics?

Goal 140-150?

[Guest guest]

Depends on which program. Richmond does NOT count any weight lost before

the first appointment with the Bariatrics department, which is usually

Orientation, but occasionally a patient will have an initial consult

with the surgeon shortly before Orientation. Just depends on how they're

scheduling. At that first appointment they will determine your initial

weight, and that is the basis of the 10%.

Fremont I believe uses your highest documented weight, even if that was

with your PCP a few months before. I would recommend verifying that WITH

THE BARIATRICS DEPARTMENT though. Do NOT take what your PCP might tell

you as factual, nor the nutritionist who did the initial evaluation

prior to surgery approval, nor the psych, etc. Do NOT take as gospel

anything not told you by the Bariatrics folks at the facility that is

going to be doing your surgery!

Bottom line, if you have not been seen by the surgeon or had your

orientation yet, I would NOT recommend losing weight. I know, it feels

like it's counterproductive, but there you are.

Azeeeeeeeeeeen! (the excitement is optional) wrote:

>I'm sure this has been discussed a 100 million zillion times but let's

>revisit this age old question...When does the 10% cound??? 10% from

>your orientation date or 10% from your appointment with the surgeon?

>I'm trying to lose but I don't want any surprises - thanks, azin

>

>

--

Eleanor Oster

eleanor@... (personal address)

www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm

San , CA

Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003

P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA)

~5'9 " tall

05/09/2003 319 Orientation

07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery

Current ~150 Goal until plastics?

Goal 140-150?

[Guest guest]

In Kaiser Permanente Riverside, they weighed you at orientation date,

also you were given the 10% amount number you have to lose before

surgery. Also they measure your hips & your waist. When I took

orientation in Feb. 2004, they told me I had to lose 5% of the weight.

When you got to the 5% you were referred you to the Bariatric Surgery

group and then continue with the remaining 5% weightloss. It took me 1

year and 4 months to get to goal. (actually I lost 39lbs instead of

32lbs (my 10% goal). When I took the last class in June 2004 they were

sending people to Pacific Bariatrics, in July 2004, you were able to

go to Crown Bariatrics in Corona, CA, which is only a couple of miles

from my home in Riverside. However, Crown Bariatrics does surgeries in

Inland Valley Medical Center in Wildomar, Ca (Lake Elsinore area).

> Hey All,

>

> I'm sure this has been discussed a 100 million zillion times but

let's

> revisit this age old question...When does the 10% cound??? 10% from

> your orientation date or 10% from your appointment with the

surgeon?

> I'm trying to lose but I don't want any surprises - thanks, azin

[Guest guest]

In Kaiser Permanente Riverside, they weighed you at orientation date,

also you were given the 10% amount number you have to lose before

surgery. Also they measure your hips & your waist. When I took

orientation in Feb. 2004, they told me I had to lose 5% of the weight.

When you got to the 5% you were referred you to the Bariatric Surgery

group and then continue with the remaining 5% weightloss. It took me 1

year and 4 months to get to goal. (actually I lost 39lbs instead of

32lbs (my 10% goal). When I took the last class in June 2004 they were

sending people to Pacific Bariatrics, in July 2004, you were able to

go to Crown Bariatrics in Corona, CA, which is only a couple of miles

from my home in Riverside. However, Crown Bariatrics does surgeries in

Inland Valley Medical Center in Wildomar, Ca (Lake Elsinore area).

> Hey All,

>

> I'm sure this has been discussed a 100 million zillion times but

let's

> revisit this age old question...When does the 10% cound??? 10% from

> your orientation date or 10% from your appointment with the

surgeon?

> I'm trying to lose but I don't want any surprises - thanks, azin

[Guest guest]

I forget where you are having your surgery, but if in Richmond they take

your weight from your orientation. If you are at SSF or Fremont, then they

take the weight on your referal I believe. LaWanda At 02:51 PM 6/27/05,

you wrote:

>Hey All,

>

>I'm sure this has been discussed a 100 million zillion times but let's

>revisit this age old question...When does the 10% cound??? 10% from

>your orientation date or 10% from your appointment with the surgeon?

>I'm trying to lose but I don't want any surprises - thanks, azin

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I only know about my experience with Fremont. They

took the highest weight in the last year (doctors) and

they made me loose ten % from that. Also at fremont

you can loose the ten percent " BEFORE " orientation.

Cecilia

--- " Azeeeeeeeeeeen! (the excitement is optional) "

missazin@...> wrote:

> Hey All,

>

> I'm sure this has been discussed a 100 million

> zillion times but let's

> revisit this age old question...When does the 10%

> cound??? 10% from

> your orientation date or 10% from your appointment

> with the surgeon?

> I'm trying to lose but I don't want any surprises -

> thanks, azin

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I only know about my experience with Fremont. They

took the highest weight in the last year (doctors) and

they made me loose ten % from that. Also at fremont

you can loose the ten percent " BEFORE " orientation.

Cecilia

--- " Azeeeeeeeeeeen! (the excitement is optional) "

missazin@...> wrote:

> Hey All,

>

> I'm sure this has been discussed a 100 million

> zillion times but let's

> revisit this age old question...When does the 10%

> cound??? 10% from

> your orientation date or 10% from your appointment

> with the surgeon?

> I'm trying to lose but I don't want any surprises -

> thanks, azin

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Yikes!! I gained a little bit of weight since my referral. At

orientation I weighted more than at my referral date (not by a ton

but a couple more lbs). I'm having it at SSF.

Actually come to think of it, I was told to lose just 10lbs instead

of 10%. I'm sure that was documented when I met with Dr. Stiles.

Would it be weird if I called them to confirm how much they'd like

me to lose?

I wish the booklet had some info about the actual program like

logistrics of each tracks and what's expected.

Thanks all,

a.

> >Hey All,

> >

> >I'm sure this has been discussed a 100 million zillion times but

let's

> >revisit this age old question...When does the 10% cound??? 10%

from

> >your orientation date or 10% from your appointment with the

surgeon?

> >I'm trying to lose but I don't want any surprises - thanks, azin

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yikes!! I gained a little bit of weight since my referral. At

orientation I weighted more than at my referral date (not by a ton

but a couple more lbs). I'm having it at SSF.

Actually come to think of it, I was told to lose just 10lbs instead

of 10%. I'm sure that was documented when I met with Dr. Stiles.

Would it be weird if I called them to confirm how much they'd like

me to lose?

I wish the booklet had some info about the actual program like

logistrics of each tracks and what's expected.

Thanks all,

a.

> >Hey All,

> >

> >I'm sure this has been discussed a 100 million zillion times but

let's

> >revisit this age old question...When does the 10% cound??? 10%

from

> >your orientation date or 10% from your appointment with the

surgeon?

> >I'm trying to lose but I don't want any surprises - thanks, azin

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yikes!! I gained a little bit of weight since my referral. At

orientation I weighted more than at my referral date (not by a ton

but a couple more lbs). I'm having it at SSF.

Actually come to think of it, I was told to lose just 10lbs instead

of 10%. I'm sure that was documented when I met with Dr. Stiles.

Would it be weird if I called them to confirm how much they'd like

me to lose?

I wish the booklet had some info about the actual program like

logistrics of each tracks and what's expected.

Thanks all,

a.

> >Hey All,

> >

> >I'm sure this has been discussed a 100 million zillion times but

let's

> >revisit this age old question...When does the 10% cound??? 10%

from

> >your orientation date or 10% from your appointment with the

surgeon?

> >I'm trying to lose but I don't want any surprises - thanks, azin

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >