Re: Article: Dripping yogurt reduces calcium

[Guest guest]

Holly,

Very interesting!

I have Osteopenia.. I drip my yogurt.

Besides dairy what else is calcium rich?

I remember reading something a few years ago that humans have a hard time

utilizing the actual calcium in dairy..

Does this ring a bell for anyone?

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Holly,

Very interesting!

I have Osteopenia.. I drip my yogurt.

Besides dairy what else is calcium rich?

I remember reading something a few years ago that humans have a hard time

utilizing the actual calcium in dairy..

Does this ring a bell for anyone?

Jodi

[Guest guest]

I've read in many places that just getting your calcium through an animal

product will actually reduce the amount of calcium your body gets. You'll get a

lot more if you get it through plant-based food like spinach, kale and broccoli,

and some legumes. Better to rely on getting your calcium through those sources

than dairy/meat.

stacey

>

> My mom just showed me an article from L. Katz, MD. He says, " if you

strain low-fat yogurt for several hours using cheesecloth or a dish towel, about

half of the calcium will go down the drain. " I thought this might be of interest

to some people that they are not necessarily getting as much calcium as they

think they are.

>

> I know that people say there is a lot of liquid in goat yogurt, just like

there is in low fat cow yogurt. I would assume that dripping it would reduce the

calcium significantly as well?

>

> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

>

[Guest guest]

I've read in many places that just getting your calcium through an animal

product will actually reduce the amount of calcium your body gets. You'll get a

lot more if you get it through plant-based food like spinach, kale and broccoli,

and some legumes. Better to rely on getting your calcium through those sources

than dairy/meat.

stacey

>

> My mom just showed me an article from L. Katz, MD. He says, " if you

strain low-fat yogurt for several hours using cheesecloth or a dish towel, about

half of the calcium will go down the drain. " I thought this might be of interest

to some people that they are not necessarily getting as much calcium as they

think they are.

>

> I know that people say there is a lot of liquid in goat yogurt, just like

there is in low fat cow yogurt. I would assume that dripping it would reduce the

calcium significantly as well?

>

> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

>

[Guest guest]

I've read in many places that just getting your calcium through an animal

product will actually reduce the amount of calcium your body gets. You'll get a

lot more if you get it through plant-based food like spinach, kale and broccoli,

and some legumes. Better to rely on getting your calcium through those sources

than dairy/meat.

stacey

>

> My mom just showed me an article from L. Katz, MD. He says, " if you

strain low-fat yogurt for several hours using cheesecloth or a dish towel, about

half of the calcium will go down the drain. " I thought this might be of interest

to some people that they are not necessarily getting as much calcium as they

think they are.

>

> I know that people say there is a lot of liquid in goat yogurt, just like

there is in low fat cow yogurt. I would assume that dripping it would reduce the

calcium significantly as well?

>

> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

>

[Guest guest]

That's pretty scary, because I get most of my calcium from yogurt and cheese. I

can't do the calcium rich veggies yet, so I better up the calcium supplements!

Like Jodi, I have osteopenia.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

> >

> > My mom just showed me an article from L. Katz, MD. He says, " if you

strain low-fat yogurt for several hours using cheesecloth or a dish towel, about

half of the calcium will go down the drain. " I thought this might be of interest

to some people that they are not necessarily getting as much calcium as they

think they are.

> >

> > I know that people say there is a lot of liquid in goat yogurt, just like

there is in low fat cow yogurt. I would assume that dripping it would reduce the

calcium significantly as well?

> >

> > Holly

> > Crohn's

> > SCD 12/01/08

> >

>

[Guest guest]

At 12:34 AM 8/18/2009, you wrote:

My mom just showed me an article from L. Katz, MD. He says,

" if you strain low-fat yogurt for several hours using cheesecloth or

a dish towel, about half of the calcium will go down the drain. " I

thought this might be of interest to some people that they are not

necessarily getting as much calcium as they think they are.

I know that people say there is a lot of liquid in goat yogurt, just like

there is in low fat cow yogurt. I would assume that dripping it would

reduce the calcium significantly as well?

Holly,

Please note that Dr. Katz is another anti-fat person. He also is talking

about regular yogurt, not SCD yogurt.

I'm not sure where the business of vegetable sources of calcium being

better comes from -- probably from vegetarian websites!

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

At 12:34 AM 8/18/2009, you wrote:

My mom just showed me an article from L. Katz, MD. He says,

" if you strain low-fat yogurt for several hours using cheesecloth or

a dish towel, about half of the calcium will go down the drain. " I

thought this might be of interest to some people that they are not

necessarily getting as much calcium as they think they are.

I know that people say there is a lot of liquid in goat yogurt, just like

there is in low fat cow yogurt. I would assume that dripping it would

reduce the calcium significantly as well?

Holly,

Please note that Dr. Katz is another anti-fat person. He also is talking

about regular yogurt, not SCD yogurt.

I'm not sure where the business of vegetable sources of calcium being

better comes from -- probably from vegetarian websites!

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

At 12:34 AM 8/18/2009, you wrote:

My mom just showed me an article from L. Katz, MD. He says,

" if you strain low-fat yogurt for several hours using cheesecloth or

a dish towel, about half of the calcium will go down the drain. " I

thought this might be of interest to some people that they are not

necessarily getting as much calcium as they think they are.

I know that people say there is a lot of liquid in goat yogurt, just like

there is in low fat cow yogurt. I would assume that dripping it would

reduce the calcium significantly as well?

Holly,

Please note that Dr. Katz is another anti-fat person. He also is talking

about regular yogurt, not SCD yogurt.

I'm not sure where the business of vegetable sources of calcium being

better comes from -- probably from vegetarian websites!

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

I remember reading something a few years ago that humans have a hard time utilizing the actual calcium in dairy..I read something somewhere that eating a lot of dairy actually depletes the bones of calcium. Since dairy is acidic, it makes the body's pH go lower, and to try to make it higher, the body will take alkaline minerals, including calcium, from the bones. Not sure if this actually happens in everyone, but this made me think of it. Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)20mg Prednisone 1x daily ugh

[Guest guest]

Just like how the dairy websites say that milk & cheese are the best way to get

calcium? ::shrugs:: Do your own research and decide what sounds right. The

science behind the protein/calcium absorption made sense to me and I noticed a

huge difference when I changed how I was getting calcium....most especially in

terms of pain. I had a LOT less of it - woohoo!

.....circle jerk?

Stacey

>

> >

> >

> > I'm not sure where the business of vegetable sources of calcium

> > being better comes from -- probably from vegetarian websites!

>

> LOL!

>

> Circle jerk.

>

> Mara

>

[Guest guest]

Stacey,

I have read this too quite a few times over the years. One of my docs that

advocated more of an Atkins/Gluten Free diet for me (this was obviously not

enough for me I needed the SCD) explained this to me too. There is also some

data out there about Calcium supplementation not being absorbed as well.

The info is super convincing.. I just don't have the greatest memory so it sure

would be nice to be refreshed instead of having yet another thing to research!

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Stacey,

I have read this too quite a few times over the years. One of my docs that

advocated more of an Atkins/Gluten Free diet for me (this was obviously not

enough for me I needed the SCD) explained this to me too. There is also some

data out there about Calcium supplementation not being absorbed as well.

The info is super convincing.. I just don't have the greatest memory so it sure

would be nice to be refreshed instead of having yet another thing to research!

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Hi n,

I am not Holly.. and I know you aren't specifically talking about this;

But some people have issues eating Fats. It's not a one size fits all kind of

thing. My Gallbladder is perfectly healthy too. There is a thought that I may

have biliary sludge due to years of CD and bad diet. Not sure.

I get triggered if I eat cow fat but am ok with Goat and Sheep fat.

Fat in soups, marrow bones and fat from meat aka saturated fats make me feel

sick as well. If I eat a little too much bacon (sugar and nitrate free, pan

fried until totally crispy) I feel awful.

I have to watch my fat intake. Interestingly, coconut oil (although saturated

but saturated fat from a plant source is different than an animal source)

avocado do not bother me. I still must limit these things but can easily eat

guacamole and add coconut oil to my smoothies. Also some fatty fish don't

bother me at all.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Personally, I eat whole and half & half cow yogurt. However, I know a lot of

people eat goat yogurt, and there is a significant amount of liquid that drips

out of it. If tossing the liquid from cow yogurt (although the article didn't

actually mention what the source of the yogurt was, I'm assuming it was probably

cow) loses a lot of the calcium, it would stand to reason that the same could

apply to goat yogurt.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> But why use low-fat yogurt? Regular (made with ½ and ½ is better, better for

> you, tastes better, and has less lactose to begin with.

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> n

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> From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf

> Of spookyhurst

> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:35 AM

> To: BTVC-SCD

> Subject: Article: Dripping yogurt reduces calcium

>

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>

> My mom just showed me an article from L. Katz, MD. He says, " if you

> strain low-fat yogurt for several hours using cheesecloth or a dish towel,

> about half of the calcium will go down the drain. " I thought this might be

> of interest to some people that they are not necessarily getting as much

> calcium as they think they are.

>

> I know that people say there is a lot of liquid in goat yogurt, just like

> there is in low fat cow yogurt. I would assume that dripping it would reduce

> the calcium significantly as well?

>

> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Personally, I eat whole and half & half cow yogurt. However, I know a lot of

people eat goat yogurt, and there is a significant amount of liquid that drips

out of it. If tossing the liquid from cow yogurt (although the article didn't

actually mention what the source of the yogurt was, I'm assuming it was probably

cow) loses a lot of the calcium, it would stand to reason that the same could

apply to goat yogurt.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> But why use low-fat yogurt? Regular (made with ½ and ½ is better, better for

> you, tastes better, and has less lactose to begin with.

>

>

>

> n

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>

>

> From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf

> Of spookyhurst

> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:35 AM

> To: BTVC-SCD

> Subject: Article: Dripping yogurt reduces calcium

>

>

>

>

>

> My mom just showed me an article from L. Katz, MD. He says, " if you

> strain low-fat yogurt for several hours using cheesecloth or a dish towel,

> about half of the calcium will go down the drain. " I thought this might be

> of interest to some people that they are not necessarily getting as much

> calcium as they think they are.

>

> I know that people say there is a lot of liquid in goat yogurt, just like

> there is in low fat cow yogurt. I would assume that dripping it would reduce

> the calcium significantly as well?

>

> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

>

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[Guest guest]

I wish I could munch on raw bones.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

At 03:36 PM 8/21/2009, you wrote:

I wish I could munch on raw

bones.

Well, I wouldn't recommend poultry, but there's always beef bones....

think of it as steak tartar a la bones, or something....

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

At 03:36 PM 8/21/2009, you wrote:

I wish I could munch on raw

bones.

Well, I wouldn't recommend poultry, but there's always beef bones....

think of it as steak tartar a la bones, or something....

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

At 03:36 PM 8/21/2009, you wrote:

I wish I could munch on raw

bones.

Well, I wouldn't recommend poultry, but there's always beef bones....

think of it as steak tartar a la bones, or something....

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund