Re: Half and Half Ingredients

[Guest guest]

> I can only find half and half that contains Sodium Citrate and Disodium > Phosphate. Neither is on the legal/illegal list. I can't even find heavy > cream without gums (so much for my Whole Foods!)Is this ok to ferment > into yogurt?> Thanks,> Kim>I'm amazed by this (especially re: Whole Foods), as the grocery stores in my area (western NY) all carry "real" 1/2 and 1/2. And I'm even more astonished about the heavy cream. Where do you live? Can you get milk (with the cream content) from a farm? Have you ever talked to the managers of any of the stores in which you've looked for "real" milk and cream? Surely there are other people who don't like their milk and cream doctored in that manner. I would think Whole Food, particularly, would be open to changing their ways in this regard. n-- I blog at www.ReformedRevelry.wordpress.com

[Guest guest]

> I can only find half and half that contains Sodium Citrate and Disodium > Phosphate. Neither is on the legal/illegal list. I can't even find heavy > cream without gums (so much for my Whole Foods!)Is this ok to ferment > into yogurt?> Thanks,> Kim>I'm amazed by this (especially re: Whole Foods), as the grocery stores in my area (western NY) all carry "real" 1/2 and 1/2. And I'm even more astonished about the heavy cream. Where do you live? Can you get milk (with the cream content) from a farm? Have you ever talked to the managers of any of the stores in which you've looked for "real" milk and cream? Surely there are other people who don't like their milk and cream doctored in that manner. I would think Whole Food, particularly, would be open to changing their ways in this regard. n-- I blog at www.ReformedRevelry.wordpress.com

[Guest guest]

> I can only find half and half that contains Sodium Citrate and Disodium > Phosphate. Neither is on the legal/illegal list. I can't even find heavy > cream without gums (so much for my Whole Foods!)Is this ok to ferment > into yogurt?> Thanks,> Kim>I'm amazed by this (especially re: Whole Foods), as the grocery stores in my area (western NY) all carry "real" 1/2 and 1/2. And I'm even more astonished about the heavy cream. Where do you live? Can you get milk (with the cream content) from a farm? Have you ever talked to the managers of any of the stores in which you've looked for "real" milk and cream? Surely there are other people who don't like their milk and cream doctored in that manner. I would think Whole Food, particularly, would be open to changing their ways in this regard. n-- I blog at www.ReformedRevelry.wordpress.com

[Guest guest]

The Whole Foods brand doesn't have additives, IIRC.

Mara

> I can only find half and half that contains Sodium Citrate and

> Disodium Phosphate. Neither is on the legal/illegal list. I can't

> even find heavy cream without gums (so much for my Whole Foods!)Is

> this ok to ferment into yogurt?

> Thanks,

> Kim

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[Guest guest]

The Whole Foods brand doesn't have additives, IIRC.

Mara

> I can only find half and half that contains Sodium Citrate and

> Disodium Phosphate. Neither is on the legal/illegal list. I can't

> even find heavy cream without gums (so much for my Whole Foods!)Is

> this ok to ferment into yogurt?

> Thanks,

> Kim

>

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[Guest guest]

The Whole Foods brand doesn't have additives, IIRC.Neither does organic valley. You could see if they would order that for you. Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds =)

[Guest guest]

The Whole Foods brand doesn't have additives, IIRC.Neither does organic valley. You could see if they would order that for you. Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds =)

[Guest guest]

My Whole Foods carries one brand of heavy cream without additives. It is from

Country Dairy. But maybe that's a local product.

, mom to

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> I can only find half and half that contains Sodium Citrate and Disodium

Phosphate. Neither is on the legal/illegal list. I can't even find heavy cream

without gums (so much for my Whole Foods!)Is this ok to ferment into yogurt?

> Thanks,

> Kim

>

[Guest guest]

My Whole Foods carries one brand of heavy cream without additives. It is from

Country Dairy. But maybe that's a local product.

, mom to

>

> I can only find half and half that contains Sodium Citrate and Disodium

Phosphate. Neither is on the legal/illegal list. I can't even find heavy cream

without gums (so much for my Whole Foods!)Is this ok to ferment into yogurt?

> Thanks,

> Kim

>

[Guest guest]

My Whole Foods carries one brand of heavy cream without additives. It is from

Country Dairy. But maybe that's a local product.

, mom to

>

> I can only find half and half that contains Sodium Citrate and Disodium

Phosphate. Neither is on the legal/illegal list. I can't even find heavy cream

without gums (so much for my Whole Foods!)Is this ok to ferment into yogurt?

> Thanks,

> Kim

>

[Guest guest]

n,

I am too, as I am an avid label reader, and consider myself an educated consumer

whos peaks regularly with store managers. I live in suburban NJ/NYC suburbs.

Farms near me are west and south more than 1.5 - 2 hours away. You'd have to

know a bit about the culture here -like anywhere else, but in the recession

economy, it truly is survival of the fittest.

The WF does carry a pure product, as does our Trader Joe's but, sales are down.

These products as you know do not contain preservatives and fillers expire

quickly; they have not been selling well. So the stores have stores have moved

to less expensive products (read longer shelf life/higher profit margin

products) that contain more fillers and questionable items. It truly is amazing

about the trickle-down effect of the recession here.

I found a raw milk delivery co-op (illegal to buy raw milk in NJ)and plan to

sign up for it, but before I commit to the pasture fed meats and heavy

cream/half/half, I just want to try a small batch first to see if I like it/need

it.

Hence my dilemma about what I could find " locally. " Frustrating.

Kim

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> > I can only find half and half that contains Sodium Citrate and Disodium

> > Phosphate. Neither is on the legal/illegal list. I can't even find heavy

> > cream without gums (so much for my Whole Foods!)Is this ok to ferment

> > into yogurt?

> > Thanks,

> > Kim

> >

>

> I'm amazed by this (especially re: Whole Foods), as the grocery stores in

> my area (western NY) all carry " real " 1/2 and 1/2. And I'm even more

> astonished about the heavy cream. Where do you live? Can you get milk

> (with the cream content) from a farm? Have you ever talked to the managers

> of any of the stores in which you've looked for " real " milk and cream?

> Surely there are other people who don't like their milk and cream doctored

> in that manner. I would think Whole Food, particularly, would be open to

> changing their ways in this regard.

>

> n

>

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> I blog at www.ReformedRevelry.wordpress.com

>

[Guest guest]

Intersting Mara; I did not see it/perhaps out of stock. . .

Both WF and TJ's used to carry Garelick Farms brand, and this is the brand that

I referenced earlier that they stopped carrying because fothe short shelf life.

Kim

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> The Whole Foods brand doesn't have additives, IIRC.

>

[Guest guest]

Intersting Mara; I did not see it/perhaps out of stock. . .

Both WF and TJ's used to carry Garelick Farms brand, and this is the brand that

I referenced earlier that they stopped carrying because fothe short shelf life.

Kim

>

> The Whole Foods brand doesn't have additives, IIRC.

>

[Guest guest]

Intersting Mara; I did not see it/perhaps out of stock. . .

Both WF and TJ's used to carry Garelick Farms brand, and this is the brand that

I referenced earlier that they stopped carrying because fothe short shelf life.

Kim

>

> The Whole Foods brand doesn't have additives, IIRC.

>

[Guest guest]

> Intersting Mara; I did not see it/perhaps out of stock. . .

>

> Both WF and TJ's used to carry Garelick Farms brand, and this is the

> brand that I referenced earlier that they stopped carrying because

> fothe short shelf life.

For WFs, it depends on the branch - I guess the manager of each

department makes some of those decisions.

For TJs, I was told, all NorthEast stores get the same goods,

it's a regional thing. And I know my TJs carries one, if not

two half and halfs that are okay. One is ultra pasteurized,

the other not. As well as cream.

Kim, I believe you recently mentioned you were using

blanched almonds in almond milk and that it made the

almond milk creamier? I was wondering where you

were purchasing those almonds, and at what price, if

they made the almond milk significantly more

expensive.

TIA,

Mara

[Guest guest]

> Intersting Mara; I did not see it/perhaps out of stock. . .

>

> Both WF and TJ's used to carry Garelick Farms brand, and this is the

> brand that I referenced earlier that they stopped carrying because

> fothe short shelf life.

For WFs, it depends on the branch - I guess the manager of each

department makes some of those decisions.

For TJs, I was told, all NorthEast stores get the same goods,

it's a regional thing. And I know my TJs carries one, if not

two half and halfs that are okay. One is ultra pasteurized,

the other not. As well as cream.

Kim, I believe you recently mentioned you were using

blanched almonds in almond milk and that it made the

almond milk creamier? I was wondering where you

were purchasing those almonds, and at what price, if

they made the almond milk significantly more

expensive.

TIA,

Mara

[Guest guest]

> Intersting Mara; I did not see it/perhaps out of stock. . .

>

> Both WF and TJ's used to carry Garelick Farms brand, and this is the

> brand that I referenced earlier that they stopped carrying because

> fothe short shelf life.

For WFs, it depends on the branch - I guess the manager of each

department makes some of those decisions.

For TJs, I was told, all NorthEast stores get the same goods,

it's a regional thing. And I know my TJs carries one, if not

two half and halfs that are okay. One is ultra pasteurized,

the other not. As well as cream.

Kim, I believe you recently mentioned you were using

blanched almonds in almond milk and that it made the

almond milk creamier? I was wondering where you

were purchasing those almonds, and at what price, if

they made the almond milk significantly more

expensive.

TIA,

Mara