Re: Anyone else on Raw SCD?

[Guest guest]

That sounds very interesting, how do you do raw? Please tell me not meats. Do you do a lot of juicing or what?

Ann,

Living in Italy

Undiagnosed Crohn's since 1977 Diagnosed 15 years

Sacroiliitis 25 years

Rheumatoid arthritis 25 years

Pyoderma Gangronosum 2 years

SCD since July, 2008

Meds: None

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:52:12 PMSubject: Anyone else on Raw SCD?

[Guest guest]

I was just curious as to whether anyone else eats raw SCD.I want to be able to!!!! Or at least mostly raw. But I guess I'm part way there by just being on SCD because all foods that are legal on the raw diet are legal on SCD, and no foods that are illegal on SCD are legal on the raw diet, right? Unless maple syrup or agave could be raw... Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)2.5 mg Prednisone 1x daily ugh

[Guest guest]

That sounds very interesting, how do you do raw? Please tell me not meats. Do you do a lot of juicing or what? Lol as far as I know, no meats or eggs or whatnot. From the research I've done, it's just basically fruits and veggies with moderate amounts of raw nuts, and that's pretty much it. So basically you could only do it VERY FAR into the diet, when you have no more symptoms or anything. Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)2.5 mg Prednisone 1x daily ugh

[Guest guest]

Thanks Alyssa, I can eat anything raw, no problem, one year and one month in -Yay!! But what about protien? I can't give up meat and I couldn't live on prociutto. Wouldn't you become very weak without protien? Nuts aren't enough, you have to mix them with beans and those are cooked. I don't get it.

Ann,

Living in Italy

Undiagnosed Crohn's since 1977 Diagnosed 15 years

Sacroiliitis 25 years

Rheumatoid arthritis 25 years

Pyoderma Gangronosum 2 years

SCD since July, 2008

Meds: None

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:02:29 PMSubject: Re: Anyone else on Raw SCD?

That sounds very interesting, how do you do raw? Please tell me not meats. Do you do a lot of juicing or what?

Lol as far as I know, no meats or eggs or whatnot. From the research I've done, it's just basically fruits and veggies with moderate amounts of raw nuts, and that's pretty much it. So basically you could only do it VERY FAR into the diet, when you have no more symptoms or anything.

Pour Dieu, pour terre,

Alyssa 15

UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008

SCD June 2009 (restarted)

2.5 mg Prednisone 1x daily ugh

[Guest guest]

Thanks Alyssa, I can eat anything raw, no problem, one year and one month in -Yay!! But what about protien? I can't give up meat and I couldn't live on prociutto. Wouldn't you become very weak without protien? Nuts aren't enough, you have to mix them with beans and those are cooked. I don't get it.

Ann,

Living in Italy

Undiagnosed Crohn's since 1977 Diagnosed 15 years

Sacroiliitis 25 years

Rheumatoid arthritis 25 years

Pyoderma Gangronosum 2 years

SCD since July, 2008

Meds: None

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:02:29 PMSubject: Re: Anyone else on Raw SCD?

That sounds very interesting, how do you do raw? Please tell me not meats. Do you do a lot of juicing or what?

Lol as far as I know, no meats or eggs or whatnot. From the research I've done, it's just basically fruits and veggies with moderate amounts of raw nuts, and that's pretty much it. So basically you could only do it VERY FAR into the diet, when you have no more symptoms or anything.

Pour Dieu, pour terre,

Alyssa 15

UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008

SCD June 2009 (restarted)

2.5 mg Prednisone 1x daily ugh

[Guest guest]

Thanks Alyssa, I can eat anything raw, no problem, one year and one month in -Yay!! But what about protien? I can't give up meat and I couldn't live on prociutto. Wouldn't you become very weak without protien? Nuts aren't enough, you have to mix them with beans and those are cooked. I don't get it.

Ann,

Living in Italy

Undiagnosed Crohn's since 1977 Diagnosed 15 years

Sacroiliitis 25 years

Rheumatoid arthritis 25 years

Pyoderma Gangronosum 2 years

SCD since July, 2008

Meds: None

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:02:29 PMSubject: Re: Anyone else on Raw SCD?

That sounds very interesting, how do you do raw? Please tell me not meats. Do you do a lot of juicing or what?

Lol as far as I know, no meats or eggs or whatnot. From the research I've done, it's just basically fruits and veggies with moderate amounts of raw nuts, and that's pretty much it. So basically you could only do it VERY FAR into the diet, when you have no more symptoms or anything.

Pour Dieu, pour terre,

Alyssa 15

UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008

SCD June 2009 (restarted)

2.5 mg Prednisone 1x daily ugh

[Guest guest]

---- Original message ----

>Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:08:28 -0700 (PDT)

>

>Subject: Re: Anyone else on Raw SCD?

>To: BTVC-SCD

>

> Thanks Alyssa, I can eat anything raw, no problem,

> one year and one month in -Yay!! But what about

> protien? I can't give up meat and I couldn't live

> on prociutto.

LOL -- I had some fantasies once about

being able to live on carpaccio.

Beef carpaccio, tuna carpaccio, yum!!

And sashimi.

Mara

[Guest guest]

---- Original message ----

>Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:08:28 -0700 (PDT)

>

>Subject: Re: Anyone else on Raw SCD?

>To: BTVC-SCD

>

> Thanks Alyssa, I can eat anything raw, no problem,

> one year and one month in -Yay!! But what about

> protien? I can't give up meat and I couldn't live

> on prociutto.

LOL -- I had some fantasies once about

being able to live on carpaccio.

Beef carpaccio, tuna carpaccio, yum!!

And sashimi.

Mara

[Guest guest]

---- Original message ----

>Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:08:28 -0700 (PDT)

>

>Subject: Re: Anyone else on Raw SCD?

>To: BTVC-SCD

>

> Thanks Alyssa, I can eat anything raw, no problem,

> one year and one month in -Yay!! But what about

> protien? I can't give up meat and I couldn't live

> on prociutto.

LOL -- I had some fantasies once about

being able to live on carpaccio.

Beef carpaccio, tuna carpaccio, yum!!

And sashimi.

Mara

[Guest guest]

Hey Alyssa..

Depends on which school of thought within the raw food community that one

subscribes to.

Some of them believe in eating raw meats, eggs etc.

Some take it as far as opposing putting meats in an acidilated bath like what is

done with sashimi etc as the puritans feel that is " cooking " .

Also some raw foodists do in fact eat certain grains. They sprout it sometimes

then dehydrate it not over 114? or 118 degrees.

There are some raw foodists that are super healthy but as with anything it has

to be balanced and IMO most people that implement these things are not doing it

in a balanced way.

I would love to work up to being on SCD and raw heavy.

That'll be the day. But I don't think I will ever be able to be nut or fruit

heavy so there we go with that one.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Hey Alyssa..

Depends on which school of thought within the raw food community that one

subscribes to.

Some of them believe in eating raw meats, eggs etc.

Some take it as far as opposing putting meats in an acidilated bath like what is

done with sashimi etc as the puritans feel that is " cooking " .

Also some raw foodists do in fact eat certain grains. They sprout it sometimes

then dehydrate it not over 114? or 118 degrees.

There are some raw foodists that are super healthy but as with anything it has

to be balanced and IMO most people that implement these things are not doing it

in a balanced way.

I would love to work up to being on SCD and raw heavy.

That'll be the day. But I don't think I will ever be able to be nut or fruit

heavy so there we go with that one.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Hey Alyssa..

Depends on which school of thought within the raw food community that one

subscribes to.

Some of them believe in eating raw meats, eggs etc.

Some take it as far as opposing putting meats in an acidilated bath like what is

done with sashimi etc as the puritans feel that is " cooking " .

Also some raw foodists do in fact eat certain grains. They sprout it sometimes

then dehydrate it not over 114? or 118 degrees.

There are some raw foodists that are super healthy but as with anything it has

to be balanced and IMO most people that implement these things are not doing it

in a balanced way.

I would love to work up to being on SCD and raw heavy.

That'll be the day. But I don't think I will ever be able to be nut or fruit

heavy so there we go with that one.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Ann,

They sprout many things including grains and beans. Very healthy that is if one

has a healthy gut to tolerate it.

Back in the day I used to eat real " sprouted " bread (not the Ezikiel stuff)

closer to what they refer to as " Essene Bread " although Mara taught me this is

an incorrect term. Anyway though.. this is what it is known as in many circles.

It is really delicious and sweet.

But it weighed on my gut terribly.

They also ferment nuts to make nut cheese.

Very creative group of people.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Ann,

They sprout many things including grains and beans. Very healthy that is if one

has a healthy gut to tolerate it.

Back in the day I used to eat real " sprouted " bread (not the Ezikiel stuff)

closer to what they refer to as " Essene Bread " although Mara taught me this is

an incorrect term. Anyway though.. this is what it is known as in many circles.

It is really delicious and sweet.

But it weighed on my gut terribly.

They also ferment nuts to make nut cheese.

Very creative group of people.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Ann,

They sprout many things including grains and beans. Very healthy that is if one

has a healthy gut to tolerate it.

Back in the day I used to eat real " sprouted " bread (not the Ezikiel stuff)

closer to what they refer to as " Essene Bread " although Mara taught me this is

an incorrect term. Anyway though.. this is what it is known as in many circles.

It is really delicious and sweet.

But it weighed on my gut terribly.

They also ferment nuts to make nut cheese.

Very creative group of people.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Alyssa..

Maple cannot be raw.

Many raw products contain Maple for the flavor but aren't truly %100 raw.

Not sure about agave but agave is wildly unhealthy as many of the manufacturing

processes basically mimic that of high fructose corn syrup.

So sad.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Alyssa..

Maple cannot be raw.

Many raw products contain Maple for the flavor but aren't truly %100 raw.

Not sure about agave but agave is wildly unhealthy as many of the manufacturing

processes basically mimic that of high fructose corn syrup.

So sad.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Alyssa..

Maple cannot be raw.

Many raw products contain Maple for the flavor but aren't truly %100 raw.

Not sure about agave but agave is wildly unhealthy as many of the manufacturing

processes basically mimic that of high fructose corn syrup.

So sad.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann,

Luckily?? I was already a kind of fisheterian (vegetables, fruit, dairy and

fish) as a result of having trouble digesting meat dishes --maybe because of the

thorough cooking required, who knows?

I am not eating raw for the taste, believe me. ;-) I am eating raw because I

cannot secrete enough pancreatic enzymes to process food, thin my body's mucous

and keep my vitals going.

So here is how I have been eating for the past month. I feel alive again, which

is a real plus for me.

Nuts I soak until they lose their enzyme inhibitors, then dehydrate and use for

thickeners or raw *bread*, consisting of dried fruits and nuts, chopped fine and

pressed together and then dehydrated.

Fruits I eat fresh or sun-dried or dehydrated at home.

I use raw fermented milk and aged raw cheese.

I pre-digest wild-caught fish such as tuna, haddock and salmon and pre-digest

them in lemon juice or vinegar.

Not as tasty as those lovely nut breads I was baking on the regular SCD program.

I just thought I might run across someone else who might give me pointers on

sources for things or *recipes* for uncooked things. Folks on the raw food

email lists are eating wheat, corn and all kinds of things that give me a lot of

pain.

Ann

>

> That sounds very interesting, how do you do raw?  Please tell me not meats. 

Do you do a lot of juicing or what? 

>  

> Ann,

> Living in Italy

> Undiagnosed Crohn's since 1977   Diagnosed 15 years

> Sacroiliitis 25 years

> Rheumatoid arthritis 25 years

> Pyoderma Gangronosum 2 years

> SCD since July, 2008

> Meds: None

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: ann_garner

> To: BTVC-SCD

> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:52:12 PM

> Subject: Anyone else on Raw SCD?

>

>  

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Alyssa,

Actually, on the raw diet email lists that I tried, they were eating all kinds

of sprouted wheat, corn and stuff that we cannot eat. That is why I found my

way here.

Ann

>

> > I was just curious as to whether anyone else eats raw SCD.

>

>

> I want to be able to!!!! Or at least mostly raw. But I guess I'm part

> way there by just being on SCD because all foods that are legal on the

> raw diet are legal on SCD, and no foods that are illegal on SCD are

> legal on the raw diet, right? Unless maple syrup or agave could be

> raw...

>

> Pour Dieu, pour terre,

> Alyssa 15

> UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> 2.5 mg Prednisone 1x daily ugh

>

[Guest guest]

You lost me at the pre-digested fish, but I'm glad your doing better :-)

Ann,

Living in Italy

Undiagnosed Crohn's since 1977 Diagnosed 15 years

Sacroiliitis 25 years

Rheumatoid arthritis 25 years

Pyoderma Gangronosum 2 years

SCD since July, 2008

Meds: None

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 12:11:34 AMSubject: Re: Anyone else on Raw SCD?

Hi Ann,Luckily?? I was already a kind of fisheterian (vegetables, fruit, dairy and fish) as a result of having trouble digesting meat dishes --maybe because of the thorough cooking required, who knows? I am not eating raw for the taste, believe me. ;-) I am eating raw because I cannot secrete enough pancreatic enzymes to process food, thin my body's mucous and keep my vitals going. So here is how I have been eating for the past month. I feel alive again, which is a real plus for me. Nuts I soak until they lose their enzyme inhibitors, then dehydrate and use for thickeners or raw *bread*, consisting of dried fruits and nuts, chopped fine and pressed together and then dehydrated. Fruits I eat fresh or sun-dried or dehydrated at home. I use raw fermented milk and aged raw cheese.I pre-digest wild-caught fish such as tuna, haddock and salmon and pre-digest them in lemon juice or vinegar. Not as

tasty as those lovely nut breads I was baking on the regular SCD program. I just thought I might run across someone else who might give me pointers on sources for things or *recipes* for uncooked things. Folks on the raw food email lists are eating wheat, corn and all kinds of things that give me a lot of pain.Ann>> That sounds very interesting, how do you do raw? Please tell me not meats. Do you do a lot of juicing or what? > > Ann, > Living in Italy> Undiagnosed Crohn's since 1977 Diagnosed 15 years> Sacroiliitis 25 years> Rheumatoid arthritis 25 years> Pyoderma Gangronosum 2 years> SCD since July, 2008> Meds: None>

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: ann_garner <ann_garner@ ...>> To: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:52:12 PM> Subject: Anyone else on Raw SCD?> > >

[Guest guest]

You lost me at the pre-digested fish, but I'm glad your doing better :-)

Ann,

Living in Italy

Undiagnosed Crohn's since 1977 Diagnosed 15 years

Sacroiliitis 25 years

Rheumatoid arthritis 25 years

Pyoderma Gangronosum 2 years

SCD since July, 2008

Meds: None

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 12:11:34 AMSubject: Re: Anyone else on Raw SCD?

Hi Ann,Luckily?? I was already a kind of fisheterian (vegetables, fruit, dairy and fish) as a result of having trouble digesting meat dishes --maybe because of the thorough cooking required, who knows? I am not eating raw for the taste, believe me. ;-) I am eating raw because I cannot secrete enough pancreatic enzymes to process food, thin my body's mucous and keep my vitals going. So here is how I have been eating for the past month. I feel alive again, which is a real plus for me. Nuts I soak until they lose their enzyme inhibitors, then dehydrate and use for thickeners or raw *bread*, consisting of dried fruits and nuts, chopped fine and pressed together and then dehydrated. Fruits I eat fresh or sun-dried or dehydrated at home. I use raw fermented milk and aged raw cheese.I pre-digest wild-caught fish such as tuna, haddock and salmon and pre-digest them in lemon juice or vinegar. Not as

tasty as those lovely nut breads I was baking on the regular SCD program. I just thought I might run across someone else who might give me pointers on sources for things or *recipes* for uncooked things. Folks on the raw food email lists are eating wheat, corn and all kinds of things that give me a lot of pain.Ann>> That sounds very interesting, how do you do raw? Please tell me not meats. Do you do a lot of juicing or what? > > Ann, > Living in Italy> Undiagnosed Crohn's since 1977 Diagnosed 15 years> Sacroiliitis 25 years> Rheumatoid arthritis 25 years> Pyoderma Gangronosum 2 years> SCD since July, 2008> Meds: None>

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: ann_garner <ann_garner@ ...>> To: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:52:12 PM> Subject: Anyone else on Raw SCD?> > >

[Guest guest]

You lost me at the pre-digested fish, but I'm glad your doing better :-)

Ann,

Living in Italy

Undiagnosed Crohn's since 1977 Diagnosed 15 years

Sacroiliitis 25 years

Rheumatoid arthritis 25 years

Pyoderma Gangronosum 2 years

SCD since July, 2008

Meds: None

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 12:11:34 AMSubject: Re: Anyone else on Raw SCD?

Hi Ann,Luckily?? I was already a kind of fisheterian (vegetables, fruit, dairy and fish) as a result of having trouble digesting meat dishes --maybe because of the thorough cooking required, who knows? I am not eating raw for the taste, believe me. ;-) I am eating raw because I cannot secrete enough pancreatic enzymes to process food, thin my body's mucous and keep my vitals going. So here is how I have been eating for the past month. I feel alive again, which is a real plus for me. Nuts I soak until they lose their enzyme inhibitors, then dehydrate and use for thickeners or raw *bread*, consisting of dried fruits and nuts, chopped fine and pressed together and then dehydrated. Fruits I eat fresh or sun-dried or dehydrated at home. I use raw fermented milk and aged raw cheese.I pre-digest wild-caught fish such as tuna, haddock and salmon and pre-digest them in lemon juice or vinegar. Not as

tasty as those lovely nut breads I was baking on the regular SCD program. I just thought I might run across someone else who might give me pointers on sources for things or *recipes* for uncooked things. Folks on the raw food email lists are eating wheat, corn and all kinds of things that give me a lot of pain.Ann>> That sounds very interesting, how do you do raw? Please tell me not meats. Do you do a lot of juicing or what? > > Ann, > Living in Italy> Undiagnosed Crohn's since 1977 Diagnosed 15 years> Sacroiliitis 25 years> Rheumatoid arthritis 25 years> Pyoderma Gangronosum 2 years> SCD since July, 2008> Meds: None>

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: ann_garner <ann_garner@ ...>> To: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:52:12 PM> Subject: Anyone else on Raw SCD?> > >

[Guest guest]

Jodi,

Very good advice. Until symptoms of ulcerative colitis and the like are under

control, the raw regimen would not be good, I should guess.

I am not a purist or health fadist. So I am open to what will keep me going to

a hundred years!

I was already finding a lot of good protein sources besides the meat and beans,

neither of which agree with me very well at all.

Eggs from a healthy free-range egg farm for an adult who has lived on a farm

most of her life (me) are not so risky. They used to be prescribed to all

pregnant women! Raw aged cheese has not only protein but also its original

calcium, not added back in after the pasteurization. Same thing for the raw

milk from a certified dairy. Aged or fermented they add the rich source of

enzymes that I have to depend on.

I use nuts as a substitute for grains and beans, which I do not use at all.

Ann

>

> Hey Alyssa..

>

> Depends on which school of thought within the raw food community that one

subscribes to.

>

> Some of them believe in eating raw meats, eggs etc.

> Some take it as far as opposing putting meats in an acidilated bath like what

is done with sashimi etc as the puritans feel that is " cooking " .

>

> Also some raw foodists do in fact eat certain grains. They sprout it

sometimes then dehydrate it not over 114? or 118 degrees.

>

> There are some raw foodists that are super healthy but as with anything it has

to be balanced and IMO most people that implement these things are not doing it

in a balanced way.

>

> I would love to work up to being on SCD and raw heavy.

>

> That'll be the day. But I don't think I will ever be able to be nut or fruit

heavy so there we go with that one.

>

> Jodi

>

[Guest guest]

I agree that they are creative! But I know what you mean about the difficulty

with digesting grains and beans. My body just does not have the ability,

neither the sprouted or the cooked kinds.

Ann

>

> Ann,

>

> They sprout many things including grains and beans. Very healthy that is if

one has a healthy gut to tolerate it.

>

> Back in the day I used to eat real " sprouted " bread (not the Ezikiel stuff)

closer to what they refer to as " Essene Bread " although Mara taught me this is

an incorrect term. Anyway though.. this is what it is known as in many circles.

>

> It is really delicious and sweet.

>

> But it weighed on my gut terribly.

>

> They also ferment nuts to make nut cheese.

> Very creative group of people.

>

> Jodi

>